Weightlifting and Hairloss (and some other questions)

ace77

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Hi guys, hows it going. Let me give some background - I am 32, a few weeks shy of 33, and have been losing hair in one way or another since age 21. I first started with a receding hairline, which was not good because I have a high hairline from birth. Mercifully the process was slow and I was able to wear my hair back till about age 26 or and as long as I used gel and combed it cleverly I was not showing much noticible hair loss except for the high forehead. Around age 27 I started cutting my hair shorter and using propecia (1MG), which I guess helped because I didn't see too much significant loss. Last year I started using Nizoral, which helped a little, but I can't be sure how much.

Since about age 26 I have worked out with weights - nothing to level of being competitive, but definitely a bit more seriously than your average guy that goes to the gym a few times a week. (I want to be clear that I have never used steriods, the illegal versions, or "legal" anabolic kinds that are available.) I have used glutamine, creatine and natural whey protein along the way on and off.

This summer, however, I decied to step it up a bit and work out even harder. I got some supplements by BSN called NO-Xplode (pre-workout) and CellMass (post workout) which are creatine based. I used the NO-Xplode regularly and the CellMass sparingly. Ingredients here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html. Oh, and although I didn't gain a whole lot of weight (10-15 lbs) I definiately got very built up in the upper body, more so than every. I peaked at about 190 lbs.

Anyway, I kept up my regimen for about 4 months through August when I started noticing that I had a lot of hair falling out in the shower. I was not necessarily getting my hair wet in the shower every day, but on the days I did I noticed sometimes 50-100 hairs coming out in the front, which in usually more than I've noticed in the past. I have been off the NO-Xplode and working out sparingly for the last 2 months, and I really haven't seen a major slowdown in loss. The scary thing is I am starting to look different with the same haircut and style (I wear my hair forward at about 2-3 inches lenghts, buzzed on the sides and back, with a paste called Aquage Transforming Paste) over a very short period of time. I am baffled at the sudden rapid increase in shedding and I wonder if its just natural due to time/age or due to the weightlifting/supplement. As a side note, I should mention that my brother (same mom, different dad) is basically a NW5 at age 25. I would estimate I am NW3, but I look more like NW1.5 or 2 with my hair short and worn forward. I really don't care how stylish I look, but I want to avoid the obvious thin in front look (as we all do) and I don't want to completely buzz my head if it's not necessary.

My questions are:

Could this be a result of simply the increased weightlifting, or due to the NO-Xplode, or a combination of both with increased testosterone levels?

Shouldn't my propecia counteract the effects of increased testosterone (hence, increased DHT) or is the increased hormone just screwing me up?

I still have no noticable hair loss in back, but thinness seems to be occuring at the temples and in front, mostly at the widow's peak (where I can least afford it!) I imagine this is a result of male pattern baldness.

Should I stop working out for a while? It would really suck to have to choose between being in shape and having hair. But I am a realist.

Should I consider Avodart over Propecia? Is it any better?

Does anyone know where I can order RU 58841, and if it's any good? Anyone have personal experience with it?

I have some Rogaine but I have never used it. It seems like too much of a pain in the neck, and if thr RU works better, I'd rather order that. Also, I hear Rogaine does not grow hair in front, only in back.

Any other suggestions? I have some Folligen, but I don't really use it.

Thanks,
Ace

marsinaries at gmail dot com

PS - I will take and post pictures if anyone wants to see them.
 

Goingat20

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ace77 said:
Could this be a result of simply the increased weightlifting, or due to the NO-Xplode, or a combination of both with increased testosterone levels?.

I dont think weight lifting can have some effect on your hair. Im currently using no-exlode and havent seen a change in the amount of hair loss. I have read before creatine can have an effect on hair loss, no explode is a form of creatine so it could have some affect on the hair.

ace77 said:
Shouldn't my propecia counteract the effects of increased testosterone (hence, increased DHT) or is the increased hormone just screwing me up?.

Can someone else answer this. My guess is that propecia may help...

ace77 said:
I still have no noticable hair loss in back, but thinness seems to be occuring at the temples and in front, mostly at the widow's peak (where I can least afford it!) I imagine this is a result of male pattern baldness..

Yes...

ace77 said:
Should I stop working out for a while? It would really suck to have to choose between being in shape and having hair. But I am a realist..

No way. Keep pumping, you will regret if you stop because i doubt anyhair will grow back if you stop.

ace77 said:
Should I consider Avodart over Propecia? Is it any better?.

Thats up to you. I reckon you should continue with propecia

ace77 said:
Does anyone know where I can order RU 58841, and if it's any good? Anyone have personal experience with it?.

Private msg collegechemistrystudent. He can help you out...

ace77 said:
I have some Rogaine but I have never used it. It seems like too much of a pain in the neck, and if thr RU works better, I'd rather order that. Also, I hear Rogaine does not grow hair in front, only in back..

RU and Rogain work definately. Both are important when trying to regrow hair. Rogain DOES work on the back, just hasnt been tested

ace77 said:
Any other suggestions? I have some Folligen, but I don't really use it..

Start using foligen for now

marsinaries at gmail dot com

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ace77

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Interestingly, I may have found an answer to my weightlifting/shedding dilemma. Not sure how accurate this article is, but it makes the point that DHT is at its highest levels in the scalp up to 60 minutes after strenuous weight training, and recommends using a DHT cleansing shampoo soon after working out. This could DEFINITELY have been my problem over the summer, because I often didn't wash my hair with my Nioxin sometimes until a day or two after my workouts. This could've resulted in serious DHT buildup on the scalp, in my theory.

Anyone else buying this? Or is this article without merit?

The article is here: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art44576.asp

Thanks,
Ace
 

CCS

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there is no such thing as a DHT clensing shampoo. It is a scam. Don't buy it.


Where you saying your supplement increases DHT, and were you asking if DHT is needed to make muscle? I don't think either is the case. Propecia will keep testosterone from being made into DHT. Some body builders without male pattern baldness take it for that reason.
 

m.gibson

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Reports of creatine causing penis size reduction

Hi

I dont wish to cause an upset but a friend if mine informed me that creatine can cause ur whiner to shrink. Initially i thoght that was total bollocks. So i thougth id chek the net and people have actually had this sideaffect.

I am a keen bodybuilder and have used creatine in the past. Personally i have not had this sideaffect but i feel that i should let you all know as I will never take it again as its simply not worth the risk.

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s.a.f

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Re creatine: No it does'nt! Total bollocks.
 
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