Why Tricomin is best before Minoxidil:

[CCS]

Suppose you can't afford both Tricomin and Minoxidil, or you don't have the discipline or time to apply both. Which should you pick? Here is my answer:

After DHT sets off its pathway, you eventually get scaring around the follicle, which limits how big it can get even with minoxidil.

Tricomin may reverse that scaring. Depending on your genes, new scaring may out pace the repair of Tricomin. But right now it, or maybe curcumin, is our best way of reversing that scaring. Only when the scaring is reversed can Minoxidil regrow your hair the thickest.

So using both is best. But minoxidil does not slow the balding process. Thus it is far better to use Tricomin and Propecia for a year, followed by Minoxidil and Propecia for a year, than to do the Minoxidil first.

I am doing both, but I'm emphasizing the copper peptides now, and will raise the minoxidil dose later. I can't afford to keep up the copper peptides forever, but I don't have to. They are most important in the beginning because of how they work.

 

[blaze]

what about prox-n?

proctor said that SOD's reverse scarring of the follicle.

 

[CCS]

SOD's do. I don't know what kind he uses. LifeExtension.org trusts Proctor, or at least they advertise for him. I don't. Bryan trusts him. Beaner does not. I mailed Bryan my Prox-N a long time ago after I stopped trusting Proctor. Bryan thanked me for the Prox-N.

I know there is a 32000 dalton SOD that is probably way to big to get to the follicle. There are also much smaller copper peptides and anti-oxidants. Who knows what Proctor uses.

I'm starting to think that any anti-oxidant topical will reverse scaring, but I'll use Tricomin as well just to be safe. At least for a good year.

 

[patagonia]

CCS, what is your opinion on Folligen?

 

[blaze]

SOD's do. I don't know what kind he uses. LifeExtension.org trusts Proctor, or at least they advertise for him. I don't. Bryan trusts him. Beaner does not. I mailed Bryan my Prox-N a long time ago after I stopped trusting Proctor. Bryan thanked me for the Prox-N.

I know there is a 32000 dalton SOD that is probably way to big to get to the follicle. There are also much smaller copper peptides and anti-oxidants. Who knows what Proctor uses.

I'm starting to think that any anti-oxidant topical will reverse scaring, but I'll use Tricomin as well just to be safe. At least for a good year.

Prox-N uses SOD mimetics. So they will penetrate the scalp. Plus Prox-N also has copper peptides.

Tricomin does not use the amount used in the trials that yielded results similar to that of 2% minoxidil. They think an enhanced delivery system can somehow make up for less of the copper peptide. Not to sure about that. That too many people have success with tricomin like they do with minoxidil.

Plus tricomin must use so little copper peptide that they have to dye their topical blue. Those copper peptides are naturally a strong hue of blue. Tricomin has blue color additive in the ingredients list.

I have been thinking about this angle too CCS. Maybe adding a derma roller well also help get the CP's into the scalp more easily.

If your insistent upon using tricomin I would try and use it 2-3 times per day.

 

[JWM]

I have used all three at different times for extended periods. I got the best results with Folligen.

 

[Nene]

I have used all three at different times for extended periods. I got the best results with Folligen.

Folligen is a type of copper peptide? How much does it go for and where do you get it? Is it also supposed to reverse scaring?

 

[JWM]

I have used all three at different times for extended periods. I got the best results with Folligen.

Folligen is a type of copper peptide? How much does it go for and where do you get it? Is it also supposed to reverse scaring?

Check out www.skinbiology.com. And yes to all your questions.

 

[Bryan]

Prox-N uses SOD mimetics. So they will penetrate the scalp. Plus Prox-N also has copper peptides.

_All_ copper-peptides are SOD mimetics.

Plus tricomin must use so little copper peptide that they have to dye their topical blue. Those copper peptides are naturally a strong hue of blue. Tricomin has blue color additive in the ingredients list.

Yes, but it's only fair to point out that the specific copper-peptide used in Tricomin is a lot more effective (on a gram-for-gram basis) than the mixture of completely random copper-peptides used in Folligen!

 

[Bryan]

Is it also supposed to reverse scaring?

Nope, it still scares me quite a bit!

 

[Nene]

Is it also supposed to reverse scaring?

Nope, it still scares me quite a bit!

Yes, Yes haha very funny. Where do you buy tricomin from CCS? or anyone?

 

[Nene]

I have used all three at different times for extended periods. I got the best results with Folligen.

That site looks a bit shady. Anyone buy from amazon or folica.com?

 

[Nene]

bump

 

[Nene]

I have used all three at different times for extended periods. I got the best results with Folligen.

That site looks a bit shady. Anyone buy from amazon or folica.com?

I got mine through this site! I have seen pros and cons for both Tricomin and Folligen so what I decided to do is get both. I use them each 1 x per day. The Tricomin in the morning and the Folligen at night. The Folligen I purchased is a blue/green (I read that it can stain so that is why I have used it at night but haven't experienced any staining yet) They also make a version for blonds (not on this site) that is clear which I will get next time. I'm using these for two months to help the follicle scaring before I add Rogain foam to my regimen (shout out to CCS for that advice)

Yeah, good advice from CCS, although I wouldn't follow his advice on women. I just got a bottle of folligen from folica.com which ended up being a little cheaper than from skin biology and also super fast shipping. I think I'll use it once a day or eod. I have some velus hairs on my juvenile hairline and also some weak looking terminal hair in the Norwood 3 region particularly on my right side. The big 3 have helped me maintain but nothing seems to have reversed the miniaturization. I'm hoping the folligen will reduce scarring and help the min and finasteride bring those old follicles back to life. There was a time when rogaine gave me a norwood 1 but after I took a break from min nothing has been able to grow my norwood 1 back. I'm hoping copper peptides are that little something extra that can help.

 

[blaze]

How long a break from minoxidil are you talking?