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[IBM]

Hi.

So far i'm getting good results with oral spironolactone. I let grow out my hair a bit and i feeling a little atractive again. So i need to maintain my hair in order to maintain my integrity. I still think of her.

I saw on the supermarket soy isoflavonoids suplements. It's packets with powder inside so we put in a glass with water and take it. Its say on the box that it is designed for women.

I'm thinking in taking it with green tea. But what tea i've to use? Its good idea to take it? What are the effects?

 

[Nathaniel]

Hi.

So far i'm getting good results with oral spironolactone. I let grow out my hair a bit and i feeling a little atractive again. So i need to maintain my hair in order to maintain my integrity. I still think of her.

IBM, I'm not going to criticize your attempts to keep your hair because I have also been greatly affected by this (hairloss) but you do realize that if you like women and these women that you like are heterosexual, its very highly probable that they want a man, not a woman by their side.

I have no idea what that tea does, but judging from what you've been asking lately and what the badge claims ---"only for women"--- I wouldn't be surprised if it was some estrogen raising tea. You are already taking oral spironolactone...so whats up? Do you want to stop being a man?

 

[hairsucks]

Exactly, can't you jsut get a hair transplant if your that bothered?

 

[RaginDemon]

Its who you are that attracts woman.

A woman likes a man thats confident and passionate. Even you are losing your hair, you will still attract a lot of woman with flattery, generousity, and integrity.

 

[youngbaldie]

Its who you are that attracts woman.

A woman likes a man thats confident and passionate. Even you are losing your hair, you will still attract a lot of woman with flattery, generousity, and integrity.

I tend to agree thats true in a lot of cases of guys that are balding. Usually all most balding guys need is to pull themselves up by their boot straps, and then their inner qualities will adequately compensate. But sometimes women can tell if a balding guy is trying obtain these qualities, which he naturally does not have, in order to make up for his physical flaws. They perceive this as being fake, which makes you appear insecure.

I mean, if you are normally shy and balding, women will be able to tell right away if you have a sudden new personality you have chosen to adopt. Even if they meet you for the first time, they can immediately perceive whether you are putting on a show, or are being yourself (quiet, shy, etc.). I may be giving the opposite sex too much power, but I have seen this happen to guys, including myself when I was younger. They really have this sixth sense that I can't explain. Women are extremely perceptive.

Also, we should keep in mind that some guys look handsome, or at least usually average, even with their balding. Others aren't so lucky. It won't matter how much confidence they naturally had or try to gain, most women don't go for guys they perceive as looking 'scary' or 'weird'. Its just how it is. Advances put out by these guys will be seen as 'creepy'. I am not saying its impossible to get a girl even with this stacked against you, but lets be practical. Your chances go down a lot, and that is tough on some guys.

Lets be real with ourselves here too in this area. We are no different than women when it comes to selecting a partner. Would we really want to date a woman that we found physically repulsive? I don't mean to sound shallow or cruel, but the fact is, deep down inside, I will be honest. I am attracted sexually to only women that are hot. This is true of all guys. It doesn't mean that I will persecute girls who are not attractive. Just the opposite. Sure, unattractive women may make nice friends, but would you really want to have sexual relations with them?

Now lets put ourselves in the women's shoes. They feel the same way. It doesn't make them shallow. Its perfectly natural to go for the average looking guy over the guy who looks like frankenstein. If the woman is kind, she may be nice to the odd looking who works at her office. She may even crack jokes and chat with him at the office, considering him to be her buddy. But if he asked her out on a date, no matter how confident, there is a strong chance she would politely refuse. You can't blame people for not being attracted to someone.


If I am wrong about all of this, somebody please chew me out and set me straight. I would like to be shown the true path, if there is one. Please show me.

And I am not saying that you can never achieve true happiness and peace if you look like a freak by most people's standards. But the chances are, you will not have the same opportunities in life as other guys who look to be what is percieved as 'normal' by the vast majority of women.

Its comparable to poverty vs. wealth. Some poor people in poor countries can achieve happiness, I mean its possible, but what is happiness? Perhaps happiness for a poor person is different than what it would be for someone born into a rich nation, based on materalism and lust. Perhaps their happiness would appear to us as misery if we experienced it?

Imagine if you are poor and hideous looking. This means you have no financial means to 'buy' women in a figurative sense, so you have no hope if you base happiness and contentment soley on being with the opposite sex. In the west, most guys, including myself, have the chance to at least move up the social ladder, if we work hard, and perhaps then it won't matter what we look like once we have money. Its basically prostitution, just not illegal.

I am rambling now, so I will stop. I am just saying I think there is more to life than women, but in the west, this is hard for all of us to realize in such a sexually driven society. And if we base happiness on women, then a lot of guys in our society will feel justifiably cheated. All of the false expectations we have set up for them will come to light. Reality sets in, and thats why a lot of guys on this site are so depressed. And to be honest, I don't think we should blame them. As a society and culture, we send out the message that beautiful women are essential to our existence as men. Then we blame the not so good looking guys for feeling miserable when they realize they don't have the same chances of having a relationship with these women. But there is hope, and I think its important to remember that as well.

 

[s.a.f]

You're dead right. :wink:

 

[mulder]

Its who you are that attracts woman.

A woman likes a man thats confident and passionate. Even you are losing your hair, you will still attract a lot of woman with flattery, generousity, and integrity.

I tend to agree thats true in a lot of cases of guys that are balding. Usually all most balding guys need is to pull themselves up by their boot straps, and then their inner qualities will adequately compensate. But sometimes women can tell if a balding guy is trying obtain these qualities, which he naturally does not have, in order to make up for his physical flaws. They perceive this as being fake, which makes you appear insecure.

I mean, if you are normally shy and balding, women will be able to tell right away if you have a sudden new personality you have chosen to adopt. Even if they meet you for the first time, they can immediately perceive whether you are putting on a show, or are being yourself (quiet, shy, etc.). I may be giving the opposite sex too much power, but I have seen this happen to guys, including myself when I was younger. They really have this sixth sense that I can't explain. Women are extremely perceptive.

Also, we should keep in mind that some guys look handsome, or at least usually average, even with their balding. Others aren't so lucky. It won't matter how much confidence they naturally had or try to gain, most women don't go for guys they perceive as looking 'scary' or 'weird'. Its just how it is. Advances put out by these guys will be seen as 'creepy'. I am not saying its impossible to get a girl even with this stacked against you, but lets be practical. Your chances go down a lot, and that is tough on some guys.

Lets be real with ourselves here too in this area. We are no different than women when it comes to selecting a partner. Would we really want to date a woman that we found physically repulsive? I don't mean to sound shallow or cruel, but the fact is, deep down inside, I will be honest. I am attracted sexually to only women that are hot. This is true of all guys. It doesn't mean that I will persecute girls who are not attractive. Just the opposite. Sure, unattractive women may make nice friends, but would you really want to have sexual relations with them?

Now lets put ourselves in the women's shoes. They feel the same way. It doesn't make them shallow. Its perfectly natural to go for the average looking guy over the guy who looks like frankenstein. If the woman is kind, she may be nice to the odd looking who works at her office. She may even crack jokes and chat with him at the office, considering him to be her buddy. But if he asked her out on a date, no matter how confident, there is a strong chance she would politely refuse. You can't blame people for not being attracted to someone.


If I am wrong about all of this, somebody please chew me out and set me straight. I would like to be shown the true path, if there is one. Please show me.

And I am not saying that you can never achieve true happiness and peace if you look like a freak by most people's standards. But the chances are, you will not have the same opportunities in life as other guys who look to be what is percieved as 'normal' by the vast majority of women.

Its comparable to poverty vs. wealth. Some poor people in poor countries can achieve happiness, I mean its possible, but what is happiness? Perhaps happiness for a poor person is different than what it would be for someone born into a rich nation, based on materalism and lust. Perhaps their happiness would appear to us as misery if we experienced it?

Imagine if you are poor and hideous looking. This means you have no financial means to 'buy' women in a figurative sense, so you have no hope if you base happiness and contentment soley on being with the opposite sex. In the west, most guys, including myself, have the chance to at least move up the social ladder, if we work hard, and perhaps then it won't matter what we look like once we have money. Its basically prostitution, just not illegal.

I am rambling now, so I will stop. I am just saying I think there is more to life than women, but in the west, this is hard for all of us to realize in such a sexually driven society. And if we base happiness on women, then a lot of guys in our society will feel justifiably cheated. All of the false expectations we have set up for them will come to light. Reality sets in, and thats why a lot of guys on this site are so depressed. And to be honest, I don't think we should blame them. As a society and culture, we send out the message that beautiful women are essential to our existence as men. Then we blame the not so good looking guys for feeling miserable when they realize they don't have the same chances of having a relationship with these women. But there is hope, and I think its important to remember that as well.

Not too far off the mark...but I think you underestimate how far personality can go. You make it sound like it's almost impossible for a 'shy guy' to 'pretend' to be confident which I don't think is the case. Also you make it sound like all women have the same tastes which isn't true...there's lots of variety..although women having the 'sheepish' nature that they do tend to behave and think similarly when in groups.
In general I think you're right about 'society' placing too much emphasis on attractiveness and romantic relationships for that matter...there really is much more to life than that but its sometimes hard to see that in a society that dangles sexual and emotional p**rn in your face 24/7. But blaming it on 'society' is something of a cop out ultimately..it's really human nature that we're bitching about here. The reality is most human beings are extremely shallow in many respects and circumstances. ..

 

[mulder]

...Most people aren't always 'shallow' but the vast majority are in certain situations..it's just part of human nature. Personally I think it's healthier to recognize there's a negative side to most people rather than lobotomizing yourself into some kind of acceptance. It's not just 'society', it's not just 'fate', people themselves are nasty. Of course the trick is to recognize that and still be able to appreciate people's positive qualities. It's easier, esp in social situations, to just blame nastiness on something outside of the individual or group- makes everyone feel better, a message that will be much more readily received. But all of it, at least in part, is part of human nature. how's that for rambling? :lol:

 

[youngbaldie]

See thats the thing though. I don't think its necessarily bad to reject a mate because of their looks. Sexual attraction can't really be controlled, its just a part of our nature, in the same sense that sexual orientation is argued to be. Afterall, sexual orientation is simply another term for sexual attraction, only its gender specific.

It certainly wouldn't be considered shallow by our society for a person of a homosexual orienation to flat out reject a potential mate of the opposite sex. Sexual orientation really is an attraction based on looks, in the sense that a partner must have either male or female physical characteristics. What is on the inside is irrelevant here, no matter how nice the other person is.

Now with what we are discussing, I don't see how its much different, at least in principle. Rather than basing attraction soley on physical characteristics based on gender, we are ironically more open to variety, but still naturally specific in our personal attractions and desires.

We all have our preferences, some stronger than others. But its all superficial, whether we are talking about orientation or any other form of sexual attraction or desire. So I guess I would agree with you somewhat, we are all shallow to a certain extent. But I don't think there should be any negative connotation to this word, at least when it is used in the context of sexual desire.

 

[kilgore]

I tend to agree thats true in a lot of cases of guys that are balding. Usually all most balding guys need is to pull themselves up by their boot straps, and then their inner qualities will adequately compensate. But sometimes women can tell if a balding guy is trying obtain these qualities, which he naturally does not have, in order to make up for his physical flaws. They perceive this as being fake, which makes you appear insecure.

I mean, if you are normally shy and balding, women will be able to tell right away if you have a sudden new personality you have chosen to adopt. Even if they meet you for the first time, they can immediately perceive whether you are putting on a show, or are being yourself (quiet, shy, etc.). I may be giving the opposite sex too much power, but I have seen this happen to guys, including myself when I was younger. They really have this sixth sense that I can't explain. Women are extremely perceptive.

Also, we should keep in mind that some guys look handsome, or at least usually average, even with their balding. Others aren't so lucky. It won't matter how much confidence they naturally had or try to gain, most women don't go for guys they perceive as looking 'scary' or 'weird'. Its just how it is. Advances put out by these guys will be seen as 'creepy'. I am not saying its impossible to get a girl even with this stacked against you, but lets be practical. Your chances go down a lot, and that is tough on some guys.

Lets be real with ourselves here too in this area. We are no different than women when it comes to selecting a partner. Would we really want to date a woman that we found physically repulsive? I don't mean to sound shallow or cruel, but the fact is, deep down inside, I will be honest. I am attracted sexually to only women that are hot. This is true of all guys. It doesn't mean that I will persecute girls who are not attractive. Just the opposite. Sure, unattractive women may make nice friends, but would you really want to have sexual relations with them?

Now lets put ourselves in the women's shoes. They feel the same way. It doesn't make them shallow. Its perfectly natural to go for the average looking guy over the guy who looks like frankenstein. If the woman is kind, she may be nice to the odd looking who works at her office. She may even crack jokes and chat with him at the office, considering him to be her buddy. But if he asked her out on a date, no matter how confident, there is a strong chance she would politely refuse. You can't blame people for not being attracted to someone.


If I am wrong about all of this, somebody please chew me out and set me straight. I would like to be shown the true path, if there is one. Please show me.

And I am not saying that you can never achieve true happiness and peace if you look like a freak by most people's standards. But the chances are, you will not have the same opportunities in life as other guys who look to be what is percieved as 'normal' by the vast majority of women.

Its comparable to poverty vs. wealth. Some poor people in poor countries can achieve happiness, I mean its possible, but what is happiness? Perhaps happiness for a poor person is different than what it would be for someone born into a rich nation, based on materalism and lust. Perhaps their happiness would appear to us as misery if we experienced it?

Imagine if you are poor and hideous looking. This means you have no financial means to 'buy' women in a figurative sense, so you have no hope if you base happiness and contentment soley on being with the opposite sex. In the west, most guys, including myself, have the chance to at least move up the social ladder, if we work hard, and perhaps then it won't matter what we look like once we have money. Its basically prostitution, just not illegal.

I am rambling now, so I will stop. I am just saying I think there is more to life than women, but in the west, this is hard for all of us to realize in such a sexually driven society. And if we base happiness on women, then a lot of guys in our society will feel justifiably cheated. All of the false expectations we have set up for them will come to light. Reality sets in, and thats why a lot of guys on this site are so depressed. And to be honest, I don't think we should blame them. As a society and culture, we send out the message that beautiful women are essential to our existence as men. Then we blame the not so good looking guys for feeling miserable when they realize they don't have the same chances of having a relationship with these women. But there is hope, and I think its important to remember that as well.

Where's the hope? Everything you wrote made me feel incredibly depressed and miserable. Probably because it is true, but it just makes me sick to my stomach. I do not think of myself as scary or weird but if women think I look scary or weird because my hair is not that great despite everything I do to improve it, then f*** them, I don't want to go anywhere near them.

 

[s.a.f]

[I do not think of myself as scary or weird but if women think I look scary or weird because my hair is not that great despite everything I do to improve it, then f*** them, I don't want to go anywhere near them.

Yes woman see all balding men as scary :roll: Thats why they run away from you screaming.

 

[youngbaldie]

Where's the hope? Everything you wrote made me feel incredibly depressed and miserable. Probably because it is true, but it just makes me sick to my stomach. I do not think of myself as scary or weird but if women think I look scary or weird because my hair is not that great despite everything I do to improve it, then f*** them, I don't want to go anywhere near them. I will become a monk locked away in a cloister rather than pursuing evil b****s. That is why I love finasteride so much. It takes care of my libido pretty well.

If my post makes you miserable, then I would disregard it. I still believe you or any other person has the power to change things, some just have it harder then others. If you want a girl, there is one out there for you. You just have to find her. Even if you truly look 'abnormal', there will still be some nice girl waiting for you. But most likely, you don't even look that bad at all. So you have to go out there and try. Seriously, I haven't seen your pics, but I bet you look average, like most guys in the world. Which means, you have plenty of opportunities to find a woman.

There is always hope, that is, if you are willing to face possible rejection initially. But thats the hard part.

And I would listen to a lot of what mulder said regarding my post. My first post does make some generalizations about women. Not all women are as narrow minded as I portrayed them. Perhaps I was just projecting my own negative experiences in the past upon everyone else.

Its a fact that MANY girls really don't care about looks as much as guys do. So RaginDemon actually has a point. Its whats on the inside that counts with the vast majority of girls. And yes, personally I have seen some really hot women who are dating or married to not so good looking men, including balding ones. But these men have really great personalities, and thats what a lot of women want. Men care much more about looks than women do. Thats a fact, so we are lucky.

All that I meant by being seen as a 'fake' was that really shy guys shouldn't push themselves too hard, too fast. They should more view it as a growing experience. It IS a good thing to try and work on being more confident, even if you don't have it all in the looks department. Its very positive, and it will only help your chances.

My point was that you shouldn't try to compare yourself to others. Just be yourself, but try to work on things that you think you need improvement in. If you are shy, you are shy. Don't try to adopt a new personality over night. Through more social interaction with the right kind of people, you may slowly come out of your shell, and form a really attractive personality.

And again, there are a lot of guys on here that think they look hideous, but I have seen some of their pics, and its all in their head. They look fine. Such is most likely the case with you. I am not trying to minimize whatever anxiety you have about your situation, but really, you sound like you are being too hard on yourself.

You have to get out there and try, thats where there is hope. If you stay at home and lock yourself in your room and avoid women, you are right there is no hope. Only you can change things. Easier said than done, I know. But please, give it a try. And don't ever quit even in the face of rejection. Just pick yourself up and try again.

And most importantly, you have to be able to get to the point where you can live without women. A lot of women are repelled by guys that come off as 'needy'. You need to be independent and strong, meaning you can face being alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't seek out a partner. But women can sense when a guy is needy. Avoid this at all costs. Even if you look like Brad Pitt, and you come off as insecure and needy, women will run from you like you have the plague. And yes, there are guys out there with perfect hair and perfect looks that fit this profile. And they always fail with girls, its sad, but true.

If you are a Norwood 4, fat, and not so good looking you will have far better chances than these guys. A lot of guys that look like this that have naturally developed confidence score with a lot of women. I have a relative, he is my cousin, in his early 40s. He is a Norwood 3, husky, not great looking. But damn, his wife is one hot blond, around his age. Women really don't give a damn about hair loss when they get into their 30s. So thats another reason for hope. Only teenage girls and college girls are vain, but most grow out of it.

So RaginDemon and Mulder are right.

Again, the only point with my other post was to make sure you don't adopt a new personality over night for the sole purpose of trying to pick up women. That is all I meant. And I made some generalizations there which I will try to correct in the future.

 

[kilgore]

If my post makes you miserable, then I would disregard it. I still believe you or any other person has the power to change things, some just have it harder then others. If you want a girl, there is one out there for you. You just have to find her. Even if you truly look 'abnormal', there will still be some nice girl waiting for you. But most likely, you don't even look that bad at all. So you have to go out there and try. Seriously, I haven't seen your pics, but I bet you look average, like most guys in the world. Which means, you have plenty of opportunities to find a woman.

There is always hope, that is, if you are willing to face possible rejection initially. But thats the hard part.

And I would listen to a lot of what mulder said regarding my post. My first post does make some generalizations about women. Not all women are as narrow minded as I portrayed them. Perhaps I was just projecting my own negative experiences in the past upon everyone else.

Its a fact that MANY girls really don't care about looks as much as guys do. So RaginDemon actually has a point. Its whats on the inside that counts with the vast majority of girls. And yes, personally I have seen some really hot women who are dating or married to not so good looking men, including balding ones. But these men have really great personalities, and thats what a lot of women want. Men care much more about looks than women do. Thats a fact, so we are lucky.

All that I meant by being seen as a 'fake' was that really shy guys shouldn't push themselves too hard, too fast. They should more view it as a growing experience. It IS a good thing to try and work on being more confident, even if you don't have it all in the looks department. Its very positive, and it will only help your chances.

My point was that you shouldn't try to compare yourself to others. Just be yourself, but try to work on things that you think you need improvement in. If you are shy, you are shy. Don't try to adopt a new personality over night. Through more social interaction with the right kind of people, you may slowly come out of your shell, and form a really attractive personality.

And again, there are a lot of guys on here that think they look hideous, but I have seen some of their pics, and its all in their head. They look fine. Such is most likely the case with you. I am not trying to minimize whatever anxiety you have about your situation, but really, you sound like you are being too hard on yourself.

You have to get out there and try, thats where there is hope. If you stay at home and lock yourself in your room and avoid women, you are right there is no hope. Only you can change things. Easier said than done, I know. But please, give it a try. And don't ever quit even in the face of rejection. Just pick yourself up and try again.

And most importantly, you have to be able to get to the point where you can live without women. A lot of women are repelled by guys that come off as 'needy'. You need to be independent and strong, meaning you can face being alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't seek out a partner. But women can sense when a guy is needy. Avoid this at all costs. Even if you look like Brad Pitt, and you come off as insecure and needy, women will run from you like you have the plague. And yes, there are guys out there with perfect hair and perfect looks that fit this profile. And they always fail with girls, its sad, but true.

If you are a Norwood 4, fat, and not so good looking you will have far better chances than these guys. A lot of guys that look like this that have naturally developed confidence score with a lot of women. I have a relative, he is my cousin, in his early 40s. He is a Norwood 3, husky, not great looking. But damn, his wife is one hot blond, around his age. Women really don't give a damn about hair loss when they get into their 30s. So thats another reason for hope. Only teenage girls and college girls are vain, but most grow out of it.

So RaginDemon and Mulder are right.

Again, the only point with my other post was to make sure you don't adopt a new personality over night for the sole purpose of trying to pick up women. That is all I meant. And I made some generalizations there which I will try to correct in the future.

First of all I would like to apologise for writing all that crap I wrote yesterday. I was feeling pretty low at the time. You are a very insightful guy and your views on human nature reflect your keen reasoning because they struck a chord with me. Your post helped me realise that some things are just not meant for me. It doesn't matter how hard I try I cannot go against what destiny has determined for me. It is absolutely futile. But it is alright, I don't care about those things anymore because I have already given up on them. The fact that you decided to change your post just to make me feel better only shows your good nature but please don't do it because we are all much better off when we see things for what they really are and begin accepting them as painful as they may be. I will try to make the most out my pathetic life without women.

 

[mulder]

If my post makes you miserable, then I would disregard it. I still believe you or any other person has the power to change things, some just have it harder then others. If you want a girl, there is one out there for you. You just have to find her. Even if you truly look 'abnormal', there will still be some nice girl waiting for you. But most likely, you don't even look that bad at all. So you have to go out there and try. Seriously, I haven't seen your pics, but I bet you look average, like most guys in the world. Which means, you have plenty of opportunities to find a woman.

There is always hope, that is, if you are willing to face possible rejection initially. But thats the hard part.

And I would listen to a lot of what mulder said regarding my post. My first post does make some generalizations about women. Not all women are as narrow minded as I portrayed them. Perhaps I was just projecting my own negative experiences in the past upon everyone else.

Its a fact that MANY girls really don't care about looks as much as guys do. So RaginDemon actually has a point. Its whats on the inside that counts with the vast majority of girls. And yes, personally I have seen some really hot women who are dating or married to not so good looking men, including balding ones. But these men have really great personalities, and thats what a lot of women want. Men care much more about looks than women do. Thats a fact, so we are lucky.

All that I meant by being seen as a 'fake' was that really shy guys shouldn't push themselves too hard, too fast. They should more view it as a growing experience. It IS a good thing to try and work on being more confident, even if you don't have it all in the looks department. Its very positive, and it will only help your chances.

My point was that you shouldn't try to compare yourself to others. Just be yourself, but try to work on things that you think you need improvement in. If you are shy, you are shy. Don't try to adopt a new personality over night. Through more social interaction with the right kind of people, you may slowly come out of your shell, and form a really attractive personality.

And again, there are a lot of guys on here that think they look hideous, but I have seen some of their pics, and its all in their head. They look fine. Such is most likely the case with you. I am not trying to minimize whatever anxiety you have about your situation, but really, you sound like you are being too hard on yourself.

You have to get out there and try, thats where there is hope. If you stay at home and lock yourself in your room and avoid women, you are right there is no hope. Only you can change things. Easier said than done, I know. But please, give it a try. And don't ever quit even in the face of rejection. Just pick yourself up and try again.

And most importantly, you have to be able to get to the point where you can live without women. A lot of women are repelled by guys that come off as 'needy'. You need to be independent and strong, meaning you can face being alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't seek out a partner. But women can sense when a guy is needy. Avoid this at all costs. Even if you look like Brad Pitt, and you come off as insecure and needy, women will run from you like you have the plague. And yes, there are guys out there with perfect hair and perfect looks that fit this profile. And they always fail with girls, its sad, but true.

If you are a Norwood 4, fat, and not so good looking you will have far better chances than these guys. A lot of guys that look like this that have naturally developed confidence score with a lot of women. I have a relative, he is my cousin, in his early 40s. He is a Norwood 3, husky, not great looking. But damn, his wife is one hot blond, around his age. Women really don't give a damn about hair loss when they get into their 30s. So thats another reason for hope. Only teenage girls and college girls are vain, but most grow out of it.

So RaginDemon and Mulder are right.

Again, the only point with my other post was to make sure you don't adopt a new personality over night for the sole purpose of trying to pick up women. That is all I meant. And I made some generalizations there which I will try to correct in the future.

First of all I would like to apologise for writing all that crap I wrote yesterday. I was feeling pretty low at the time. You are a very insightful guy and your views on human nature reflect your keen reasoning because they struck a chord with me. Your post helped me realise that some things are just not meant for me. It doesn't matter how hard I try I cannot go against what destiny has determined for me. It is absolutely futile. But it is alright, I don't care about those things anymore because I have already given up on them. The fact that you decided to change your post just to make me feel better only shows your good nature but please don't do it because we are all much better off when we see things for what they really are and begin accepting them as painful as they may be. I will try to make the most out my pathetic life without women.

Good lord guy :roll: It's not 'hopeless', you can change just about anything if you have the right attitude and persevere. This is what I partly objected to in youngbaldies first post...he was making it all sound way too 'third person' and really discounts 'will' in gaining control over your situation. Also there's too many generalizations- its not to hard to find 'exceptions' for yourself if you're willing to look for them and stick your neck out a bit. There is a 'vicious cycle' aspect to it all that youngbaldie was getting across quite well in his post...but most people can pull themselves out of it if they can muster up some will and use their intelligence to adapt to the situation.
Also, in my opinion truly rejecting people based on their appearance, and just as often based on other's judgement of their appearance, is not something that is neutral or even 'the way it should be'. 'Is that way' does not equal 'ought to be'..in morality this is considered the naturalistic fallacy. There are other human traits I personally value more highly than appearance..even in the opposite sex. :lol: Even if I have an 'innate' negative reaction to someone's appearance I try not to let it colour my opinion of them too much. If everyone let this attitude in themselves go uncontrolled we would have exterminated all of the 'defective' and would have much less human diversity by now...which from a societal is not a good thing at all. You'll never be to happy if you're too competitive and comparing yourself to others all the time...there's always someone 'much better'. You probably need to adjust your attitude more than anything physical.

 

[CCS]

I mean, if you are normally shy and balding, women will be able to tell right away if you have a sudden new personality you have chosen to adopt. Even if they meet you for the first time, they can immediately perceive whether you are putting on a show, or are being yourself (quiet, shy, etc.). I may be giving the opposite sex too much power, but I have seen this happen to guys, including myself when I was younger. They really have this sixth sense that I can't explain. Women are extremely perceptive.

That sixth sense is their sex drive. They can see if you don't look good enough.

 

[RaginDemon]

I mean, if you are normally shy and balding, women will be able to tell right away if you have a sudden new personality you have chosen to adopt. Even if they meet you for the first time, they can immediately perceive whether you are putting on a show, or are being yourself (quiet, shy, etc.). I may be giving the opposite sex too much power, but I have seen this happen to guys, including myself when I was younger. They really have this sixth sense that I can't explain. Women are extremely perceptive.

That sixth sense is their sex drive. They can see if you don't look good enough.

Another classic line from you lol