When you count shower hairs...

[Bone Daddy]

I know, I know.. that "method" for lack of a better word is a somewhat "taboo" practice, like voodoo, incest, and most Fox programming, but I have a few questions.

When you guys count/counted hairs in the shower, how did you keep track?

#1 Hair on your hands? A Macgyver'd setup using duct-tape and pipe cleaners?

#2 Also, how many times did you tend to wash your hair? 7 days a week 4 days a week? When you were out in the vert, when the carwash was around?

#3 What numbers did you consider to be "good"?

#4 How many times do you wash your hair PER shower, as in "Hi I'm bob and I wash with nizoral, then neutragina, then conditoner! I count each time!" In retrospect, Bob is a little too excited.

I have a point to all this, trust me.

 

[Rawbbie]

I personally have plenty of hair coming out when I wash it. More so when I wash it the day after I had spray/gel in it. I've had this situation since my teens when it was a lot worse (and more noticeable because my hair was much longer back then.)

I have never sat down, collected it and counted it, though

Just remember the rule of thumb, 100-150 hairs per day is what every guy loses, regardless of male pattern baldness or not

And yeah I wash mine 6 times a week I'd say

 

[Bone Daddy]

I appreciate the post, but I'm looking for people that have counted.

 

[Bone Daddy]

BUMP

Answer, b****s.. :lol:

 

[phantom2x]

bone daddy, i count my hair but not one by one. i take estimate, like first count the 10 hair and see how thick it looks when it combines ,so base on that you can tell how many hair you shed.

i wash my hair every other two days.

 

[Bone Daddy]

I am just asking because I have read on here several times that the "good responders" shed about 10-15 hairs a shower.

I have been getting a consistant 22-35 per shower, per 2, 3 or 4 times a week. That got me worried.

I then realised today that some people on here take a shower every day, as opposed to my 4 a week. If I showered daily, that would put me in the 10-15 range, and it worked today when I tested it.

I've been having one or two on my pillow as well, but nowhere else since dropping Nizoral. I used it today to test, I now have hairs on my keyboard, lol.

 

[Jaygee]

7 days a week over here. Whatever's on my hands, I stick on the shower wall. When I rinse off (key moment), I block the drain and let it all happen, and pick up anything I can find from the water. Subsequently, anything I find on the towel after rubbing/blow-drying.

Grand total is almost always around 150. (sigh)

Lately I haven't been counting, partly because of everyone here saying it is largely irrelevent, and also because I gotta get at least somewhat of a grip.

 

[Bone Daddy]

Damn, 150 a day?

I count on my hands, I've never scoured the bottom of the shower for runaway hairs. I am interested to see the "actual" number though. I dont use this as an indication of whether or not Im responding. It's just one of the things I'm screwing around with, in trieng to see which things have what effect on my hair.


Maybe I'll macgyver something, see 400 hairs, and never count again.

 

[Mickey]

I wash my hair everyday in the sink the way i count them sounds tedious but when the water has settled i fish the hairs out and stick them to the side of the sink.it takes me a few minutes to do this and on average i end up between 30-40 hairs.

 

[Rawbbie]

This has got to be a joke, lol

There is no way on God's green Earth that people count, one by one, the hairs that fall out from a shower, especially when that is what is SUPPOSED to naturally happen... stick them to the side of the sink... fish them out from the shower floor... collect them... put them in jars... put them under magnifying glasses... gamma ray them....

yes, this is a joke thread...

 

[fallout]

What matters is is regrowth, not daily loss. Im not a shedder in that my daily loss is minimal. 10-15 in the shower. Ive never has any sudden increase or decrease upon the start or end of a treatment program. when I stipped minoxidil after 7 years, there was no dramatic change. That was five years ago. What if I had a net loss of 10 hairs a day, each day for th last five years. Thats nearly 10000 hairs, a fairly significant amount. I wash every day, sometimes twice if I work out in the pm.

 

[Rawbbie]

If the actual numbers are right, it would be normal for a guy to lose 273750 hairs over 5 years. That's a lot of heads of hair.

So why everyone is counting their hairs one by one is a total mystery to me, especially when that is what is SUPPOSED to be happening.



It's kind of like counting every raindrop from the sky, thinking that if they can count more than 7 million in one rainfall then there might be a flood disaster

 

[Bismarck]

It's kind of like counting every raindrop from the sky, thinking that if they can count more than 7 million in one rainfall then there might be a flood disaster

Wise words !

 

[Trent]

here's what i do sometimes, just like every week to get an idea if i'm still "shedding" or what not, but really, only do this if you feel you have to count because otherwise you'll go insane not knowing. again, I recommend NOT counting, like a lot of people have said, its basically pointless. but, for me, i feel its always nice to keep small tabs on to know if the "slowing of hair loss" part of propecia is kicking in. so here's what i do, since i feel it is the most sane way of approaching counting hairs.

i simply wet my hand before i get into the shower (this makes the hair more likely to stick obviously) and run my hands through my hair really slowly almost trying to pick up hairs. Usually i get like one or two when i do this. I do it before showering cause i figure, showering gets rid of a lot of them, and the most amount of "loose" hairs will be there right on my head right before a shower (i.e. 24 hours from my last shower). If i see a ton in there, i usually get a little worried and kinda monitor things more closely to see if i'm in a "shed" otherwise i don't count again for a week or so. Its probably dumb and pointless, and would definitely seem insane to a non-male pattern baldness guy, but hey, i want to know if propecia is slowing my hairloss!

i wash my hair everyday for sure.

 

[not me!]

Guys, damn.

Ok, look at it this way:

I KNOW that at least SOME of you have taken a shower with a woman before. If you haven't then you have AT LEAST been in a bathroom where one has showered.

Have you ever noticed the amount of long hairs that can be stuck on the shower wall? I can remember one of my exes that had beautiful blonde hair but she "shed" like a shaven wookie everytime we showered together (which was almost daily).

The more you pay attention to the petty sh*t, the more youre going to lose sight of the big picture, freak out over your regimen (and change it unnecessarily), and wear yourselves down.

Oh, and by the way, I would shower with a woman when I was a NW4 (before my hair transplant and the use of medication). Know what I did to keep her from staring obscenely at my hair line? I kept all the attention on THEIR bodies - mine and hers . I was a NW3 with severre temporal recession at 21 but that didnt stop me. Yeah, it messed with me but not enough to stop trying to get some ***.

Im not trying to lecture, but some of you guys sound like youre constantly being coaxed off the edge of a cliff sometimes. (I know you started this thread, Bonedaddy but that doesnt include you, bud)

Just take a breath, approach the situation objectively, and fight it with all you've got - but keep your goddamn wits about you and DON'T let some fallen hairs ruin your life.


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[blue]

"The more you pay attention to the petty sh*t, the more youre going to lose sight of the big picture"

Social Drinker in that one sentence you seriouslly solved 90% of the problems we all face in life.

 

[The Gardener]

Counting hairs is not a constructive habit, in my opinion. Even if you were able to scientifically count the shed hairs, the sample sizes you are taking of the shed activity are not large enough to give you a good picture of what is actually going on with your scalp. In fact, it is probably a very skewed picture.

Let me explain. Let's say that the average NON-male pattern baldness person looses 100 hairs per day. And, lets say for simplicity's sake that there are 30 days in each month. This means that the average non-male pattern baldness person looses 3000 hairs per month. So, one could conclude from this that a hair shed 'record' that a non-male pattern baldness person would keep would look something like this:

Month: # of hairs shed:
Jan 3010
Feb 2905
Mar 2904
Apr 3048
May 3012
Jun 3065
Jul 2945
Aug 2870
Sept 2932
Oct 3022
Nov 3015
Dec 3002

However, in actuality, a more REALISTIC record of a non-male pattern baldness person's shed hairs is probably a lot closer to this:

Jan 2845
Feb 920
Mar 915
Apr 3600
May 5500
Jun 4700
Jul 900
Aug 912
Sep 850
Oct 1450
Nov 5200
Dec 3200

Human hairs do NOT shed in a regular pattern over one month. Hair has a strange tendency to go through sheds in distinct shed events over the course of an entire year. So, trying to take a 'daily sampling' and making any kind of conclusion of the rate of hairloss is not at all accurate.

 

[Jaygee]

I dunno know, though....I've stopped counting them every day, but when I did it was always around 150 from the shower, almost without variation, every day. That seems pretty consistent to me. I realized there's a large possibility of error in trying to count hairs this way, but the fact is that I kept coming up with the same amount.

 

[johnogroats]

I wash my hair in the sink every third day.

I normally see 4 or 5 strong hairs and say 7 or 8 weaker ones. I must catch every one as I prowl thoroughly through the water for them. Sounds fantastic when compared to some people but I think I'm still receding :cry: .

 

[jimmystanley]

man, if you're only counting the hairs on your hands...your in for a big surprise if u put a strainer on the drain.