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Yar

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Did the estrogen gel help at all while you were using it? Did you develop any sort of gyno?
Topical estrogen is effective only for those who do not have androgenetic alopecia. To protect hair from the damaging effects of androgens, the hormone estradiol must pass through the liver, stimulating it to produce SHBG (sex hormone-binding globulin); this protein binds the androgen—whether testosterone or DHT—preventing it from interacting with receptors on the scalp.
 

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Topical estrogen is effective only for those who do not have androgenetic alopecia. To protect hair from the damaging effects of androgens, the hormone estradiol must pass through the liver, stimulating it to produce SHBG (sex hormone-binding globulin); this protein binds the androgen—whether testosterone or DHT—preventing it from interacting with receptors on the scalp.
So what do you say that estradiol sublingual or Estrogel or any method that pass the liver doing nothing?
 
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So what do you say that estradiol sublingual or Estrogel doing nothing?
It works for regular Androgenetic Alopecia but for the unlucky few who have DUPA the working theory rn is diffuse alopecia areata (aka alopecia areata incognita) or hyperprolactinemia. worst case scenario is you have those, take estrogen and go from a balding man to a balding woman because DHT was never the cause of your hair loss
 

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Topical estrogen is effective only for those who do not have androgenetic alopecia. To protect hair from the damaging effects of androgens, the hormone estradiol must pass through the liver, stimulating it to produce SHBG (sex hormone-binding globulin); this protein binds the androgen—whether testosterone or DHT—preventing it from interacting with receptors on the scalp.
You said that Estrogel helped you in another posts.
 

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So what do you say that estradiol sublingual or Estrogel or any method that pass the liver doing nothing?
Applying estradiol gel to the skin of the arms, thighs, or buttocks also raises SHBG levels—though over the long term and not as sharply as oral tablets do. However, the scalp is clearly unsuitable for this due to much lower absorption capacity; furthermore, if you apply the gel to the scalp, 99% of it will simply remain on the hair rather than being absorbed into the skin. I see absolutely no point in applying estradiol gel topically to the scalp.
 

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Applying estradiol gel to the skin of the arms, thighs, or buttocks also raises SHBG levels—though over the long term and not as sharply as oral tablets do. However, the scalp is clearly unsuitable for this due to much lower absorption capacity; furthermore, if you apply the gel to the scalp, 99% of it will simply remain on the hair rather than being absorbed into the skin. I see absolutely no point in applying estradiol gel topically to the scalp.
That right but in another place like arms,
How it work without pass the liver like you said?
 

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That right but in another place like arms,
How it work without pass the liver like you said?
Applying estradiol gel to the skin of the hands, thighs, or buttocks affects the liver, but only over the long term; oral tablets, on the other hand, have an effect from the very first dose.
 

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It works for regular Androgenetic Alopecia but for the unlucky few who have DUPA the working theory rn is diffuse alopecia areata (aka alopecia areata incognita) or hyperprolactinemia. worst case scenario is you have those, take estrogen and go from a balding man to a balding woman because DHT was never the cause of your hair loss
Absolutely all androgens are harmful to hair—and it’s not just DHT. Using 1–2 mg of estradiol gel won’t cause a man to turn into a woman; these aren't the dosages that trigger a physical transition from male to female. There will certainly be some minimal rejuvenating and feminizing effects, but a 30-to-40-year-old man’s appearance will remain masculine. There might be some slight breast development or nipple swelling, but the overall look will stay male, even with long-term use of 1–2 mg of estradiol gel! Scalp hair will also grow back, and receding hairlines will fill in!
 

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Absolutely all androgens are harmful to hair—and it’s not just DHT. Using 1–2 mg of estradiol gel won’t cause a man to turn into a woman; these aren't the dosages that trigger a physical transition from male to female. There will certainly be some minimal rejuvenating and feminizing effects, but a 30-to-40-year-old man’s appearance will remain masculine. There might be some slight breast development or nipple swelling, but the overall look will stay male, even with long-term use of 1–2 mg of estradiol gel! Scalp hair will also grow back, and receding hairlines will fill in!
So what are you suggest?
Estradiol Gel/sublingual or oral?

By the way, SHBG binds estrogen too.
 

Yar

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So what are you suggest?
Estradiol Gel/sublingual or oral?

By the way, SHBG binds estrogen too.
Yes, absolutely right, but it binds last of all—when there is neither testosterone nor DHT left in the blood. This is a natural mechanism for limiting androgenic effects.
 

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Do you apply ru once or twice a day?
once at night, i use the mane regain brand with the dropper and just rub 1ml on my crown. Its been about 2 weeks and ngl its making so visible difference. ill lyk if anything changes tho soon im also gonna hop on Tofacitinib and estradiol gel on the scalp, and im also gonna get my prolactin levels checked see if i should take cabergoline too
 

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once at night, i use the mane regain brand with the dropper and just rub 1ml on my crown. Its been about 2 weeks and ngl its making so visible difference. ill lyk if anything changes tho soon im also gonna hop on Tofacitinib and estradiol gel on the scalp, and im also gonna get my prolactin levels checked see if i should take cabergoline too
How much time do you take RU?
 

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Applied where, how many pumps (i ordered 0.06%) and how long should I let it sit? I already use topical RU58841 for my scalp
Generally, it should be applied to the inner arms, thighs (areas with a significant subcutaneous fat layer), and buttocks. Apply a thin layer covering an area the size of one palm; one pump equals the area of one palm. I cannot answer questions regarding its use on the scalp. As for dosage, if applying to the recommended areas, I would suggest one pump daily for the first week, then increasing to two pumps starting the second week. If applying to the scalp, use one pump; do not rub it in until dry—simply apply a thin layer. I recommend using the estradiol gel in the morning after waking up.
 
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