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petemitchell

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Sent off my presciption for propecia today (cheers Bert for the boots tip), I've also ordered these to try and keep my skin clear as well: http://www.mankind.co.uk/ProductDetails ... ctID=22226

I'm a little worried about overkill though :?

I don't have a digital camera so can't really take pictures, I'm really nervous though, fingers crossed I'm going to be a good responder, maintenance and I'll be happy, add a little regrowth and thickening and I'll be absolutely over the moon.
 

Bert

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Good Luck, can't comment on the skin stuff though.
 

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petemitchell said:
http://www.mankind.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=22226

£69.50 a month for vitamins is if I am not mistaken £834 a year !!!

That, right there is a frucking rip off, it contains some mixed tocopherols (it manages to avoid including E-Succinate??), some ester-C, ALA and DMAE, a B-complex and some oils along with other basic vitimains.

You can throw that together yourself for next to nothing if you shop around, is no better than a high street chemist multi-vitimin.


This below is what I call a complete spectrum vitamin, Lef's Life Extension mix:

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Vitamin A (as 50% Betatene® D. salinanatural beta-carotene with mixed carotenoids1, and 50% acetate)

10,000 IU

Additional typical carotenoid profile from D. salina:



Alpha-carotene

144 mcg

Other carotenoids (lutein,zeaxanthin and cryptoxanthin)

87 mcg

Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid8, calcium ascorbate, ascorbyl palmitate, magnesium ascorbate,
niacinamide ascorbate, and acerola juice powder)

2000 mg

Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol)

800 IU

Vitamin E (as D-alpha tocopheryl succinate)

400 IU

Thiamine (vitamin B1) (as thiamine HCl8)

125 mg

Riboflavin8 (vitamin B2) (with 2 mg riboflavin 5’ phosphate coenzyme)

50 mg

Niacin8 (vitamin B3) (as 53% niacinamide, 38% niacin, 9% niacinamide ascorbate)

190 mg

Vitamin B68 (as pyridoxine HCI with 2.5 mg pyridoxal 5’ phosphate coenzyme)

100 mg

Folic acid

800 mcg

Vitamin B12 (as 42% cyanocobalamin, 42% hydroxylcobalamin, 16% ion exchange resin)

600 mcg

Biotin

3000 mcg

Pantothenic acid (as D-calcium pantothenate8 with 5 mg pantethine)

600 mg

Calcium (as calcium ascorbate, calcium pantothenate, Calcium D-Glucarate2)

218 mg

Iodine (as potassium iodide)

75 mcg

Magnesium (as magnesium oxide, citrate, glycinate, taurinate, arginate, ascorbate)

325 mg

Zinc [as methionate (Optizinc®3), zinc succinate]

35 mg

Selenium (as 50% se-methylselenocysteine, 25% L-selenomethionine (yeast free) (SelenoPureâ„¢4), and 25% sodium selenate)

200 mcg

Manganese (as manganese gluconate)

1 mg

Chromium (as ChromeMate®5 chromium polynicotinate)

500 mcg

Molybdenum (as sodium molybdate)

125 mcg

Potassium (as potassium chloride)

37.4 mg

N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)

600 mg

Taurine

500 mg

Choline (as choline bitartrate)

120 mg

Inositol

250 mg

Phosphatidylcholine (from soy)

150 mg

Bromelain (from pineapple) (2400 gelatin digestive units per gram)

15 mg

para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA)

200 mg

Trimethylglycine (TMG) (as betaine anhydrous) (from sugar beets)

100 mg

Bilberry extract (Vaccinium myrtillus) (berry) [standardized for 25% anthocyanidins (7.5 mg)]

30 mg

Citrus bioflavonoid complex [50% total bioflavonoids (650 mg)]

1300 mg

Typical profile: (to equal 50% total bioflavonoids)



Flavanone (Hesperidin) 35% (455 mg)



Flavonones (Naringin, Naringenin 7-B-Rutinoside and others) 14% (182 mg)



Flavonols, Flavones and related phenolic compounds 1% (13 mg)



Ascorbyl palmitate (fat soluble vitamin C)

250 mg

Ginger root extract (Zingiber officinale) (root) [standardized for 5% gingerols (10 mg)]

200 mg

Leucoselect®6 grapeseed extract (Vitis vinifera) (seeds) [standardized for 95% proanthocyanidins (23.75 mg)]

25 mg

BioVin®7 full spectrum grape extract (Vitis vinifera L.) (whole grapes) [standardized to 95% proanthocyanidins (23.75 mg), 75% total polyphenols as gallic acid monohydrate (18.75 mg), 200 ppm trans-resveratrol]

25 mg

Milk thistle extract (Silybum marianus) (seeds) [standardized for 85% silymarin (85 mg)]

100 mg

Dilaurylthiodipropionate

25 mg

Thiodiproprionic acid

25 mg

Acerola juice powder extract 1:4 (Malpighia punicifolia L.) (fruit)

300 mg

Alpha-carotene

100 IU

Broccoli concentrate complex (A proprietary blend of broccoli sprout concentrates and Calcium D-Glucarate2) (providing 1.5 mg sulforaphane and 5 mg glucosinolates)

525 mg

Calcium D-Glucarate2

200 mg

Boron (as boron citrate/aspartate/glycinate complex)

3 mg

Lutein (purified concentrate from marigold flowers) (Tagetes erecta) (providing 465 mcg zeaxanthin)

15 mg

Lycopene (from natural tomato extract) (LYC-O-MATO®9)

3 mg

Luteolin [from Perilla leaf extract (Perilla frutescens)]

8 mg

Raspberry leaf (Rubus idaeus) and pomegranate fruit (Punica granatum l.) extract [standardized for 32% ellagic acid (50 mg)]

156.5 mg

Green tea (Camellia var. sinensis) decaffeinated extract, powdered (leaf) [standardized to 93% polyphenols (302.25 mg), 34% Epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) (110.5 mg)]

325 mg

Olive juice extract (fresh fruit) [standardized to 10% polyphenols (1.25 mg), 7% hydroxytyrosol (0.88 mg)]

12.5 mg

HiActives 100% fruit/berry complex (A proprietary blend of concentrated blackberry, blueberry, cranberry, elderberry, persimmon, plum and cherry powders)

200 mg

Sesame seed (Sesamum indicum) lignan extract [standardized for 60% sesamin (6 mg)]

10 mg


and it's cheaper and you get more!!!
 

petemitchell

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Perricone has quite a huge following, I know they're really expensive but it cuts out a lot of hassle of trying to throw stuff together. If after a month or two I think they're helping me keep really good skin I'll definately just shop around on the high street and find cheaper versions.
 
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