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[ayb]

I am 17 years old. In the past year, I have lost a considerable amount of hair, but mostly at my hairline. I want to start using some products to stop the hair loss, and maybe regrow some hair. I believe that because I'm young and that the dormant follicles have only been so for less than a year, I should respond somewhat well to treatment. I don't want to use Propecia or Rogaine, to start, because I figure other stuff should work.

I've done hours and hours of research on products and found many but don't know which are the best, especially cause you never know which sites are bullshit and which are legit.

So far, I've been using Folligen cream and Nioxin system 2 (for thinning hair) for about a month, and have not noticed much improvement. Some of the products I'm considering using are:

Scalpmed (Minoxidil with a bunch of other growth promoting stuff)
Pr0cerin
Revivogen
Tricomin

I don't know what to use. All this research has driven me crazy... how am I supposed to know what's good and what's not?

I'm seriously considering buying the Tricomin Revivogen pack, sold on this site, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=52because it combines a DHT inhibitor, Rev, with a growth stimulant, Tric. This seems like a good combination and these products seem to be pretty good, from the research I've done. Does this seem like a good idea?.. something that would be likely to help?

Maybe I could also use the Folligen cream (copper peptides) while I'm using those as well. I also have Emu oil from Dr. Pickart, PhD, (folligen guy) but have not used it too much cause it's orange ... wierd.

But there's also scalpmed. Based on a lot of what I've read, this is actually a legit product. It uses Minoxidil, plus some other stuff, so it should be equally, if not more effective than Rogaine. Anyone have any experience with it?

Thanks guys.

 

[jh]

First off, you're very young so you have a good chance of responding to treatment and being in good shape when the next breakthrough rolls along.

As for specific treatment advice, folligen and tricomin are similar products - both have copper peptides - but there is unresolved debate over which is more effective. Unequivocally, folligen spray is the most cost effective. I'd use either tricomin or folligen.

As for DHT inhibitors, I seem to be one of the few on here that thinks revivogen is pretty darn good - I've used it for nearly a year in lieu of finasteride and can't say there's been any noticeable change in my hair.

Nioxin, as far as I know, has no proven benefit as a treatment.

In sum, here's my advice: Drop Nioxin and add revivogen. Take pictures of your hair. Rest easy knowing you are treating your hairloss. Take pictures at three, six, and nine months of treatment. If you aren't seeing any improvement at that time, consider adding minoxidil and possibly finasteride/dutasteride on down the road.

 

[Guest]

Have you looked at the Big 3 at all? It doesn't sound like you've mentioned any of those as an option for you in your post.

 

[ayb]

By the big three I assume you mean Rogaine, Propecia and...? I mentioned that I want to use "unproven" treatment before I resort to the proven ones... to elaborate, I don't want to use Rogaine because of the appication process being really hard and time consuming, and the side effects of Propecia do not intrigue me at all.

I've been using Folligen cream for a month now and no signs of growth, by the way. How long should I use it before I expect to see anything?

 

[Guest]

Your thoughts of applying minoxidil is from the older generation.

If you use the foam it applies very easily and dries in about 2 minutes, and actually has a thickening effect on your hair. Spectral DNC also dries very quickly but the visual effect it has on your hair isn't so hot, but if you use a styling product after it then it's not too bad.

Finasteride's side effects occured in < 2% of those who used the drug during clinical trials. Most common is loss of libido and this subsides with continued use of the medication. You can look at the side effects of just about ANY drug and some of them are pretty scary. If you're so concerned about the sides start off with a low dosage regimen of finasteride like I'm on being 0.25mg every other day (EOD). It will still reduce DHT but there's a slightly less chance of sides since it will reduce slightly less DHT than 1mg.

The last part of the big 3 is the Nizoral shampoo. Though myself, and many others here, have switched over to the new Revita shampoo that includes a number of other proven regrowth ingredients like Apple Poly, Copper Peptides, Spin Traps, in addition to the ketoconazole and the fact that it DOESN'T have SLS like Nizoral does.

 

[ayb]

Well I don't have a problem with my vertex, it's just the overall density of my hair and my hairline seriously receding. The hairline is my primary concern. With that said, I don't think Rogaine is for me, considering what I just said.

I'm considering uring Revita Shampoo with Spectral DNC. Does this seem like a good combination and is there anything I should add?

 

[Guest]

Well I don't have a problem with my vertex, it's just the overall density of my hair and my hairline seriously receding. The hairline is my primary concern. With that said, I don't think Rogaine is for me, considering what I just said.

minoxidil regrows hairline hair as well, I don't think I said anything about the vertex.

I'm considering uring Revita Shampoo with Spectral DNC. Does this seem like a good combination and is there anything I should add?

That's what I'm using (but DNC only in the front while foam in the back) and it's working good for me so far though I just added Revita a couple weeks back.

If you're buying from the U.S. or Canada then Orbitus-superstore.com has the best price on these two. If you go with the foam get it on ebay or at a sams type store.

 

[ayb]

About the min, I read that it only effects the vertex, not the hairline. That may have been false info.

So if I was to use Revita, Spectral DNC, and Min foam, would that be the most effective combination?

In that case I would use Revita as my daily shampoo, Spectral DNC on my hairline and Min foam on the rest of my hair?

 

[Eagle4224]

The foam has only been tested on the vertex, but it has worked for a lot of people all over (including myself). I tried some unproven treatments before I got on rogain and the rest of the big 3 and it was nothing but a waste of time. You will wish you would have just went with the proven and not wasted your money. I would just try the big 3 and if you have any sides then try the unproven.

 

[ayb]

Now the one thing I'm wondering about is on the Spectral DNC site, it says "Spectral DNC® is faster and more effective then other topical medication developed for hair loss including Rogaine®. " Obviously, the product website is going to say good stuff about their products, but this nanosome tecnology does sound pretty good.

Alright I think I've made up my mind. I'll use Rogaine foam in the morning and before I go to bed on the top of my head, Spectral DNC in the morning and before bed on my hair line and temples, and then Revita every morning as my shampoo. This seems to me like a pretty effective combination if I use it every day.

Below is a drawing of how I will apply it... I apologize for the fact that it looks like a 2 year old drew it.

 

[Guest]

That drawing deserves a nice big smiley face sticker planted on there with a grade of a "+"!

That's basically what I do with the foam/DNC though I put the DNC a little further back than what you have. One spray of DNC on each side should be enough to cover where you plan to use it.

DS Labs recommends using Revita 5x per week so you can find something else for the other 2 days. A lot of us here like to us NANO. Also get some cheap Suave shampoo and do a pre-wash with this before the Revita. This allows only a small amount of Revita to make a nice good lather.

You might also want to consider JUST using the foam on your temples too, you can evaluate your results a year later and if it's not satisfactory you then have something in the arsenal like a DNC to switch to. People here have had amazing frontal results from the foam too but everyone reacts differently.

 

[ayb]

Alright, I'll try that. So I would use Revita on Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sun, and Nano on Wed, Sat.

In terms of a cheap shampoo beforehand, I want to make sure I don't use anything that has chemicals that will be bad for the hair. Should I use baby shampoo or something?

 

[Guest]

Alright, I'll try that. So I would use Revita on Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sun, and Nano on Wed, Sat.

In terms of a cheap shampoo beforehand, I want to make sure I don't use anything that has chemicals that will be bad for the hair. Should I use baby shampoo or something?

You'll only have it on just long enough to clean off the scalp and hair. You won't let it sit on the head like you would the Revita/NANO so just get whatever is cheapest. Some people here think the pre-wash gives the added benefit of being able to use the cheaper shampoos with the SLS ingredients in it since they may actually do a better job of scrubbing the grime off our heads. Some people use baby shampoo too and then like a T-Gel once a to make sure they're getting a good cleaning of the scalp. Pre-wash for me is Suave and Jason Thin to Thick.

 

[ayb]

So it's been about 3 months since I started using my current routine. That would be:

Spectral DNC - On the hairline, when I get up and when I go to bed
Revita Shampoo - 4 times a week
Nano Smapoo - 3 times a week

I think my hair loss has stopped or at least slowed down. However, it is very dry and frizzy, and doesn't look very 'healthy' you might say. About a week ago, I realized that my hair was just dry, probably from the hair loss shampoos. So I got some Dove moisturizing conditioner, which I use after using the hair loss shampoos. It really makes my hair look and feel much healthier.

On the back of the Revita bottle, it says that you can use a 'high quality' conditioner after using Revita. Okay... so is Dove high quality? And wouldn't this possibly wash out the Revita or the Nano? On the other hand, that gets washed out anyhow when you wash the shampoo out of your hair I'd think.

Either way, I'm thinking I'm going to start using Pure Emu Oil, which would moisturize my hair, while being a hairloss medicine.


*One more thing: is it possible that my hairloss started because my scalp was so dry? I mean I guess I remember my hiar being pretty dry when I first started losing it. I mean it is genetic in my family but who knows.

 

[antonio666]

cut back on the shampoo because it makes the hair fluffy and dull looking
instead of using these shampoos ,why not consider propecia or avodart.

even if they don't work in a few years you can say at least i give it everything but had no luck rather than what if i had done that or this??

whatever you decide i wish you the best because that is cruel to be losin your hair at such a youg age

 

[ayb]

Thanks for your reply, but at this point I'm not going to completely change my regimen.. I've only been using it for about 2-3 months and I'm not going to give up as it often takes 6 months or more to see results.

 

[ayb]

Well, I've been using Revita and Nano, switching them off every day for the past 3 months and I think my hair loss has at least stopped. I've seen a BIT of filling out on the hairline, though nothing drastic. I'm about to order some more, cause I'm running out, but I think I'm going to replace the Revita with Revivogen. will it be effective to use Revivogen on a every-other-day basis along with nano?

Second, I've been using a moisturizing conditioner (dove) after using these so that my hair isnt so dry. Should I worry about this effecting the shampoo, like maybe i'm washing it out? I don't think it would but who knows.

And lastly, I stopped using the Spectral DNC, but I was wondering if there was any treatment of the same kind that I put on at night and in the morning, but something that is in the form of a roll-on, not a spray. I feel this would e the easiest way to apply.

Thanks.