16 Y/o Guy, Tell Me Straight Up, What Can I Expect In The Coming Years?

[That Guy]

Hmmm...I mean any of the thousands of hair loss products on the market meant to treat hair loss (hair loss treatments). There is literally way too many to count. Type hair loss product on google, and you will get endless results. Can you name me one that has been successful in the last decade?

"There are thousands, but I can't name even one of the top of my head"

Lol. Sure, you know what? I'll do it. I'll Google it and I will write this as I go. Upon typing in "hair loss products" into Google:

• The first thing I get that ISN'T Finasteride or Rogaine is "Herbal-H" an "all natural" treatment. It specifically says it "doesn't contain finasteride" so right away we know it's probably useless. It claims to be "medically proven", but when you go to the page explaining this, it is not a link to any scientific study, but a few charts full of homeopathic horseshit jargon like "toxins".

• The next thing I see is something made by a French company called "Specifique". It is a lotion or something for thinning hair, but all it contains is vitamins and amino acid. So unless you're losing hair due to some vitamin deficiency, this would do nothing.

• The next thing is "Viviscal Maximum Stimulant Tablets" all they are is Biotin, Zinc and some other vitamins. I found one study on Biotin that said that women who are suffering from temporary hairloss were shown to benefit from it compared to the placebo group.

• Next up is some French shampoo I cannot pronounce. It contains vitamins and amino acid...

• Next is some "DS Lab Spectral" stuff. It says nothing about it on the store page aside from marketing slogans.

• Now I'm on "grow gorgeous density serum"...more acids and vitamins.

• "Mane n' Tail" herbal shampoo...contains amino acids and vitamins...

I'm starting to recognize a pattern here: The thousands of hairloss treatments are all just concoctions of amino acids and vitamins. Literally none of which have any actual scientific backing showing that they inhibit DHT. Some of them do have vasodilation to them, but not at all comparable to minoxidil.

This has been an eye-opening journey. It's shown me that naysayers really are comparing scientifically backed future treatments to mixtures of vitamins and amino acids...

Here's are some discoveries in the past decade that are presently being used to develop future treatments:

• Neonatal cells developed under embryonic conditions to stimulate hair growth in humans.

• White Mangrove extract inhibits 5-ar

• Lab grown skin and hair by Riken that works in vivo

• DP Cells derived from pluripotent stem cells that grow hair

• Multiplication of DSC cells

• 4D Printing for the purpose of creating hair

To suggest that any of these things are remotely comparable to companies bottling amino acid and vitamin B and using that as your basis for thinking upcoming treatments will fail is utterly asinine.

 

[Dench57]

.Probably half the reason Brotzu is getting miraculous results.

Where are these miraculous results from Brotzu?

 

[dralex]

"There are thousands, but I can't name even one of the top of my head"

Lol. Sure, you know what? I'll do it. I'll Google it and I will write this as I go. Upon typing in "hair loss products" into Google:

• The first thing I get that ISN'T Finasteride or Rogaine is "Herbal-H" an "all natural" treatment. It specifically says it "doesn't contain finasteride" so right away we know it's probably useless. It claims to be "medically proven", but when you go to the page explaining this, it is not a link to any scientific study, but a few charts full of homeopathic horseshit jargon like "toxins".

• The next thing I see is something made by a French company called "Specifique". It is a lotion or something for thinning hair, but all it contains is vitamins and amino acid. So unless you're losing hair due to some vitamin deficiency, this would do nothing.

• The next thing is "Viviscal Maximum Stimulant Tablets" all they are is Biotin, Zinc and some other vitamins. I found one study on Biotin that said that women who are suffering from temporary hairloss were shown to benefit from it compared to the placebo group.

• Next up is some French shampoo I cannot pronounce. It contains vitamins and amino acid...

• Next is some "DS Lab Spectral" stuff. It says nothing about it on the store page aside from marketing slogans.

• Now I'm on "grow gorgeous density serum"...more acids and vitamins.
Lol some of those treatments are so so far off, and are going to cost insane amounts.
• "Mane n' Tail" herbal shampoo...contains amino acids and vitamins...

I'm starting to recognize a pattern here: The thousands of hairloss treatments are all just concoctions of amino acids and vitamins. Literally none of which have any actual scientific backing showing that they inhibit DHT. Some of them do have vasodilation to them, but not at all comparable to minoxidil.

This has been an eye-opening journey. It's shown me that naysayers really are comparing scientifically backed future treatments to mixtures of vitamins and amino acids...

Here's are some discoveries in the past decade that are presently being used to develop future treatments:

• Neonatal cells developed under embryonic conditions to stimulate hair growth in humans.

• White Mangrove extract inhibits 5-ar

• Lab grown skin and hair by Riken that works in vivo

• DP Cells derived from pluripotent stem cells that grow hair

• Multiplication of DSC cells

• 4D Printing for the purpose of creating hair

To suggest that any of these things are remotely comparable to companies bottling amino acid and vitamin B and using that as your basis for thinking upcoming treatments will fail is utterly asinine.

None of those have been successful in the past decade. They are "promising" future treatments just like laser hair loss therapy and PRP. PRP and laser therapy was also backed by "science" (bullshit studies conducted by themselves that are really not that credible), and guess what, they both don't do sh*t, but they both claimed great results, and actually still try to claim great results. In the end, all they care about is getting our money, not about whether they actually solve hair loss.

 

[Dante92]

"What we can expect"? Honestly?

 

[IggyPop]

Nothing written in stone but medicines date back 1000s of years and only in the last twenty years were we introduced to Minoxidil and Finasteride (which are both decent treatments). The way it's progressing I think we are in for some great options and treatments in the near future, 5-10 years. However, the "5 years and we have a cure" statement has been repeated a lot in the past decade so be aware that the current research (Replicel, Hair Cloning, etc.) might not work.

I swear, I recently came across a posting from 2003(!) where some guy asked a doctor whether it is still worth starting Finasteride and Minoxidil, because new treatments were so close.........

@OP: 16 is very young for male pattern baldness, if you are actually balding and not just your hairline becoming a bit more mature. I would take action, maybe by using some topical anti-androgen (RU58841) with minoxidil. Honest answer.....

 

[GoldenMane]

Is Brotzu's lotion really being taken seriously?
I'm all in on Tsuji/Riken in 2025, but until then I've got finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and hair transplants, and I'm not getting any younger!

 

[IggyPop]

Is Brotzu's lotion really being taken seriously?
I'm all in on Tsuji/Riken in 2025, but until then I've got finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and hair transplants, and I'm not getting any younger!

Well, I took it seriously until a few weeks ago, but I am starting to become a bit suspicious that there haven´t been any news in recent months.......

 

[GoldenMane]

We've seen f*** all results from Brotzu's lotion aside from that allopica universalis girl. It just seems like a lot of faith to put in an accidental discovery from an elderly scientist, reputable in other fields, with so little evidence to back it up. I'll try it for sure, but not expecting much from it.

 

[That Guy]

None of those have been successful in the past decade.

Because they didn't exist

They are "promising" future treatments just like laser hair loss therapy and PRP.

No.

PRP and laser therapy was also backed by "science" (bullshit studies conducted by themselves that are really not that credible), and guess what, they both don't do sh*t, but they both claimed great results, and actually still try to claim great results.

Laser therapy has been shown to have varying degrees of efficacy compared to a sham device, but its efficacy is mild assuming it works at all for the individual.

As for PRP here is a study on it

Its conclusion: "Our data suggest that PRP injections may have a positive therapeutic effect on male and female pattern hair loss without remarkable major side effects. Further studies are needed to confirm its efficacy."

All of this is a far cry and the opposite of what you claim.

In the end, all they care about is getting our money, not about whether they actually solve hair loss.

Thus, the amount of money one can make with a proven, permanent, working treatment would be exponential.

Stop talking out of your *** about this stuff and go back to taking finasteride and minoxidil if you're so certain it's all a f*****g sham.

Then, head on over to the side-effects forum and complain about how propecia "castrated" you and minoxidil aged you or something and how this awful disease desperately needs a solution like every other crybaby.

 

[coolio]

Stop talking out of your *** about this stuff and go back to taking finasteride and minoxidil if you're so certain it's all a f*****g sham.

Then, head on over to the side-effects forum and complain about how propecia "castrated" you and minoxidil aged you or something and how this awful disease desperately needs a solution like every other crybaby.

Kill the messenger much?

 

[dralex]

Because they didn't exist



No.



Laser therapy has been shown to have varying degrees of efficacy compared to a sham device, but its efficacy is mild assuming it works at all for the individual.

As for PRP here is a study on it

Its conclusion: "Our data suggest that PRP injections may have a positive therapeutic effect on male and female pattern hair loss without remarkable major side effects. Further studies are needed to confirm its efficacy."

All of this is a far cry and the opposite of what you claim.



Thus, the amount of money one can make with a proven, permanent, working treatment would be exponential.

Stop talking out of your *** about this stuff and go back to taking finasteride and minoxidil if you're so certain it's all a f*****g sham.

Then, head on over to the side-effects forum and complain about how propecia "castrated" you and minoxidil aged you or something and how this awful disease desperately needs a solution like every other crybaby.

My point that all they care about is money is that they will completely exaggerate or even fabricate the results in order to make money. Just as has been done with past treatments. I don't think any of these treatments will be effective (other than stem cell which won't be for a while and will be extremely expensive) but who's to say. We will find out soon enough. Good for you having hope, but some of us have to live in the moment and realize that these treatments may not be effective so we need to take action now.
And lol propecia ain't strong enough to castrate me, let alone stop my hair loss.