The Gardener's Status Report: minoxidil and 2% spironolactone at Month 4

The Gardener

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Howdy folks. Just thought I would post a little status report to get my results into the mix here.

After 4 months of 5% minoxidil and 3 months of 2% spironolactone topical, I can finally claim some success.

I have a widow's peak-type hairloss pattern. When I started, I was about an Norwood 2.5 who was just going through a shed. I had no loss or thinning in my crown, just the front areas of my head were affected. I had high bald temples, and the area at the top of my head where the temples meet was starting to thin a bit. The very front tuft of hair at the center of my forehead was still thick feeling, but I could tell by the thinning that I was headed towards one of those hairloss patterns where the forehead is receeded all the way up to the center of the head, leaving a tuft in the center middle of the head, kind of Phil Collins-like.

Well, one thing I can definitely claim is that my existing hair recession has been halted. My entire center forehead area of existing hair is now growing long and strong, to the point where I could technically part it which would have been impossible before because the thinning area hair was short, curly, and brittle before treatment. In short, definite, tangible, and visible improvement to existing hair. The proof of it is in the feedback I got yesterday from my a**h** hairstylist (who is actually a good friend of mine, but he always had the habit of bugging me about my hairloss... eh, it's a complicated relationship but he does my hair well) actually told me he thinks my hair is thicker and was impressed. I told him a few months ago I started minoxidil and he himself was curious to its efficacy... well, it was nice to hear him say that.

As for regrowth, here is the situation. My temples are responding, but unevenly. I have a stronger, lower, left temple that has always been a bit less receeded than the right one. This temple is responding very well to the minoxidil/spironolactone. I have actual hairs there, not a lot, but actual hairs over a half inch long that are pigmented and not curly. There are a lot of them in the upper corner of my temple, and as you move down my temple from the corner for about another inch or so there the effect sort of tails off from what looks like actual new baby hair, to what looks to be just stimulated vellous hair. The weaker right temple is showing similar effects, but it seems to be lagging the left by about a month.

Of course, none of this is really making any cosmetic impact in hairline reduction... well, at least YET I hope. The haircount of the new hairs is not enough to actually stand up on its own and are kind of buried under the older, non-receeded hair that falls on top of it when I style my hair. It is not dense enough to actually make a visual impact, at all.

So, at month four, I think I have definitely achieved my goal so far of maintaining my existing NW2.5 for now. As for any norwood improvement, I suppose I will have to wait to see if the regrowth continues and the temple hair haircount gets thick enough for cosmetic improvement. We'll see. I am not holding my breath on that, but I could not be happier about the new thickness of my center forehead area!

Just thought I would share. Cheers gents.

The Gardener
 

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Re: The Gardener's Status Report: minoxidil and 2% spironolactone at Mon

The Gardener said:
Howdy folks. Just thought I would post a little status report to get my results into the mix here.

After 4 months of 5% minoxidil and 3 months of 2% spironolactone topical, I can finally claim some success.

I have a widow's peak-type hairloss pattern. When I started, I was about an Norwood 2.5 who was just going through a shed. I had no loss or thinning in my crown, just the front areas of my head were affected. I had high bald temples, and the area at the top of my head where the temples meet was starting to thin a bit. The very front tuft of hair at the center of my forehead was still thick feeling, but I could tell by the thinning that I was headed towards one of those hairloss patterns where the forehead is receeded all the way up to the center of the head, leaving a tuft in the center middle of the head, kind of Phil Collins-like.

Well, one thing I can definitely claim is that my existing hair recession has been halted. My entire center forehead area of existing hair is now growing long and strong, to the point where I could technically part it which would have been impossible before because the thinning area hair was short, curly, and brittle before treatment. In short, definite, tangible, and visible improvement to existing hair. The proof of it is in the feedback I got yesterday from my a**h** hairstylist (who is actually a good friend of mine, but he always had the habit of bugging me about my hairloss... eh, it's a complicated relationship but he does my hair well) actually told me he thinks my hair is thicker and was impressed. I told him a few months ago I started minoxidil and he himself was curious to its efficacy... well, it was nice to hear him say that.

As for regrowth, here is the situation. My temples are responding, but unevenly. I have a stronger, lower, left temple that has always been a bit less receeded than the right one. This temple is responding very well to the minoxidil/spironolactone. I have actual hairs there, not a lot, but actual hairs over a half inch long that are pigmented and not curly. There are a lot of them in the upper corner of my temple, and as you move down my temple from the corner for about another inch or so there the effect sort of tails off from what looks like actual new baby hair, to what looks to be just stimulated vellous hair. The weaker right temple is showing similar effects, but it seems to be lagging the left by about a month.

Of course, none of this is really making any cosmetic impact in hairline reduction... well, at least YET I hope. The haircount of the new hairs is not enough to actually stand up on its own and are kind of buried under the older, non-receeded hair that falls on top of it when I style my hair. It is not dense enough to actually make a visual impact, at all.

So, at month four, I think I have definitely achieved my goal so far of maintaining my existing NW2.5 for now. As for any norwood improvement, I suppose I will have to wait to see if the regrowth continues and the temple hair haircount gets thick enough for cosmetic improvement. We'll see. I am not holding my breath on that, but I could not be happier about the new thickness of my center forehead area!

Just thought I would share. Cheers gents.

The Gardener



Great post! I'm glad things are looking up for you!
Desar
 

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Gardener -

You should put this in the "Tell Your Story" section and continually update your own personal thread there!

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Jack_the_Lad

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Cool, at least your're been positive about your results and don't expect yoiur hairline to be connected to your eyebrows
 

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Jack_the_Lad said:
Cool, at least your're been positive about your results and don't expect yoiur hairline to be connected to your eyebrows

LOL.... Jack, at first I DID expect that! Well, not right at first. I was initially pretty doubtful when I first started my regime. All I heard was how these treatments don't really work. Well, I actually started seeing some changes at about month 2.5. Lots of new pigmented hair on the temples, and stronger feeling hair on the center-forehead area that was thinning. I think I am one of the lucky ones... and at that point I thought to myself that I'll be David Schwimmer-like by Christmas! LOL, I soon realized that would not be the case. After another month and a half, I am still very content with the effects on my existing hair. In the past, my center forehead hair would start to curl up once it grew beyond an inch. Not anymore. Now it grows a lot straighter and has a consistency more similar to the hair in the unaffected rear areas of my scalp... which really helps with the styling and just gives me slightly less of a 'balding' kind of look. But, on the downside I realize that while the temple situation continues to improve, it is something that won't start making a cosmetic impact any time soon, if at all. But, it is still working, so I am maintaining my patience with the regime.
 

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The Gardener said:
[quote="Jack_the_Lad":273b1]Cool, at least your're been positive about your results and don't expect yoiur hairline to be connected to your eyebrows

LOL.... Jack, at first I DID expect that! Well, not right at first. I was initially pretty doubtful when I first started my regime. All I heard was how these treatments don't really work. Well, I actually started seeing some changes at about month 2.5. Lots of new pigmented hair on the temples, and stronger feeling hair on the center-forehead area that was thinning. I think I am one of the lucky ones... and at that point I thought to myself that I'll be David Schwimmer-like by Christmas! LOL, I soon realized that would not be the case. After another month and a half, I am still very content with the effects on my existing hair. In the past, my center forehead hair would start to curl up once it grew beyond an inch. Not anymore. Now it grows a lot straighter and has a consistency more similar to the hair in the unaffected rear areas of my scalp... which really helps with the styling and just gives me slightly less of a 'balding' kind of look. But, on the downside I realize that while the temple situation continues to improve, it is something that won't start making a cosmetic impact any time soon, if at all. But, it is still working, so I am maintaining my patience with the regime.[/quote:273b1]

david schimmer might have the hairline of a chimp, but I still wouldn't like to be as dopey looking. sounds on the hair, you will probally be pleased by the 1 year mark. I'm noticing a little change on the crown area after month 3, I had alot of stubby little hairs that seem to have kick started back into velinous hairs, I thought these hairs where supposed to shed but they seem to have grown longer. They're still not dark noticable hairs but I'm reasonably confident about some of them becoming cosmetically dark hairs. I might kick start the frount with minoxidil.
 
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