22, balding, and unhappy

Duncan McFly

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Note: The first part of this message is long and just talks about me and the problem i've been having with hair loss. If you don't want to read it, I've posted my specific questions in a seperate shorter section at the end of this message. Just scroll down.

Some background on me
Hi. I'm a 22 year old guy and I'm balding. It's just about the worst feeling I've had in my whole life. I'll state right up front, that some guys can pull off the bald look and it's fine, but I am not one of those guys in the slightest. I believe I can say with all honesty that I would look horrible as a bald man. Ever since I noticed the problem starting, i've done everything in my power to try and stop it or just slow it down. I don't want to be robbed of a youth.

I've met with a lot of hostility from others when I seek help on this issue, mostly because of my age. There's this stereotype that says that a 22 year old can't be balding. That it only happens to 50 year olds. That if you think you're balding at 22, you're obviously delusional, or a hypochondriac. Often people will just write it off without stopping to even look at the starts of thinning or recession which are readily apparent on your head. You wouldn't believe how quickly people dismiss it. I'm sure everybody knew at least one kid in college who was visibly balding, maybe even in high school. So people know it happens, but if you tell someone you know that it's happening to you they think you're paranoid. Well the fact of the matter is, that people can't comprehend someone this young balding, because in their minds it only happens to older men. And that's the worst part of it really. That it shouldn't be happening to us at 20. Because we will look like old men, and we will not get to enjoy our young adulthoods. This is when we're supposed to be dating, and having fun, maybe even falling in love. I don't want to be robbed of that. It's horrible and depressing. But I digress...

I first suspected something might be happening after I had just turned 20. By the time I was almost 21 I was positive as I now saw visible recession at the temples. I still had a youthful hairline, but I knew it was moving back. I saw a doctor about it and he told me there was no reason to worry, that everyone recedes a little and I shouldn't jump the gun prematurely. So I waited. Then I started receeding rapidly. By the time I was almost 22 My hairline had receeded almost a full inch. It was the sort of thing that I'm sure most people didn't notice because it still didn't look abnormal, but to me who knew where my hairline had always been it was very clear. What was more worrisome was how quickly it was falling out and at so young an age. I had never thought about my family history before but for the first time I did and I realized that both my grandfathers lost most of their hair, and my uncle was completely bald having lost all his hair at around my age.

I saw another doctor about transplants and he educated me a little, told me that the problem with transplants for someone with my stage of baldness, is that there's no telling how much hair I will lose, although if I am correct about how quickly it is progressing, then it is likely I will go entirely bald. If this is the case, there will not be enough donor hair to cover my whole head if I start the hairline too low. Well, I didn't want to wait until I was very noticeably balding badly to start transplants nor did I want to have an abnormaly high hairline transplanted down the road.

So I agreed with the doctor's advice not to get the transplants and I went on a regimen of Rogaine, Propecia, and Nizoral shampoo. The Propecia has possibly been effective in slowing down my hairloss but it certainly has not stopped anything as I see it get worse week by week. And it has caused a whole slew of other problems. Most noteably... it has made me virtually impotent (both through softening my erections, and through killing my libido), and it has caused me to develop a very bad, very persistent case of cystic acne (probably due to the havoc it is wreaking on my hormones).

Meanwhile, here I am a year into the Propecia and Rogaine regimen, despite the side effects, and I can see that I am finally starting to lose the battle. My hair has thinned out all over now. At first it was just deep into the temple regions but now it is everywhere. The hair on top of my head has gotten so thin that if I brush my hand through it, or even if it is just laying the wrong way on my head, areas of scalp are visible. There is the start of a bald spot on the crown of my head, and my temples are on the verge of fully noticeable recession, save for a ever sparser coat of increasingly fine hairs who's days are numbered. So that's my situation. I've been dealt the wonderful hand of going bald in my early twenties, and the only treatment that's been available to me is causing impotence and bad acne.

So, to sum up... balding, impotent, covered in zits, and 22. Not to mention I'm only 5 foot 4... which has always sucked, but it was much easier to accept and be positive about it when I still had my looks, my hair, and the ability to get an erection. Now I just wake up every day feeling like a sack of s--t and knowing that it's only going to keep getting worse.

Well, I didn't post this letter just to whine, or be negative. I'm determined not to let this beat me, and not to let it steal my youth away from me. I am willing to consider whatever is necessary to beat this. I woke up one morning in September, feeling so disgusted with myself, and hopeless that I could almost cry. So I called my mom, who has always been very wonderful and supportive and I told her about things. How bad the situation was getting, how crummy I felt, how transplants didn't look like a good option now, or down the line either, and how it all made me want to just give up.

Well after a good deal of consoling me (for which I thank god for having someone so supposrtive), she said "I don't think it's as hopeless as you think. I know this may be hard for you to consider... but I've heard hair systems these days have come a long way. I think it's worth considering". Well of course my initial reaction was to be hesitant but surprisingly enough (even to myself) I didn't just brush off the idea. I thought about it, and I asked her if she ever knew anyone who had one. She told me she had dated a man a few years ago who wore one, and she wouldn't have known if he hadn't told her.

The more I thought about the idea, and did some research into it, the more I started to realize, that it doesn't matter if it's transplants, a system, medication, or whatever... the bottom line is, if I can restore my hair, and live a normal, happy young adulthood, then I should seriously consider all options. The medicine isn't cutting it, and transplants may not be a realistic possibility for me. So I started doing research, and I made a few free consultations to see hair system specialists in the next 2 weeks.

SOME QUESTIONS
My question is this... I'm looking for nonsurgical solutions at this point but all the research i've done so far has only revealed a limited number of methods for non surgical hair replacement (though they're called by 100 different names). It seems that for men who are mostly bald, they shave what is left of your existing hair, and attatch the system (on a highly thin, often flesh colored layer) to your head with liquid adhesives. Then you go in for maintenance, and replace the system every so often. That's all well and good, but I'm not completely bald yet, and I probably won't have lost all of my hair for another two years or so at the rate I'm going. So this method seems like a bad fit for me.

For men with thinning hair I've heard of hair integration, which seems to be where they increase your density by attatching extra strands of hair to your existing hairs. My problem with this is that hair grows, and quickly. I'd imagine the effect of my density being increased would last a few weeks at most and then the hairs would be grown out again. not to mention that this method becomes useless if I lose even more hair.

What I would love, is some sort of progressive system, where hair is integrated into your thinnning areas through direct adherence to the scalp. This could get me through these times where thinning is the issue. Then later on when I am no longer "thinning" but rather "balding" over most of my head, I could get a more traditional system, or possibly a transplanted hairline with a system for the back.

Does anyone have any experience with non surgical replacement for men who are thinning? Or any advice for me in general (besides to get off the medications, because I already know the side effects suck, but it's the only weapon I have right now... if non surgical replacement works, i will discontinue them and be thrilled about it). I'm trying to keep my chin up guys... it's just... I'm so young, and I look and feel so old... and it's not fair. Anyone with any information, or words of encouragement... i could sure use them about now. Thanks everyone.
 

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Duncan -

It sucks for all of us, and obviously worse the younger you are. You need to keep your posts shorter, otherwise nobody will read them.

You're right that you should avoid transplants, because you will likely run out of donor hair. If you really haven't responded to the big 3, then you have a few options:

- try augmenting your regimen with spironolactone, xandrox, nano, revivogen etc. Although I'm not sure how much that will help you

- get a hair piece and bide your time until hair cloning/multiplication etc. become available (5 - 10 years)

- accept it and wear your hair really short

In the meantime, try to improve yourself in other ways. Pick up a sport, an instrument, a hobby, work out and bulk up etc. Building back your self-confidence is your best weapon right now.
 

Jack_the_Lad

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worried

Too true, don't get too transfixed on all the negative aspects of your life.

I see guys with big mug ears with face's like a welders bench getting nice women, so all I can dedue from this is that they like a good persona and attitude cuppled with high self esteem and social skills, rather than just looks alone.

Chin up Jack
 

Duncan McFly

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Cassin said:
Not to be an ***, but paragraphs would be nice. Try editing your post a bit to make it easier for us to read.

Or try copying it and move it here.........

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... m.php?f=24

Good luck to ya!

Okay I realize that was a big chunk to bite off, and o I've gone back and edited it to make it more readable. That link from your post is part of the women's forums. As for the length of my post, I know it's long but I guess I've had a lot on my mind. Hopefully, this will make it easier for people to read and I will get more response.
 

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Sorry about that, I didn't realize that link was just for women, that link hasn't been up long and I could have sworn it wasn't connected to the women when it first came up. I hope you didn't take that as a shot at you or anything.

I really don't think your at the stage where you should even consider an hair transplant, so your on the right track there.

Have you had your hormones checked?

Are you on any anti-depressants? Some of those can cause further hairloss.

Also have you looked into any regrowth topicals? Some people here never had succes till they started using multiple treatments.
 

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i don't know. transplants aren't really a good option until your baliding has begun to stabilize, or you'll see yourself getting more surgeries.
 
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I really feel you duncan. But think of it this way. Everyone goes through low and high points in their life. About 99 percent of people all have some problem.

Hey your 22, im just 17 and I have to deal with hairloss. I haven't even finished high school. Somebody is always worse off. I had to deal with my hairloss and was feeling horrible and thought things couldn't get any worse and then my docter tells me I have a chance of having rumatory arthritis at 17. And it sucks cause everyone in my family is really good looking and im kinda going through some growing pains right now. I used to be a really good looking guy but right now my looks are leaving me. (Good news is, they should come back like they did for my siblings)

But anyways, balding is more common than you think. There are a ton of young guys in their 20's thinning and receding but its just hard to tell cause they hide it. Nobody can tell I am balding with my hair.

The bad news is man, looks like the big 3 didn't work out for you. But hairpeices are not a bad option though.

Do you know Ben Affleck wears a hair peice? Sean connery wears a hairpiece. Look at some celebrity guys who are losing their hair.


Kelly Slater (boned pam anderson)
Barry Watson from 7th heaven
Jim Carrey
Chris Klein American Pie
Sean William Scott (stifler from american pie)
JC Chasez NSYNC member
AJ MACLEAN backstreet boy
Matt damon (not sure someone here told me he was receding a bit)
All these guys wear rugs or got hair transplants
Matt Mchaunhey (gets a ton of hot chicks)
Charlie Sheen (he is married to denise richards)
Luke Perry 90210
Sean Connery (James Bond!)
Ben Affleck (boned JLO)
Brenden Fraser (wears a rug)

Plus I know 2 really good looking guys that I know in person who are losing their hair. They are both 23 but they still get hot chicks because they cover it and don't let it bother them.

You should turn to god man. I started reading the bible and god is really helping me through this ruff time in my life and making things much better. Think about it this way, you will be an old man before you know it and hairloss wont even matter to you. Almost 100 percent of guys by age 70 have some form of hairloss. We just get it at different times.
 

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Cassin

No offense taken. I didn't think you were jabbing at me, so no worries. I haven't had my hormones checked. I'm in that awkward stage in between college graduation and finding work, where I don't have health insurance so I haven't been able to go to a doctor (other than for the free consultations with the hair loss specialists), but as soon as I can, I intend to. What exactly do you mean when you say regrowth topicals? Because I'm already on Rogaine. If you mean some of the herbal products which are out there then the only one I've tried is Nizim shampoo + Nizim hair growth stimulator, with no effect. The thing about regrowth topicals that don't alter DHT levels below the surface, is logically, they shouldn't work. They simply improve the environment in which hair can grow, but if your hair is unable to grow because the follicles are being killed by DHT, then no amount of non-DHT altering topicals should make any difference. It's like trying to fill a circular hole with a square peg. That's my impression anyhow. But if I'm at all mistaken in my understanding, I'm open to suggestions.

thatwasthen778
I agree wholeheartedly. No sense in getting transplants to improve density, when the rest is going to fall out in the next 2 years anyway and then I won't have enough hair left to replace it. That's why I'm not looking to get transplants right now. I'm looking for advice on non surgical restoration.

YoungGuy17
That sucks that it's happening to you at 17. I'm real sorry man. I admire your attitude about the whole thing, but it's just not for me. Thanks for posting that list of celebrities who wear pieces or have had surgery. It was encouraging because all of their hair looks pretty good. Where did you find out about them from? I agree that systems are looking like a better alternative than surgery for now. But getting information on what methods are actually offered is difficult.

To all: Any information on non surgical restoration?
Thanks for the feedback I've been getting. I appreciate the empathy and suggestions, as well as the non hostile atmosphere on these forums. But bringing this back to my original question, does anyone have any information on what types of non surgical restoration (if any) are offered for men who do not yet have extensive baldness? I am thinning all over and scalp is becoming visible. I have moderate recession at the temples and front. A bald patch is beginning to form on the crown. A full system would mean shaving my head and I think it's premature for that. What can they do to integrate more hair in the early stages? Any advice will be appreciated greatly. Thanks guys.[/i][/b]
 

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I am young too, started my loss at 20 I think so I know how you feel. I let it take over my life for about 6 months then just got to the point where I said f*** it, if my hair doesn't want to be on my head then I dont want it there. Buzzed it all off and have been popping the meds and my hair seems to be hanging in there, and might even be getting better so all my fingers are crossed.
 

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i feel ya man; good luck to ya.
 

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It sucks that we can land on the moon, send robots to other planets, clone things, blow the entire world up at the push of a few buttons but we can't keep our own hair or make new hair to replace the fallen. What a great age we live in.
 

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Are you sure all of those celebs are wearing rugs, or are you trying to make yourself feel better?
 
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I definitely feel you guys im 21 and loosing my hair it started when i was 17 it sux bigtime whats even worse is my 3 best buds have full heads of hair with perfect hairlines ,dam dam dam!!..WHY ME!!.. Anyways my confidence with girls has been Destroyed bigtime i cant tell you how many relationships ive sabotaged becuz of this , i try to hide it by wearing hats and what not but come on how much longer can i do that you know..I hate the fact the this stresses me out everyday and all i do is think about it all the time..

I hate dudes with perfect hairlines..

i hate older guys who should be loosing their hair but have a great head of hair

I hate my genetics

i hate superficial girls.

I hate people who look at you funny and stare or point out the obvious.

I hate the fact that theres NO CURE!!



Ah..Id probaly go totally insane if it wasnt for the fact that im a christian and have faith in god but theres been plenty of times where ive just asked god why is this happening to me and to take it away..**sigh**
Keep the faith man cuz im not giving up! Never..

Sorry for going on and on
 

Ams99

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hey duncan, do you have a family history of early onset of male pattern baldness?
 

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Hay Head said:
Are you sure all of those celebs are wearing rugs, or are you trying to make yourself feel better?

I saw Brenden Fraser in a play in london last year and hes getting a bald spot at the crown
 

kiwi1973

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Hay Head said:
Are you sure all of those celebs are wearing rugs, or are you trying to make yourself feel better?

I saw Brenden Fraser in a play in london last year and hes getting a bald spot at the crown
 

kiwi1973

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Hay Head said:
Are you sure all of those celebs are wearing rugs, or are you trying to make yourself feel better?

I saw Brenden Fraser in a play in london last year and hes getting a bald spot at the crown
 

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Ams99 said:
hey duncan, do you have a family history of early onset of male pattern baldness?

Yes. Both my grandfathers lost most of their hair, although I don't know when. My uncle lost all of his hair by the time he was 24. He started only a year before I did.

I'm going to try and bring this back to my original question again since I haven't gotten too much response on it. Information on non-surgical hair replacement procedures available for men who are balding but have not yet lost all their hair? Full blown hair systems seem to be for men who have already lost the war. Are there methods available for men with diffuse thinning, and the starts of a bald spot on the crown? I'm going to a salon next Wednesday to ask similar questions and I'd like to have a little information before I go.
 

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Cause4Concern said:
I definitely feel you guys im 21 and loosing my hair it started when i was 17 it sux bigtime whats even worse is my 3 best buds have full heads of hair with perfect hairlines ,dam dam dam!!..WHY ME!!.. Anyways my confidence with girls has been Destroyed bigtime i cant tell you how many relationships ive sabotaged becuz of this , i try to hide it by wearing hats and what not but come on how much longer can i do that you know..I hate the fact the this stresses me out everyday and all i do is think about it all the time..

I hate dudes with perfect hairlines..

i hate older guys who should be loosing their hair but have a great head of hair

I hate my genetics

i hate superficial girls.

I hate people who look at you funny and stare or point out the obvious.

I hate the fact that theres NO CURE!!



Ah..Id probaly go totally insane if it wasnt for the fact that im a christian and have faith in god but theres been plenty of times where ive just asked god why is this happening to me and to take it away..**sigh**
Keep the faith man cuz im not giving up! Never..

Sorry for going on and on

Don't get overstressed by your situation, women can be funny creatures.
They're not like men and they don't think like us. A woman has different priorties, they can go mad for personalties, money, things they veiw probally geared towards a family. Again lossing hair isn't the most attractive thing, but it's not the end of the world either
 
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