x'finasteride user wondering where to go what to do....

[hairflow]

Hello everybody!

I have been using finasteride off and on for the last 3 years. I don't think ive experienced any negative side effects from it, but i'm at a point where my yoga training is taking total desire for purity in heart and habit. Im starting to be very conscious of what i ingest. I've been completely off for about a month now.

finasteride has pretty well done a good job for prolonging my hair. I've been researching it again and have read heaps of negative side effects on some other websites. Now im scared to take it again. Im noticing a little bit of thinning again since i've stopped and wondering what i should do...

I want to take finasteride, but the horror stories, man o man, my heart goes out to those guys. I would try the foam, but i hate routine.

Maybe ill just surrender, hand it over to god and accept the form that i am?!

What do you guys think? Is there anyone else out there in the same boat as me?

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Thanks

 

[Michael84]

Continue taking finasteride. If you didn't have any sides before then it's ok. Well, that's my opinion.

 

[slurms mackenzie]

Well bhuddist monks shave their head ......

You have to be realistic about what you will accept in your body, for example would you rule out taking paracetamol.

I've spent years on finasteride and meditate and never found it got in the way, however i do think that over the years it slowly depleted my libido (I know that happens with age but a year off the stuff made me come to this conclusion), and i would class libido as part of my chi

If you want to keep your hair, then IMO it's the DHT you want to be tackling, topical spironolactone and revivogen are both options use by people on these boards, but you need to reconcile with yourself as to whether or not you'd see these as pure.

Remember just because somethings natural it doesn't mean it doesn't have systemic effects.

 

[hairflow]

Well bhuddist monks shave their head ......

You have to be realistic about what you will accept in your body, for example would you rule out taking paracetamol.

I've spent years on finasteride and meditate and never found it got in the way, however i do think that over the years it slowly depleted my libido (I know that happens with age but a year off the stuff made me come to this conclusion), and i would class libido as part of my chi

If you want to keep your hair, then IMO it's the DHT you want to be tackling, topical spironolactone and revivogen are both options use by people on these boards, but you need to reconcile with yourself as to whether or not you'd see these as pure.

Remember just because somethings natural it doesn't mean it doesn't have systemic effects.

Hey guys, thanks for your input. Ive still got hair on my head. Im thinking if i want to keep it, i should probably do something now to maintain it.

Ive been noticing that i've been looking at all the other guys and noticing how much hair they have. It's awfully annoying. It's my ego comparing myself to others. Most men i see have some degree of hair loss. It's very VERY common. I think it even looks kind of 'manly'.

Ive been weighing the options over and over again, to start taking finasteride again. Being self concious is a side effect of not having hair. Maybe it'll teach me to love myself more. But on the other hand, i want to be attractive and not thinking about my hairloss every time i look in a mirror.

Has anyone had good effect just using rogaine foam for an extended period of time? Ive noticed my scalp is quite dry so ive been putting a little bit of lotion on it.

Ive been thinking to maybe take 1/8ths of finasteride 5 mg tablets every couple of days.

sir chugalot, do you think taking finasteride has blocked your spiritual progress? I know exactly what you mean by chi. I get LOTS of chi by retaining my semen. My eyes go lustrous. I usually get about 5 days up and then have to EJ at this point. At one point in my life i will want to sublimate sexually energy and transmute it into spiritual energy, but if that sexual energy is gone, there wont be nothing to transmute right? Is that the side effect that you are talking about?

Thanks for your post's guys. I appreciate it.

 

[hairflow]

Ok, after taking a stroll over to propeciahelp.com and reading this:


What is the Post-Finasteride Syndrome?

The following outlines the common pattern experienced by those who suffer from this syndrome:



brief resolution of side effects within 10-20 days after quitting Finasteride (as 5AR2 enzyme activity/DHT supposedly "returns" to baseline), followed by

a complete endocrine system crash whereby Testosterone, LH and FSH hormones plummet to hypogonadal levels within weeks/months of discontinuation, along with numerous other imbalances such as elevated estradiaol, TSH, Prolactin, SHBG; below range 3a-diol-G levels; below range Vitamin D levels, followed by

simultaneous & rapid emergence of a commonly shared hypogonadal symptomatic profile, followed by

ongoing, irreversible, persistent side effects with little to variable symptomatic improvement -- even years after quitting

attempts to restore androgen levels/androgenic response in a number of ex-Finasteride users (via drugs such as clomiphene citrate, human chorionic gonadotropin, Testosterone replacement therapy, estrogen/prolactin/TSH management protocols etc) often meet with little to variable longterm success

in some men, supraphysiological dosages of androgen such as Testosterone (androgel, cypionates) and DHT (andactrim gel, proviron oral DHT, masteron propionate) typically only provide a variable or brief improvement/response -- often followed by a return to baseline or worsening of hypogonadal symptoms once again within hours, days or weeks.

The Post-Finasteride Syndrome is thus a clinical condition of permanent sexual, mental and physical side effects which do not resolve after quitting the drug, most often accompanied by an acquired form of secondary hypogonadism and post-drug loss of androgenic action, which remains variably resistant to hormonal treatments aimed at restoring Testosterone/DHT's effects in the male body to pre-drug virility levels.






Ive decided im not going to screw with this stuff. I would rather be bald than have to deal with all the stuff those guys are going through constantly blood testing themselves etc.

ITS JUST NOT WORTH IT. SIMPLE!

Im going to surrender to a higher power and let him run the show. That's it, that's all.

 

[Wuffer]

hairflow, i'm not trying to be mean here, but you are being completely unreasonable.

You've been on finasteride for 3 years with absolutely no problems. You read horror stories on propeciahelp, then get yourself all worked up and scared. Now you conclude that it's dangerous, even though you have never had a problem on it. You quit propecia and continue to lose your hair.

My advice: Go back on propecia. Don't ever visit propeciahelp again, and don't even read anything about side effects again. If you have been fine on the drug until now, why would it suddenly change overnight because of what you read online?

If you let this stuff scare you and you go off finasteride, you only have yourself to blame when you start losing your hair again.

 

[slurms mackenzie]

Hey guys, thanks for your input. Ive still got hair on my head. Im thinking if i want to keep it, i should probably do something now to maintain it.

Yes you should, if finasteride works for you, you may be a good candidate to try something like topical spironolactone.

Ive been weighing the options over and over again, to start taking finasteride again. Being self concious is a side effect of not having hair. Maybe it'll teach me to love myself more. But on the other hand, i want to be attractive and not thinking about my hairloss every time i look in a mirror.

To worry about hairloss is human, to forget divine!

Personally i'd use the mental tools you're building to help with coping with hair loss, if you can accept that one day you may lose it all and not bother, then for me, that's the mental battle won, it doesn't have to conflict with actually doing something about it.

I can say this now i'm older, when i was in my mid 20's it was a massive deal.

Ive been thinking to maybe take 1/8ths of finasteride 5 mg tablets every couple of days.

sir chugalot, do you think taking finasteride has blocked your spiritual progress? I know exactly what you mean by chi. I get LOTS of chi by retaining my semen. My eyes go lustrous. I usually get about 5 days up and then have to EJ at this point. At one point in my life i will want to sublimate sexually energy and transmute it into spiritual energy, but if that sexual energy is gone, there wont be nothing to transmute right? Is that the side effect that you are talking about?

Thanks for your post's guys. I appreciate it.

I don't think finasteride has blocked my spiritual progress as such, I've been meditating for 20 minutes a day for a year (highly recommended for anyone reading this) , but i can't say it hasn't made me feel different.

But he he yes that is the kind of energy i'm talking about, i guess testosterone puts fire in my belly! Which is why when i tried propecia again a couple of weeks ago i tried supplementing with zinc and drinking chamomile tea, it just doesn't feel the same.

Maybe as I've got older and my hormone levels have changed naturally, propecia is just too much for me.


Wuffer might be right, certainly if you feel no side effects, I guess the answer is to listen to your body.