Thinking of trying Aldactone 25mg (oral spironolactone)

[Guest]

Well I just did a shitload of research. It turns out Aldactone is prescribed to women for hair loss or hair gain (facial). Its just a water pill (helps with water retention), it does other things too. Gyno is a COMMON side effect in men so it is rarely prescribed for hair loss treatment but I did find a couple sites saying that Oral Spironolactone for men isn't that bad and can be very helpful to a Finasteride regimen.

I HATE topicals and I am thinking about risking gyno to try this. I might try it for 6 months and then switch to the topical spironolactone or just discontinue spironolactone all together.

I need something for my diffusing and a topical is kind of out of the question.

This sh*t is cheap: under $20 for a 3 month supply (25mg generic Aldactone).

There are some dangers though with Potassium levels, hydration, and some other sh*t.

 

[drinkrum]

Well I just did a shitload of research. It turns out Aldactone is prescribed to women for hair loss or hair gain (facial). Its just a water pill (helps with water retention), it does other things too. Gyno is a COMMON side effect in men so it is rarely prescribed for hair loss treatment but I did find a couple sites saying that Oral Spironolactone for men isn't that bad and can be very helpful to a Finasteride regimen.

I HATE topicals and I am thinking about risking gyno to try this. I might try it for 6 months and then switch to the topical spironolactone or just discontinue spironolactone all together.

I need something for my diffusing and a topical is kind of out of the question.

This sh*t is cheap: under $20 for a 3 month supply (25mg generic Aldactone).

There are some dangers though with Potassium levels, hydration, and some other sh*t.

The dangers you mention are not to be taken lightly. Oral spironolactone is indicated for CHF (congestive heart failure) -- I would be wary to take such a drug. Specifically, potassium levels are very important to the heart and the rest of the body.

Proceed with caution man. Remember, it's just hair.

D.

 

[iamnaked]

Bear in mind that it is a *really* powerful anti androgen which attacks testosterone as well as DHT. You may experience pronounced mental effects as well as tit-growth and things going on with your muscle tone and fat accumulation. I wish you luck with this regime but I think you're crazy!

 

[Trent]

i believe spironolactone is potassium sparing, so you don't have to worry so much about the potassium levels giving you a heart arrythmia, but still.... its a serious drug, its basically the last diuretic of choice for hypertension just because of side effects, including others that you didn't mention. i really wouldn't recommend it orally.

 

[Cornholio]

Spironolactone is a weak diuretic which works by antagonizing aldosterone. Blocking aldosterone allows the kidneys to excrete more water, and retain more potassium. The risk of hyperkalemia (high potassium) will be increased if you have renal insufficiency (kidney weakness), become dehydrated through another illness, or are on ACE inhibitors or ARBS for blood pressure, or are taking NSAIDS (anti-inflammatories like motrin). While the chance of hyperkalemia with low doses of aldactone is reasonably low I dont think I would take it without checking my potassium and renal function initially and periodically....

In a 2 year study of spironolactone's effect on CHF congestive heart failure in older (average age 65) people at 25-50mg/day as tollerated, the risk of breast tenderness OR breast enlargement was about 10%. I believe effects are preventable/ reversible for most people if the drug is stopped in a timely manner. Higher doses may have a higher risk of gynecomastia... and, the risk was said to increase with long-term use (duration of treatment). It is a risk/benefit choice, of course... It would be best if you had a physician to help you monitor for side-effects, but that may be a trick if they do not believe the benefits are worth the risks....

I am considering adding topical spironolactone to my dutasteride/minoxidil for the potential added local benefit of testosterone/dht blockade.. Topical is safe, but effects of topicals for hair loss are not well documented (nor are they for orals...). Sadly, nobody is posting dramatic stories about topical spironolactone. I might become more motivated and try oral spironolactone eventually, with monitoring by a physician, but am not to that point in my treatments yet.

"Gyneco-mastia or breast pain was reported by 10 percent of the men in the spironolactone group and 1 percentof the men in the placebo group (P<0.001)".... Excerpt from this study, which also shows incidence of hyperkalemia... http://www.labiomed.org/cardiology/Jour ... EJM_9-2-99).pdf

 

[Guest]

Your moods about the drug are what I experienced in my research, but I did hear some good things. Very limited, but good things. Does anyone have anything good to say about oral spironolactone, even at loooooowwwww doses?

Great Cornholio, Do you think this drug would be safe if I get all my levels checked? You seem to know a lot about this drug, why aren't you taking it?

 

[Thinning]

I hope you look good as a chick.

 

[Cornholio]

Cornholio- Do you think this drug would be safe if I get all my levels checked? You seem to know a lot about this drug, why aren't you taking it?

Without checking your kidney function and other medications and monitoring your potassium for your personal response it cant be promised that you wouldnt be the one who developed high potassium... Normal potassium levels are critical for heart function, so I personally wouldnt take even a small chance of messing them up (might DIE). That said, if they were monitored, chances are better you would be fine taking them (but I wouldnt take chances not monitoring the blood potassium level). The risk of gynecomastia for those doses is 10%/2 years, but with longer use may go up (accumulate risk)... Whether that is worth it is a personal decision. If caught early it is probably reversible.

Im not taking spironolactone, I just looked the study up. Everyone can know everything, now that we have google :excited: .... For that matter, anyone can act like they know anything and post anything they want... For this issue, I wouldnt do it without a doctor to monitor your potassium and side effects.

PS. Ive always wanted to sleep with someone with a pony-tail and set of perky boobs... with spironolactone I might get to , but it would be me

 

[drinkrum]

Hell, why not just up and castrate yourself. Wouldn't need to about hair loss nor sexual side effects from finasteride ever again! On a serious note, for the life of me, I can't understand why taking oral spironolactone would even be an option. Are you willing to risk so much for, if you're lucky, a few strands of hair on your head?

D.

 

[Cornholio]

Hell, why not just up and castrate yourself.
D.

Geeze, now look what ya' done.. He's thinking about castrating himself!
(See thread called "Im seriously considering castration").

 

[alfonso2501]

not a good idea

I really don’t think it’s a good idea Paradise Lost.