Tricomin or Prox-n ?

[Medium]

Im lookin to add a SOD to my regime and am seekin advice.


Anyone have an opinion as to which is "best"


Tricomin or Prox-n ?

 

[Bryan]

Prox-N.

 

[Jacob]

20+ years Bryan....

There's actually more evidence that Tricomin is the "best"..as it's gone to phase 2 of FDA trials. Nothing at all for Prox. All these years.

 

[UunoTurhapuro]

I don't know about Prox-N but Tricomin contains only 1% copper peptides.

 

[Medium]

Bryan do you know what the copper % is in Prox-n ?

1% doesnt sound too powerful :dunno:

 

[Bryan]

Bryan do you know what the copper % is in Prox-n ?

1% doesnt sound too powerful :dunno:

Nobody knows the percentage of copper-peptide in either Prox-N or Tricomin, although there's been a lot of discussion and speculation about that latter issue, over the years (the previous poster's claim that Tricomin has exactly 1% is nothing but speculation). A further complicating factor is that Prox-N now also contains TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN, which are presumably more effective SODs than copper-peptides. It's impossible to answer these questions with any degree of certainty.

 

[UunoTurhapuro]

Well I received an e-mail from procyte customer services and they did confirm that the copper peptide in Tricomin is only 1%. So it is definitely not speculation.

 

[Jacob]

I don't think it matters much what the % is of either product..when you have one that made it through phase 2 of the FDA trials.. and the other just claims to grow more hair than any other agent out there, with nothing to back that up with.

 

[Bryan]

Well I received an e-mail from procyte customer services and they did confirm that the copper peptide in Tricomin is only 1%. So it is definitely not speculation.

HOLY MACKEREL!!! Did they really tell you that?? When approximately did this email happen? Can you tell us EXACTLY what they said in the text of that email?? :shock:

 

[blaze]

Well I received an e-mail from procyte customer services and they did confirm that the copper peptide in Tricomin is only 1%. So it is definitely not speculation.

HOLY MACKEREL!!! Did they really tell you that?? When approximately did this email happen? Can you tell us EXACTLY what they said in the text of that email?? :shock:

why are you so surprised Bryan. Your hanging your hat on some random guy from a hairloss board who you dont even know, who posted that he contacted procycte and the lady at the desk told him tricomin contained around 2% or something.

So the fact you seem so shocked is both surprising and amusing.

 

[UunoTurhapuro]

Jacob, I'm not comparing the two products as I don't know what's in Prox-N and never have used it. I was clearly surprised by the product manager's admission of Tricomin containing 1% copper peptide




Bryan, I sent an e-mail to their customer services about the change in ingredients listing for the Tricomin. Melissa Knights, product manager, replied about the change in ingredients and confirmed that Tricomin is now paraben free and some surfactants have been changed due to EU regulations. I then asked her whether the concentration of Tricomin is less than 1%. She ignored my first e-mail then I've sent her reminder and she replied "It is 1%". You can e-mail them and ask them yourself, if you don't believe me. This conversation between I and the product manager took place within the last 6 weeks.

 

[Bryan]

why are you so surprised Bryan.

Because this is the FIRST time in all these years of discussing Tricomin on hairloss sites that we've ever had any clear revelation from the company of exactly how much copper-peptide it contains! That's an ASTONISHING turn of events!

Your hanging your hat on some random guy from a hairloss board who you dont even know, who posted that he contacted procycte and the lady at the desk told him tricomin contained around 2% or something.

I don't understand what you're saying. Please explain.

So the fact you seem so shocked is both surprising and amusing.

Why are you "surprised and amused"? I still don't understand.

I'm shocked that it's been YEARS for us to be told exactly how much of the peptide is in Tricomin. Aren't you shocked, too? Aren't you one of those people who has been saying for a long time that the amount in Tricomin is incredibly useless and TINY?? :dunno:

 

[Bryan]

Jacob, I'm not comparing the two products as I don't know what's in Prox-N and never have used it. I was clearly surprised by the product manager's admission of Tricomin containing 1% copper peptide

Me, too. Frankly, I'm flabbergasted that they've finally revealed that information to us!!

Bryan, I sent an e-mail to their customer services about the change in ingredients listing for the Tricomin. Melissa Knights, product manager, replied about the change in ingredients and confirmed that Tricomin is now paraben free and some surfactants have been changed due to EU regulations. I then asked her whether the concentration of Tricomin is less than 1%. She ignored my first e-mail then I've sent her reminder and she replied "It is 1%". You can e-mail them and ask them yourself, if you don't believe me. This conversation between I and the product manager took place within the last 6 weeks.

I don't doubt that that's what she told you; I just hope she was telling you the truth.

 

[blaze]

why are you so surprised Bryan.

Because this is the FIRST time in all these years of discussing Tricomin on hairloss sites that we've ever had any clear revelation from the company of exactly how much copper-peptide it contains! That's an ASTONISHING turn of events!

You have wrote what I quoted of yours below many times Bryan:

I remind everybody of what the woman in the ProCyte office said, when asked about the effectiveness of Tricomin, compared to the effectiveness of the 1.25% and 2.5% solutions that were used in the study. She said that Tricomin was "between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%"

You have been hanging your hat on that for years, claiming that Tricomin contained 2%+ AHK-Cu. Thats why Im surprised at your astonishment over another person from Procyte revealing the AHK-Cu percentage, considering you have been using the above quote of yours as the principal and sole argument over the years that Tricomin has sufficient AHK-Cu.

Your hanging your hat on some random guy from a hairloss board who you dont even know, who posted that he contacted procycte and the lady at the desk told him tricomin contained around 2% or something.

I don't understand what you're saying. Please explain.

Bryan wrote:
I remind everybody of what the woman in the ProCyte office said, when asked about the effectiveness of Tricomin, compared to the effectiveness of the 1.25% and 2.5% solutions that were used in the study. She said that Tricomin was "between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%"

So the fact you seem so shocked is both surprising and amusing.

Why are you "surprised and amused"? I still don't understand.

I'm shocked that it's been YEARS for us to be told exactly how much of the peptide is in Tricomin. Aren't you shocked, too? Aren't you one of those people who has been saying for a long time that the amount in Tricomin is incredibly useless and TINY?? :dunno:

Im not shocked Bryan. Its been obvious that tricomin doesnt contain even close to 2.5% AHK-Cu. Im shocked that your shocked. Because as I said above you have been hanging your hat on what you wrote above. Apparently according to you the lady at Procyte office has already disclosed the percentage which is: "the woman in the ProCyte office said, ...that Tricomin was "between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%".

So again Bryan, why are you shocked when according to you, Procyte already has revealed the concentration? Which is close to 2.5%.

 

[Bryan]

You have wrote what I quoted of yours below many times Bryan:

I remind everybody of what the woman in the ProCyte office said, when asked about the effectiveness of Tricomin, compared to the effectiveness of the 1.25% and 2.5% solutions that were used in the study. She said that Tricomin was "between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%"

You have been hanging your hat on that for years, claiming that Tricomin contained 2%+ AHK-Cu. Thats why Im surprised at your astonishment over another person from Procyte revealing the AHK-Cu percentage, considering you have been using the above quote of yours as the principal and sole argument over the years that Tricomin has sufficient AHK-Cu.

You've been mis-remembering (or misquoting) what I've said over the years. As I clearly indicated in that passage of mine above that you quoted in italics, I was referring to the overall effectiveness of Tricomin, not the actual percentage of copper-peptide that it contains. I admit that I had slightly mis-remembered myself what the woman in the ProCyte office had said about the effectiveness of Tricomin in an old alt.baldspot post from years ago, but I corrected that error of mine a long time ago (years ago), and have been stating it correctly ever since. That's more than YOU have been doing!

So the fact you seem so shocked is both surprising and amusing.

Why are you "surprised and amused"? I still don't understand.

I'm shocked that it's been YEARS for us to be told exactly how much of the peptide is in Tricomin. Aren't you shocked, too? Aren't you one of those people who has been saying for a long time that the amount in Tricomin is incredibly useless and TINY?? :dunno:

Im not shocked Bryan. Its been obvious that tricomin doesnt contain even close to 2.5% AHK-Cu. Im shocked that your shocked.

Huh??? They've revealed that the percentage is 1%, which is better than "not even close" to 2.5%. Aren't you the guy who's been saying that the amount in Tricomin is so ludicrously low, it's about like comparing a drop of water to what's in a swimming pool? Or am I confusing you with what other people have written?

Because as I said above you have been hanging your hat on what you wrote above. Apparently according to you the lady at Procyte office has already disclosed the percentage which is: "the woman in the ProCyte office said, ...that Tricomin was "between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%".

So again Bryan, why are you shocked when according to you, Procyte already has revealed the concentration? Which is close to 2.5%.

Once again, read what I just got through telling you: in all these years, ProCyte has NEVER revealed the true amount of copper-peptide in Tricomin, until this very moment (just recently) when they revealed it to that other poster. They said several years ago the the overall EFFECTIVENESS of Tricomin is reasonably close to what was used in the 2.5% solution, which is what I've mentioned a number of times over the years. I hope you finally understand now what I've been saying.

 

[blaze]

Aren't you the guy who's been saying that the amount in Tricomin is so ludicrously low, it's about like comparing a drop of water to what's in a swimming pool? Or am I confusing you with what other people have written?

No I never said that.

The fact is Bryan you have been saying this for years: I'll repeat what I said before: we've already been told by someone working for ProCyte that the concentration in Tricomin is about 2%.

I have seen you staunchly defend tricomin as to containing ~2% AHK-Cu. All I can go on is what I have read you say.

I have always been of the opinion that Tricomin isnt close to 2.5%, which is what is necessary for results. 1% is not effective for hairloss and is 2.5 times less than what is required. When dealing with drugs and things of a therapeutic nature that can be a lot. It can be the difference between something working well and not at all.

Does not surprise me no one has seen any results with Tricomin.

 

[Bryan]

The fact is Bryan you have been saying this for years: I'll repeat what I said before: we've already been told by someone working for ProCyte that the concentration in Tricomin is about 2%.

LOL!! You made an important change to the text of mine that you had reported earlier!

Here's what I've been saying now for some years (which you've previously correctly reported): "I remind everybody of what the woman in the ProCyte office said, when asked about the effectiveness of Tricomin, compared to the effectiveness of the 1.25% and 2.5% solutions that were used in the study. She said that Tricomin was 'between the 1.25% and 2.5%, but closer to the 2.5%' ".

I have seen you staunchly defend tricomin as to containing ~2% AHK-Cu. All I can go on is what I have read you say.

You're WAAAAY behind the times. I only made that mistake a long time ago (a few years ago), then realized my error, and corrected my mistake. I've been saying it correctly, ever since.

I have always been of the opinion that Tricomin isnt close to 2.5%, which is what is necessary for results. 1% is not effective for hairloss and is 2.5 times less than what is required. When dealing with drugs and things of a therapeutic nature that can be a lot. It can be the difference between something working well and not at all.

Okay, no problem. If you don't believe what ProCyte or that woman said, that's your own choice to make. I tend to believe what they said in my (corrected) post above, near the beginning.

 

[Medium]

Glad you guys are havin fun LOL


Bryan, would you say that if true it is indeed 1%~ then Tricomin is not worth the time money or effort for effectiveness (if for a better way of saying it) ?

 

[PELAT]

Bryan again STOP SPAM :thumbdown2:

 

[Bryan]

Bryan, would you say that if true it is indeed 1%~ then Tricomin is not worth the time money or effort for effectiveness (if for a better way of saying it) ?

I'm honestly not sure how to answer that. If given a simple choice between Tricomin and Prox-N, I'd still choose Prox-N over Tricomin. I'm pretty sure that Prox-N's multiple SODs are more effective as a whole than Tricomin's single copper-peptide.