1 year out and significant improvement

CJS

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I have the typical diffuse thinning that many women experience after menopause. Most dermatologists are generalists and know the basics of hair loss, yet don't stay current on the medical literature. What they do know reflects the studies done on men. After test-driving a few derms and being told to pick up a box of minoxidil at Costco and report back in 6 months, I realized what I was up against.

While I was considering my next step, I started with topical liquid minoxidil 5% and immediately realized that this was not a sustainable protocol for me. Given the diffuse thinning of my hair, I had to treat my entire scalp. Keeping the liquid off my hair while thoroughly covering my scalp was impossible. The product leaves a film from the carrier solution that dries out my hair, leaving it stiff and unmanageable. Moreover, I have naturally curly hair. Massaging the product into my scalp required that I overhandle my hair, disrupting my curl pattern and leaving me with a headful of frizz not fit for public display. Soon my entire day was scheduled around the minoxidil treatment.

Through my library I got institutional access to medical journals and read everything on hair loss that I could find. I also located a team of hair specialists in Australia who have an educational YouTube channel. These doctors are the real deal. I had a video consult with one and definitely got my money's worth of solid advice. While he could not take me on as a patient due to his inability to personally confirm my AA diagnosis, he did make recommendations based on my health history and hair loss profile. The challenge would be to find a generalist derm in the US who would go along with the plan.

Finding a US derm willing to prescribe the finasteride dose he recommends for post-menopausal women was challenging. Their only familiarity is the low dose typically prescribed to men. Unfortunately, that dose is not particularly effective for women in my age group. Providing a copy of the study supporting the higher dose helped me sell my case. I've been using oral finasteride for nearly 6 months now.

Meanwhile the nasty topical minoxidil protocol continued. As horrific as it is, I must say that after one year I've had pretty good results with overall increased density. My objective now was to find a US derm who would prescribe oral minoxidil in the dose recommended by the Australian doctor. It took me awhile to find a generalist derm who was willing to prescribe oral minoxidil in any dose, given that I was already taking a high dose of oral finasteride. I finally hit pay dirt with a new derm who actually uses oral minoxidil herself and has personal experience balancing the risks against the rewards. While she's waiting for me to send her a copy of the study supporting the dose recommended by the Australian doctor, she suggested that I get started with the lower dose that she currently uses. So I've been on the oral minoxidil for about a week now. So glad to be rid of that nasty topical brew.
 

Nsas

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Welcome and congratulations on your hair regrowth. Do you mind sharing that dose of finasteride was recommended to you? I’ve been taking 5mg daily for about 3 weeks now. I was on 1mg when I first started and took 2.5mg daily for the last several years. I’ve tried almost every known treatment with little success. I’m hoping the increased dose will do the trick.
 

Casey4193

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I’m taking oral minoxidil too (1.25). Have you all had better luck with the higher doses? Debating going up to 2.5 or 5mg but my eyes look kind of swollen and I’m wondering if it’s water retention from the minoxidil?
 

iCloud

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Glad to hear you are making progress!

What is the dose of finasteride that the Hair Loss Show doctor recommended to you? Thanks. I’m also a woman, pre-menopausal, and I’m on dutasteride.
Also, could you post the reference to the study here? Title/Authors. That would be hugely appreciated.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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I’m taking oral minoxidil too (1.25). Have you all had better luck with the higher doses? Debating going up to 2.5 or 5mg but my eyes look kind of swollen and I’m wondering if it’s water retention from the minoxidil?
It could be water retention but I think that effect will dissipate over time. I was taking 12.5mg daily and now have tapered down to 6.25 mg daily which is causing less peripheral body hair growth. I know that .25 mg oral min plus 25 mg spironolactone daily is a pretty standard dosage for females. I am never quite sure whether to use "male" dosages or female ones for non-HRT meds but usually I use the X
 

JaneyElizabeth

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It could be water retention but I think that effect will dissipate over time. I was taking 12.5mg daily and now have tapered down to 6.25 mg daily which is causing less peripheral body hair growth. I know that .25 mg oral min plus 25 mg spironolactone daily is a pretty standard dosage for females. I am never quite sure whether to use "male" dosages or female ones for non-HRT meds but usually I use the XY doses but as my regrowth stabilizes into a full or almost full head of hair, I might be able to move down to 2.5 mg daily but at this point, we are talking about a few drops daily on the back of the tongue, so little that it seems too little to work but a couple of drops of oral min go a long ways.
 

Arlena

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I have the typical diffuse thinning that many women experience after menopause. Most dermatologists are generalists and know the basics of hair loss, yet don't stay current on the medical literature. What they do know reflects the studies done on men. After test-driving a few derms and being told to pick up a box of minoxidil at Costco and report back in 6 months, I realized what I was up against.

While I was considering my next step, I started with topical liquid minoxidil 5% and immediately realized that this was not a sustainable protocol for me. Given the diffuse thinning of my hair, I had to treat my entire scalp. Keeping the liquid off my hair while thoroughly covering my scalp was impossible. The product leaves a film from the carrier solution that dries out my hair, leaving it stiff and unmanageable. Moreover, I have naturally curly hair. Massaging the product into my scalp required that I overhandle my hair, disrupting my curl pattern and leaving me with a headful of frizz not fit for public display. Soon my entire day was scheduled around the minoxidil treatment.

Through my library I got institutional access to medical journals and read everything on hair loss that I could find. I also located a team of hair specialists in Australia who have an educational YouTube channel. These doctors are the real deal. I had a video consult with one and definitely got my money's worth of solid advice. While he could not take me on as a patient due to his inability to personally confirm my AA diagnosis, he did make recommendations based on my health history and hair loss profile. The challenge would be to find a generalist derm in the US who would go along with the plan.

Finding a US derm willing to prescribe the finasteride dose he recommends for post-menopausal women was challenging. Their only familiarity is the low dose typically prescribed to men. Unfortunately, that dose is not particularly effective for women in my age group. Providing a copy of the study supporting the higher dose helped me sell my case. I've been using oral finasteride for nearly 6 months now.

Meanwhile the nasty topical minoxidil protocol continued. As horrific as it is, I must say that after one year I've had pretty good results with overall increased density. My objective now was to find a US derm who would prescribe oral minoxidil in the dose recommended by the Australian doctor. It took me awhile to find a generalist derm who was willing to prescribe oral minoxidil in any dose, given that I was already taking a high dose of oral finasteride. I finally hit pay dirt with a new derm who actually uses oral minoxidil herself and has personal experience balancing the risks against the rewards. While she's waiting for me to send her a copy of the study supporting the dose recommended by the Australian doctor, she suggested that I get started with the lower dose that she currently uses. So I've been on the oral minoxidil for about a week now. So glad to be rid of that nasty topical brew.
Check the rubber washers in your shower head!! My shower head had these black small washers that were degraded and giving off this black ink that was going in the water and all over me when I showered. Since I replaced my shower head and got rid of those washers my hair is growing back again. I would have never known if my shower head didn't break. I thought it was aging because I am 51 but it wasn't. Hope this helps!
 
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