2017 And We Have Absolutely Nothing

[Xander94]

inb4 in the next 5 years...

 

[Xander94]

Stop making useless threads Xander!!

If 2018 nothing again gonna quit finasteride and shave it

 

[WMQ]

If 2018 nothing again gonna quit finasteride and shave it

We will make sure to remind you of this on Jan 1 2019

 

[Xaser94]

Yeah it's pretty sad. All I want is confirmation follica has started their pivotal trial and the release date/brotzu efficacy to be released. It's so close yet so far away. And seeing the hairline go at a faster pace just on the cusp of new treatments is salt on the wounds.

I would try to stay as positive as possible on the maintenance front however. Shesiedo at worst can halt hair loss until a better solution is found, at best regrows quite a bit of hair after optimization. And the release date for that as far as I know is 2018, and they are on the last trial they need before commercializations. Polichems topical finasteride is also going to help maintain until a better treatment is here and that is in phase 3 and going to be over in February. Hopefully it's sold in the US, and has no sides.

im sad the interview with samumed was never conducted on these forums . It would have been nice to know where they are in terms of commercializations recently through their mouths. Was the third phase 2 trial even started smh?

 

[d3nt3dsh0v3l]

I'll feel with you, bro.

Watching hair come out by the hundreds each day... it feels like you are disintegrating.

Next year seems to be my last year too... I wish I could say that I hope X or Y pulls through, but... nobody has really committed yet, except perhaps Shiseido.

 

[g.i joey]

isnt 2020 a sure thing? Theres no chance id even consider dropping finasteride till 2020 at least. After that, if THAT doesnt come through, i may just throw in the towel as ill be 27-28 and have no choice but to accept this sh*t.

 

[The Wolf of Bald Street]

We have something. We have minoxidil. We have finasteride and dutasteride if you can handle it. We have RU if you are willing to go through all the hoops to get and prepare and if you trust sketchy sh*t from China. We have plugs. You can even harvest beard and pubic hair if you must. You can get SMP under the plugs to make it look like you have density. Before the 90s you only had rugs and large doll hair plugs. I am greatful we at least have a few more options to slow down the onslaught of baldness today. We just have to try to hold on long enough for something else to come out, Follica most likely anything that will help us hold on a little longer, thicken up just a little bit to reach baldness escape velocity for however long it takes for something big like Tsuji to come out.

 

[Pavi]

We weren't expecting much in 2017. 2018 is
the make it or break it year

 

[redpilled]

finasteride + hair transplant is the only way to do it these days, but a hair transplant is too expensive/too damned noticeable for many (can't take the time off work).

 

[kiwipilu]

finasteride + hair transplant is the only way to do it these days, but a hair transplant is too expensive/too damned noticeable for many (can't take the time off work).

I have met a bunch of guys who had hair transplant and I (hair psycho) could barely see this was hair transplant. So how can an average person see this is a hair transplant? Of course I agree you have to pay the price and go to an excellent surgeon(who know how to recreate a hairline). BTW most people don't have full norwood 0 (30yo>), most have irregular mature hairlines even in density so unless you make a norwood 0(playmobil like) with low density at 35yo, results are often pretty damn good. hair transplant can be a good backup solution for people who reach the point of no return but not always(severe hairloss). so a med cure is very welcome !

 

[H]

isnt 2020 a sure thing? Theres no chance id even consider dropping finasteride till 2020 at least. After that, if THAT doesnt come through, i may just throw in the towel as ill be 27-28 and have no choice but to accept this sh*t.

2020 is probably a sure thing. The year 2020 will come to exist whether it has a cure or not I dunno

 

[g.i joey]

2020 is probably a sure thing. The year 2020 will come to exist whether it has a cure or not I dunno

Sorry man, let me lay it out for the retards who can't put things in context, such as yourself

Tsuji come 2020, if tsuji no come, me have no hair.

 

[Swoop]

I have met a bunch of guys who had hair transplant and I (hair psycho) could barely see this was hair transplant. So how can an average person see this is a hair transplant? Of course I agree you have to pay the price and go to an excellent surgeon(who know how to recreate a hairline). BTW most people don't have full norwood 0 (30yo>), most have irregular mature hairlines even in density so unless you make a norwood 0(playmobil like) with low density at 35yo, results are often pretty damn good. hair transplant can be a good backup solution for people who reach the point of no return but not always(severe hairloss). so a med cure is very welcome !

I believe he meant more in the context of the healing stages after a hair transplant. If you can't take time off work or wear a hat or something, yeah it's noticeable.

 

[H]

Sorry man, let me lay it out for the retards who can't put things in context, such as yourself

Tsuji come 2020, if tsuji no come, me have no hair.

Thought you were going to put it in context you sound the same? Nobody has any clue if Tsujis going to make it and even if he does many of the posters are going to spew at you that it's going to be too expensive for all of us so its pointless to even hope for it anyway apparently.

 

[Swoop]

Polichems topical finasteride is also going to help maintain until a better treatment is here and that is in phase 3 and going to be over in February. Hopefully it's sold in the US, and has no sides.

Polichem is flawed research.

Take any topical finasteride you want, it'll be the same.

Serum DHT will decline same % anyway if you want it to work well.

Only plausible argument for topical finasteride being better than oral finasteride in terms of side effects profile is less permeation through BBB and different mode of metabolism of the compound. But you don't have to wait for Polichem for that.

 

[Swoop]

Last I checked they had scalp DHT reduced greatly and serum DHT less than that, more or less 25% or so?

I'd say that is certainly a step in the right direction - for that.

DHT cannot be the only avenue of hair loss treatment....
nigs

Of course it does. IF you apply 0.1 or 0.2ml of the topical solution to your scalp.

Fairly sure that if you apply 0.1ml of minoxidil instead of 1ml of minoxidil, there will also be way less serum absorption. There is no way 0.1ml will work just as good as the 1ml though.

RESULTS: Change from baseline in scalp DHT was -70% for P-3074 o.d. and approx. -50% for P-3074 b.i.d. and the tablet. Serum DHT decreased by 60 - 70%. The doses of 100 and 200 μL P-3074 resulted in a -47/-52% scalp DHT reduction, similar to the 300 and 400 μL doses (i.e., -37/-54%). A -5.6% inhibition was observed for the vehicle. Serum DHT was reduced by only -24/-26% with 100 and 200 μL P-3074 and by -44/-48% with 300 and 400 μL P-3074. No relevant changes occurred for serum testosterone.

See they used 0.3ml and 0.4ml and suddenly serum already goes to -44 and -48%.

So yeah 0.1ml is enough for your eyebrows maybe.