Woman

[Guest]

Whenever I go down to my local town to shop for something, I will *always* see a few/group of girls who will look at you, like you are being judged by them. It's like they are ‘continuously’ weighing you, 'joe public’ up and are on the look out for their future husband and It never leaves their train of thought.

Compared to us men, they do have it easy. If they are over-weight they can lose that weight, it will just take dedication, but the truth of the matter is, most females are too lazy to do so. 99.99 of them will never know what male pattern baldness feels like and never will. The most they will ever do is patronise you on the subject.

Personally, I have nothing against woman, but what does get my grape is when a girl, who is ‘by far’ unattractive herself, will look at you like you're not supposed to be on this earth. This happens a lot here in England.

Most of them don’t understand what's it's like to be a guy in your early 20's losing his hair. Even the most intelligent of woman will never appreciate the difference it has in ones appearance and why "all of a sudden" he's not as attractive as he once was.

For example, my sister. For the last couple of years she would give me the kind of look as if I'm not supposed top be here. before hairloss she hated my confidence. Now believe me, she’s enjoying the fact that my hair is getting worse. She's 21, 2 years younger then I. She has no real talent, she goes out clubbing like your average youngster and wants to be seen with good looking people - just to make herself look good. She has blonde hair and isn’t ugly by far, but she is very manipulative and
quietly arrogant. All she lives on, is the way she looks. I swear to god, that if she had male pattern baldness she would be taken in for severe depression. This is basically what most 16+ female are like these days.

I remember having an argument with her one day, and one of the things she shouted in her immature temper was "You haven’t got any friends because you're ugly" To me, that just summed it all up - peoples way of thinking. I always remember that because, it was like I was given the answer to what people look for. Especially 17+ females. It was like confirmation in a way.

People, especially girls her age consider looks to be the be all and end all. If you look good, people will want to be your friend and want to be seen with you. If you look good, people talk to you more - even men. It’s fact.

I know this 1st hand. I’ve had experience myself. Two years ago when I had long hair people liked me, all of a sudden you start losing your hair, thus not looking as good you once were = People don't want to know you anymore. It’s harsh but it’s peoples way of thinking.

I swear to all the gods in the sky, that if I had the hair I had 2 years ago, people would treat me 10 times better. Even though I would carry the same facial expression (no signs of depression or anger on face, for example)

The fact is, as I said before, woman want to be seen with good looking people. It's no surprise that when you are at school, you'll usually see all the good looking people hanging about together and all the ‘not so fortunate’ people mixing with one another. Sadly this is carried into adult-hood and into peoples way of thinking.

Woman think it's important to be seen with the right people. Only those who treat you with respect no matter what you or your hair looks like are the ones really worth bothering with. In my experience, that would be no one.

At the end of the day, we all know that woman look for men that ‘look good’. I don't have a percentage but I think that looks would be somewhere over 80%. I'm not buying the personality sh!t anyone goes on about, and never will. Obviously they do play a small part and can only help, but only a minor one compared to a persons appearance.

I’m not here to slate woman, because many if us men are the same. Maybe ‘we’ (I speak as a whole) should practice what we preach too? Who knows.

This isn’t a bitter rant because I'm not with some hot girl because of my hairloss - it's basically what I see and have experienced. It's obvious what woman look for and they are on the prowl for the right man 24/7. Whoever you are, wherever you are - down town shopping in an innocent way - whether you are single or married - you will be weighed up, judged and compared whether you are their ideal partner.

Now I'm not really one to give advice to hairloss sufferers because I'm on the look out for it myself, but if you are finding this hairloss as hard to accept as I am - because of the change of appearance, opportunities etc then concentrate on the one thing you are good at and interests you the most and practice and practice setting yourself targets. For me
personally, this would be playing football. Soccer to Americans. Maybe become stronger psychically by lifting weights in you have them. This would be while you’re waiting for things to work with either with treatments or transplants. Because when you're hairloss problem is sorted, you'll be complete to what you want to achieve and be better off. Others probably won’t like the change, but you'll have all the confidence in the world and it just wont matter.

 

[Turbo]

I know this 1st hand. I’ve had experience myself. Two years ago when I had long hair people liked me, all of a sudden you start losing your hair, thus not looking as good you once were = People don't want to know you anymore. It’s harsh but it’s peoples way of thinking

Nahh m8 you have become obessesed with the idea you are now unnatractive because your losing your hair, you probably have less friends now because you have zero confidence and are no fun to be around.

I know plenty of people who are alot balder then me, but it dosnt bother them and because of their confidence people see that more than anything else. lets face it how many girls you see trying to get in with the bouncers.....theyre usually fat bald men! but they talk the talk and walk the walk :lol: if you know what i mean!

If your bald then yes first impressions can be hard but if your full of confidence people will notice that more

I was having a chat with one of my gf's m8s the other day while watching "have i got news for you" and she said aww i love that ian hislop (completely bald!) hes such a laugh

no sh*t! :freaked:

Anyway i think the biggest problem on here whether we all like to admit it or not is were all a bunch of vain buggers! Totaly obsessed with hair loss!

so im off to the mirror to tell myself how good i look today Confidence is the key, dont let this thing ruin your life lads.

 

[Axon]

Of course women always judge, that's how they are! Men are the same way, we're just a little more upfront about it. It's like "When Harry met Sally" - there will always, always be that sexual element. And yes, no matter HOW busted they may be, they'll always be judging.

Women judge you because they are incredibly insecure. I have only met one or two women who are truly comfortable in their skin. Most just b**ch about how they don't want you to see them unless they're wearing their special jeans that make their butt look like stone and the lighting in the room is ambient.

I know two girls who are engaged and they remove their rings before they go into a bar or a club just so they can get hit on. They lack any true form of self-confidence, they need the CONSTANT validation to feel good about themselves. All they have is their sexuality, neither is particuarly talented. They crave that sh*t like a vampire craves blood - when no other men are around, they'll start flirting with me because they truly need Male attention at ALL times. Hardcore sh*t too, one will sit on my lap and ask "did you ever think about f*****g me?" Get outta here. She's not interested, she just wants to know because it gives her a feeling of control.

Further, What they don't realize is that Men don't give a f***; a woman could put her wedding ring on their forehead while they were doing it, and the man would find it funny.

I seriously think you're making too much of your hairloss. I know it's hard, but listen to the bitterness in your tone here. Don't let it control you, and don't, fer chrissakes, worry about your sister and how people react to her. She's a chick, it's different.

Sometimes I feel unattractive as well, but you can't let it consume you. I've seen your head, and I know you could be doing better. However, if it does bug you that much, start looking into an hair transplant.

I know how it is, I used to have such terrible acne...I wouldn't even leave my house. But one day, I decided to stop bitching and start fixing it. It took a lot of work, but in the end, I won out.

 

[ShedMaster]

You know, sometimes the mind is a powerful thing. If you convince yourself that when you walk down the street that all these girls are judging you constantly becuase of your hairloss then try doing the same thing except wear a hat or use toppik and see the reaction is the same.

I used the think the same way but you just have to convince yourself that your perception of circumstances does not always equal reality.

 

[gt1229]

Lighten up bro. Here's my philosophy: good looking people actually get miffed when someone uglier than them has ten times more self-confidence than they do. And it is with that self-confidence that you get ahead in life, you stay focused while they remain trapped in their artificial world.

Start liking yourself. Build up that self-esteem. Have a "screw-em" mentality with the people who are discriminating your looks.

 

[Guest]

I know this 1st hand. I’ve had experience myself. Two years ago when I had long hair people liked me, all of a sudden you start losing your hair, thus not looking as good you once were = People don't want to know you anymore. It’s harsh but it’s peoples way of thinking

I know plenty of people who are alot balder then me, but it dosnt bother them and because of their confidence people see that more than anything else. lets face it how many girls you see trying to get in with the bouncers.....theyre usually fat bald men! but they talk the talk and walk the walk :lol: if you know what i mean!

Yes, they accept they are the laughing stock thus having to try harder. He's probably willing to play the clown. No matter what you say, they are being laughed 'at', not 'with'.

I was having a chat with one of my gf's m8s the other day while watching "have i got news for you" and she said aww i love that ian hislop (completely bald!) hes such a laugh

Yes, she feels sorry for him. He's a funny looking guy. Their is no way on earth that she would ever go out with him. She was probably saying it like you would to a yorkshire terrior.

Anyway i think the biggest problem on here whether we all like to admit it or not is were all a bunch of vain buggers! Totaly obsessed with hair loss!

Bullsh!t, maybe some are. I'm not. With me, I just can't accept the difference it's made in my apearance, esperically as 2 years ago, in 2001, I had my hair like Cobain and life felt great.

 

[Guest]

I seriously think you're making too much of your hairloss. I know it's hard, but listen to the bitterness in your tone here. Don't let it control you, and don't, fer chrissakes, worry about your sister and how people react to her. She's a chick, it's different.

Sometimes I feel unattractive as well, but you can't let it consume you. I've seen your head, and I know you could be doing better. However, if it does bug you that much, start looking into an hair transplant.

Nice patronising comment. I'm 23, these are supposed to be the better years.

If I was over 30 I wouldnt mind as much, which begs the question - how old are you?

Because if you're over 30, then you're the one taking hairloss more seriously then you should.

 

[Axon]

I was trying to be sympathetic, but whatever. And spell "Patronizing" correctly next time.

I'm 24, so nice completely wrong assumption. Yeah, I know how it is, and no, I don't whine like a b**ch.

I gave you the truth, like it or not. And yeah, it's hard. But you need it tough. Because you're not tough enough on yourself, like so many here. At least not in the right ways. You'd prefer to wallow in self-pity than actually do something. Complaining? That's easy. Hard is change, hard is making things right - with anything in life.

Don't like my comments? Prove me wrong. Get out there and fix it. Rub it in my face. How can you let this thing beat you?

Listen to yourself, man. I'm on your side, like it or not.

 

[Turbo]

M8 with an attitude like yours gunner, nobody is gonna find you attractive, my point is that the only person that looks at you any different is usually yourself.

Your letting your paranoia get out of hand, were all paranoid about what we look like but your classing all women as one type thats just stupid.

Perhaps a little therapy wouldnt go a miss :roll:

 

[Cassin]

I seriously think you're making too much of your hairloss. I know it's hard, but listen to the bitterness in your tone here. Don't let it control you, and don't, fer chrissakes, worry about your sister and how people react to her. She's a chick, it's different.

Sometimes I feel unattractive as well, but you can't let it consume you. I've seen your head, and I know you could be doing better. However, if it does bug you that much, start looking into an hair transplant.

Nice patronising comment. I'm 23, these are supposed to be the better years.

If I was over 30 I wouldnt mind as much, which begs the question - how old are you?

Because if you're over 30, then you're the one taking hairloss more seriously then you should.

I think Axon was trying to help. Not a good idea to slam someone that is trying to help. Your problem is your attitude, not male pattern baldness.

 

[Stinger122]

I seriously think you're making too much of your hairloss. I know it's hard, but listen to the bitterness in your tone here. Don't let it control you, and don't, fer chrissakes, worry about your sister and how people react to her. She's a chick, it's different.

Sometimes I feel unattractive as well, but you can't let it consume you. I've seen your head, and I know you could be doing better. However, if it does bug you that much, start looking into an hair transplant.

Nice patronising comment. I'm 23, these are supposed to be the better years.

If I was over 30 I wouldnt mind as much, which begs the question - how old are you?

Because if you're over 30, then you're the one taking hairloss more seriously then you should.

I read your post gunner and im deeply saddened by it... Im 18 and your 23, age makes no diffrence.. I keep on saying if I was in my mid 20's it'd be better but no, no matter if you started losing it at 40 you will still hate the fact you have male pattern baldness...

The FACT of the matter is, we all care about how we look, especially in todays society.. Its sad I know, but this is the world we live in my friend.

Im just like you, everyday I feel like women look at me thinking 'ewwww' (on my way to college through the city centre) I believe this is what a majority of British women are like, the majority are god damn slappers.. I work in Birmingham Airport and as you can imagine it gets really busy, I see loads of people going in and out but I never see the bald ones with the 'fit' chicks, I hardly even see bald men apart from the oldies.

But what can we do? You know in yourself the answer is nothing.. Make something out of yourself mate, I know its so hard with all these ignorant humans around us but REMEMBER THIS all of us people who are suffering from baldness have learnt one thing, and that is how cruel this world can view us all just for something we do not have on the top of our heads! Sad isnt it? When a cure finally is released for this disease never FORGET the lesson you have learnt, make yourself a better person from all of this crap!

Women do have it easy, I agree with you, all a women would have to do is wear knee high boots and a mini skirt and thats it, she'd get fucked over no problem.

But you can have an enjoyable life even if you are balding, just try and get on with your life, as I said make something out of yourself, go to the gym, keep in shape, try and not think about it..

Hope thats of some help mate, I can relate to you and if you ever do need to speak im here and so are plenty more of us baldies

 

[Guest]

I was trying to be sympathetic, but whatever. And spell "Patronizing" correctly next time.

I'm 24, so nice completely wrong assumption. Yeah, I know how it is, and no, I don't whine like a b**ch.

I gave you the truth, like it or not. And yeah, it's hard. But you need it tough. Because you're not tough enough on yourself, like so many here. At least not in the right ways. You'd prefer to wallow in self-pity than actually do something. Complaining? That's easy. Hard is change, hard is making things right - with anything in life.

Don't like my comments? Prove me wrong. Get out there and fix it. Rub it in my face. How can you let this thing beat you?

Listen to yourself, man. I'm on your side, like it or not.

I'm sure you have whined like a b**ch.

So don't tell me you've just taken it on the chin from the word go.

Anyway, this isnt about me. It's about woman, like the post suggests.

 

[Guest]

Gunner, your fucked with an attitude like that, the people here have given you some support and you have basically told them to stick it up their arses, what was the point in posting in the first place did you want everyone to just say "yeah mate your fucked, go get a wig and some vodka".

confidence is the key as others have said here, I would rather go out socializing brimming over with confidence, outgoing, a real f*****g charmer, centre of attention, than murking around in the corner with my full head of hair and a shitty attitude.

Good luck things will get better, your young, new treatments are being researched as we speak, I have seen your pictures, you look like a f*****g rockstar compared to my more housing benefit cheat/petty criminal looks.

cheer up

Ty

 

[Guest]

I seriously think you're making too much of your hairloss. I know it's hard, but listen to the bitterness in your tone here. Don't let it control you, and don't, fer chrissakes, worry about your sister and how people react to her. She's a chick, it's different.

Sometimes I feel unattractive as well, but you can't let it consume you. I've seen your head, and I know you could be doing better. However, if it does bug you that much, start looking into an hair transplant.

Nice patronising comment. I'm 23, these are supposed to be the better years.

If I was over 30 I wouldnt mind as much, which begs the question - how old are you?

Because if you're over 30, then you're the one taking hairloss more seriously then you should.

I read your post gunner and im deeply saddened by it... Im 18 and your 23, age makes no diffrence.. I keep on saying if I was in my mid 20's it'd be better but no, no matter if you started losing it at 40 you will still hate the fact you have male pattern baldness...

The FACT of the matter is, we all care about how we look, especially in todays society.. Its sad I know, but this is the world we live in my friend.

Im just like you, everyday I feel like women look at me thinking 'ewwww' (on my way to college through the city centre) I believe this is what a majority of British women are like, the majority are god damn slappers.. I work in Birmingham Airport and as you can imagine it gets really busy, I see loads of people going in and out but I never see the bald ones with the 'fit' chicks, I hardly even see bald men apart from the oldies.

But what can we do? You know in yourself the answer is nothing.. Make something out of yourself mate, I know its so hard with all these ignorant humans around us but REMEMBER THIS all of us people who are suffering from baldness have learnt one thing, and that is how cruel this world can view us all just for something we do not have on the top of our heads! Sad isnt it? When a cure finally is released for this disease never FORGET the lesson you have learnt, make yourself a better person from all of this crap!

Women do have it easy, I agree with you, all a women would have to do is wear knee high boots and a mini skirt and thats it, she'd get fucked over no problem.

But you can have an enjoyable life even if you are balding, just try and get on with your life, as I said make something out of yourself, go to the gym, keep in shape, try and not think about it..

Hope thats of some help mate, I can relate to you and if you ever do need to speak im here and so are plenty more of us baldies

Wise words from an 18 year old.

My original post maybe came across more "feeling sorry for myself" then it should have done. I was just tryign to give my view on females our age (18+) and their general way of thinking.

Either way, ta.

Talking of Birmingham. Remember PJ from Big Brother? He was a norwood 7 wasnt he. Yet that Kate Lawler still fancied him.

 

[Axon]

I'm sure you have whined like a b**ch.

So don't tell me you've just taken it on the chin from the word go.

Anyway, this isnt about me. It's about woman, like the post suggests.

Hairloss? Never whined about it. Acne? Yeah, I used to go through some bad mental spots with it, but I learned to adjust, which is why I was able to cope with my hairloss much better than most.

Look, I apologize for my tone, but it's clear you're letting this thing beat you. Don't let it! People are judgemental, women, men, everyone. It's a fact of life, the sky's blue, water's wet, people judge.

Everyone has insecurities and doubts. Everyone. You may be frustrated with women,(we all are) but you cannot deny that that frustration is directly linked to your hairloss. I'm a firm beliver in fixing problems, not being woe-is-me about them! That's what I'm trying to impart here.

I feel the utmost sympathy for you, as you're one the people I actually believe is suffering from the kind of loss that can really depress a person. Not these other guys who post photos showing barely any recession or a .002 mm "bald spot."

I do want to help, and yes, I can be a dick about it, but sometimes you need the whip cracked at you. Sorry if I came across the wrong way.

 

[Stinger122]

Yes they are wise words for an 18 year old, but I hate seeing all these young people make such dicks out of themselves and making this place a fucked up world to live in.

When I look around I see a sex based society, I see people who are obsessed with sex I don't see people who care about how each other feel, you are judged by your looks but there is nothing you can do about it!

It is hard for people at our age mate but what can I say? I wish we didnt have to go through this crap but we are going through it, it isnt simple but as I said before you will realise how humans are a disease to this earth.

Sorry if I sound rather pesemestic, im not upset or anything but just try and concentrate on making this world a better place to live in mate..

Take care I hope I am of some help

P.S Yes, I do remember PJ.. The lucky c***

 

[Guest]

I'm sure you have whined like a b**ch.

So don't tell me you've just taken it on the chin from the word go.

Anyway, this isnt about me. It's about woman, like the post suggests.

Hairloss? Never whined about it. Acne? Yeah, I used to go through some bad mental spots with it, but I learned to adjust, which is why I was able to cope with my hairloss much better than most.

Look, I apologize for my tone, but it's clear you're letting this thing beat you. Don't let it! People are judgemental, women, men, everyone. It's a fact of life, the sky's blue, water's wet, people judge.

Everyone has insecurities and doubts. Everyone. You may be frustrated with women,(we all are) but you cannot deny that that frustration is directly linked to your hairloss. I'm a firm beliver in fixing problems, not being woe-is-me about them! That's what I'm trying to impart here.

I feel the utmost sympathy for you, as you're one the people I actually believe is suffering from the kind of loss that can really depress a person. Not these other guys who post photos showing barely any recession or a .002 mm "bald spot."

I do want to help, and yes, I can be a dick about it, but sometimes you need the whip cracked at you. Sorry if I came across the wrong way.

Espeically as I'm paying £36 a month for propecia which has formed me the start of the horseshoe pattern. £316 at month 7 to lose more hair.

I was better off, between Feb 02-march 03 with only a slow change.

Either way, I'm not looking for sympathy.

It's just a kick in the stomach.

As it is for everyone with male pattern baldness.

 

[Healthy Nick]

The only solution dude is to lift weights and get in amazing shape. that will give you the confidence you need to attract chicks.

 

[THOR]

I was trying to be sympathetic, but whatever. And spell "Patronizing" correctly next time.

Hey Axon, I don't want to "major in minors" but "Patronising" is indeed spelled correclty (UK English). This is one of the differences between UK and US English (S instead of Z).

So please don't slam the "blokes" from "over there" for using what is correct in thier country :adminfinger:

Peace//Thor

 

[Rubber Baby Buggy]

Oh how I wish I was 30, married, and in debt up to my eyes. :uglylol: :uglylol: :uglylol: