time for one more product then its hair transplant

Hans Gruber

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ok,been on big three for a year,its going pretty well,but i want to add a copper peptide over the next few months before i eventually get my temples filled in ,the big three is helping them but im looking into a hair transplant quite seriously

but before all that,anyone that uses a copper peptide please let me know which i should use

american revitalise? folligen?revivogen? any others?

also how much are they and how long does each one last when following the proper instructions?

thanks :hairy:
 

Aplunk1

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Hey Libertine,

how about posting some pics of the Norwood?

What Norwood are you now?

Also, what doctor are you considering?

I'm thinking about seeing Armani.



Let's see, of the three popular copper peptides (Tricomin, AC Revitalize, Folligen), the best, yea, the priciest, is Tricomin.

But, my personal favorite, because it's much cheaper and smells great, is AC Revitalize.

Check out the hairlosstalk store @ http://www.hairlosstalk.com/shop/catalog/default.php

It has the best prices for Tricomin.
 

Hans Gruber

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hey aplunk,thanks for the reply,i think it was one of your posts about peptides that got me thinking about them

i think i'll def check out the AC

im basically a nw2 with miniaturisation in the crown the proscar/fincar is definitely turning that around pretty well,its basically my temples are pretty high,and i wouldnt mind thickening up the hairline too

i got a quote from armani over a year ago and he said 3500-4000 grafts,but i think im gonna need half that cos the proscar/fincar is definitely doing its job and more for the crown,sorry i havent any pics,ive managed to train my eye pretty well and i can tell quite accurately my progress.

ive seen your pictures and im pretty much the same as you except id say your front is better than mine

oh yea and im gonna go with Armani cos im looking for a really good and yep aggressive hairline (not ridiculous though) and i think he is prob the best for hairlines :hairy:
 

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A small bald spot is characterful, as long as you have some on top. Don't spend all your money trying to fill in the more shiny bits. Perfectionism is like collecting sports cards, there aren't never enough spooks to fill a haunted house.
Boru
 

LookingGood!

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I like the way tricomin leaves my hair alittle better than AC revitalize but AC revitalize smells so good, like I just left the barber's shop.

Tricomin since 1/06
 

Hans Gruber

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Boru said:
A small bald spot is characterful, as long as you have some on top. Don't spend all your money trying to fill in the more shiny bits. Perfectionism is like collecting sports cards, there aren't never enough spooks to fill a haunted house.
Boru

i understand what ya saying ,its just id like the hairline to be somewhat straight and just a tiny bit lower so i can actually style the front,just a little to frame my face,then my slightly bent nose will add that all important character
 

LookingGood!

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Aplunk1 said:
Hey Libertine,

how about posting some pics of the Norwood?

What Norwood are you now?

Also, what doctor are you considering?

I'm thinking about seeing Armani.





Let's see, of the three popular copper peptides (Tricomin, AC Revitalize, Folligen), the best, yea, the priciest, is Tricomin.

But, my personal favorite, because it's much cheaper and smells great, is AC Revitalize.

Check out the hairlosstalk store @ http://www.hairlosstalk.com/shop/catalog/default.php

It has the best prices for Tricomin.



Dude I saw ur pix! What the f*** would u want to go to Armani and dense pack the sh*t out of the frontal 1/3rd of your head at this age? What if you go bald behind it? your donor region is a finite resource and you may need it in the future!
dont even think about it yet.
 

Aplunk1

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LookingGood! said:
Dude I saw ur pix! What the f*** would u want to go to Armani and dense pack the $#iT out of the frontal 1/3rd of your head at this age? What if you go bald behind it? your donor region is a finite resource and you may need it in the future!
dont even think about it yet.

Sheez, calm down, man.

Okay, I've sent Armani a number of pics, and my graft quote was something around 2600/2700 fu in Zone 1, or the frontal 1/3.

I can reasonably anticipate to eventually recede to a Norwood 4 or 5, but many decades from now.

If I get 2700 into my hairline and temples, I will have a solid, dense, perfect hairline through the rest of my 20's and 30's, and after. NOW is when I'd like to enjoy my hair.

The meds are maintaining my hair VERY well, and I've had significant regrowth.

I can expect a few more touchups with Armani a few years down the road.

With current technology, and the strong liklihood that new treatments will be released, I can reasonably have a full head of hair, via transplantation. I also have perfect hair characteristics for a transplant: wavy, curly, course, and dense donor.

Sorry to hijack this thread, Libertine.
 

Hans Gruber

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LookingGood! said:
Aplunk1 said:
Hey Libertine,

how about posting some pics of the Norwood?

What Norwood are you now?

Also, what doctor are you considering?

I'm thinking about seeing Armani.





Let's see, of the three popular copper peptides (Tricomin, AC Revitalize, Folligen), the best, yea, the priciest, is Tricomin.

But, my personal favorite, because it's much cheaper and smells great, is AC Revitalize.

Check out the hairlosstalk store @ http://www.hairlosstalk.com/shop/catalog/default.php

It has the best prices for Tricomin.



Dude I saw ur pix! What the f*** would u want to go to Armani and dense pack the $#iT out of the frontal 1/3rd of your head at this age? What if you go bald behind it? your donor region is a finite resource and you may need it in the future!
dont even think about it yet.


i didnt see where he said he would dense pack the front 1/3? i guess aplunk you just wanna fill in the temples a bit?
 

Aplunk1

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Yeah, I want to completely fill the temples, covering Norwood 1-2.5 ground, and make the hairline more linear/flat.
 

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I saw aplunk1's pics. He does not plan to go to a NW1. He is at about a NW2.5 now, and wants to just fill in a bit at the top get a Norwood 2 or 1.8 or so. I drew a hair line on his pic, and he said it is way too low, even though that is where mine is.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
I saw aplunk1's pics. He does not plan to go to a NW1. He is at about a NW2.5 now, and wants to just fill in a bit at the top get a Norwood 2 or 1.8 or so. I drew a hair line on his pic, and he said it is way too low, even though that is where mine is.

Thanks College,

that's a bit more accurate.

If I were to have a hairline transplant with Armani, it would be with a Norwood 1.5-2, dense hairline. A bit higher, but higher looks a bit better for me.
 

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looking good,
i am in the same boat with libertine,
i am a norwood 3 and i will be getting 100 grafts cm/2
throughout my whole f#$%#$@ head. with limited loss, stopped the loss for now.
Armani believes in dense front and less density as he moves to the back of the head. if my hair goes to s$#% in the future i am going to shave it. i dont care.

by the way, how the da hell to you take all the s@#$ for you hair everyday, seems like it would take you all day to do that, ha ha
 

LookingGood!

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haleystudios said:
looking good,
i am in the same boat with libertine,
i am a norwood 3 and i will be getting 100 grafts cm/2
throughout my whole f#$%#$@ head. with limited loss, stopped the loss for now.
Armani believes in dense front and less density as he moves to the back of the head. if my hair goes to s$#% in the future i am going to shave it. i dont care.

by the way, how the da hell to you take all the s@#$ for you hair everyday, seems like it would take you all day to do that, ha ha


It's really not that much stuff to take but it's working. I have always been health concious. I consulted with Armani 1 yr ago and the rep (jeff) said I needed 2720 to the frontal third. I was floored b/c I didnt think I needed that much then I continued to do more research and realized you DONT need to dense pack that much. You have to lose more than 50% of you original density before you look thin. That's why some of the other hair transplant surgeons like COle, Feller and H/W dense pack at lower densities b/c you can still look natural and not use up too much donor. Your donor is a finite resourse so you need to keep that in mind b/c male pattern baldness is a progressive disease and you dont want to be chasing it forever. FYI I had a shy under 1500 grafts back in July with Dr Cole, FUE not strip. I will post the pics once there is appreciable growth.
HOw old are you? Are u on the meds?

One thing to keep in mind, Armani's website is so inviting. I mean you see those guys and their results and it appeals to your "hair greed" and you want to do it but need to come back to reality and realize you may not need all that and and if you did dense pack there are risks that many of the grafts wont grow due to trauma. RESULTS are not guaranteed.

DO more research! Hope that helps.
 

LookingGood!

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collegechemistrystudent said:
I saw aplunk1's pics. He does not plan to go to a NW1. He is at about a NW2.5 now, and wants to just fill in a bit at the top get a Norwood 2 or 1.8 or so. I drew a hair line on his pic, and he said it is way too low, even though that is where mine is.



Norwood 1.8 is not recgnized by hair transplant surgeons. If he filled in the temples and was a Norwood 2 He would look fine and block out sunlight but I would wait until his hairloss is stabilized. 2720 even 2000 is too much now. If he dense packs and the male pattern baldness progresses he will be in the same boat as you. More smily faces (strip scars) before the age of 25 and more hairloss in the future.
 

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Aplunk1 said:
LookingGood! said:
Dude I saw ur pix! What the f*** would u want to go to Armani and dense pack the $#iT out of the frontal 1/3rd of your head at this age? What if you go bald behind it? your donor region is a finite resource and you may need it in the future!
dont even think about it yet.

Sheez, calm down, man.

Okay, I've sent Armani a number of pics, and my graft quote was something around 2600/2700 fu in Zone 1, or the frontal 1/3.

I can reasonably anticipate to eventually recede to a Norwood 4 or 5, but many decades from now.

If I get 2700 into my hairline and temples, I will have a solid, dense, perfect hairline through the rest of my 20's and 30's, and after. NOW is when I'd like to enjoy my hair.

The meds are maintaining my hair VERY well, and I've had significant regrowth.

I can expect a few more touchups with Armani a few years down the road.

With current technology, and the strong liklihood that new treatments will be released, I can reasonably have a full head of hair, via transplantation. I also have perfect hair characteristics for a transplant: wavy, curly, course, and dense donor.

Sorry to hijack this thread, Libertine.

PLunk, you have the best avatars!
You, libertine and myself all have the same hair loss pattern but I am 40 and stabilized my hair loss thru propecia/minoxidil and nizoral 2%. Will it work for everyone, who knows, probably not. I had a consult with Armani 1 yr ago next week and they quoted me the same amount 2720. They didnt take hair samples or did a donor count like Dr Cole did. You can get away with alot less but just remember you may not be as lucky as I am to slow it down thats why its foolish to get a strip procedure now at ur early age. Saying that ur hair loss wont progress beyond that for decades is pure speculation and you could be up for a rude awakening. You are clearly a Norwood 2 and seem to be responding well to the regimen. I would hate for you to go to Armani and see the hairloss progress beyond the hair transplant hair or progress more. It's not reversible! Who knows, in 10 yrs maybe there will be better drugs and HM. THings have certainly changed in the last 10 yrs.
 

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Aplunk1...after seeing your pics i'm going to have to agree with what looking good has to say. your hair doesn't look bad and quite frankly, i can't see where you would put the transplants. you look very young and should stay on your regimen and stick it out for another 10 years to see where your hairloss goes. who knows, you may keep what you have for the rest of your life. good luck with whatever you choose to do.
 
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