the future..

[skallagrimur]

Since research has led to the conclusion that the reason for Androgenetic Alopecia is dihydrotestosterone (a biologically active metabolite of the hormone testosterone) one would wonder if in the near distant future, a bald man would be considered manly and thus more disireable then a non-bald man..

 

[bigentries]

The real reason is not DHT, but DHT sensitive follicles.

If testosterone was the problem, Lou Ferrigno would be completely bald by this time after years of steroids use, yet he still has a pretty low hairline.

He has had huge amounts of testosterone if his body for years, but his hair is not affected because it's not sensitive to DHT induced damage.

The quantity of testosterone or DHT is not the problem. Some women also get Androgenetic Alopecia

 

[timbo]

There's nothing physically attractive about high levels of testosterone (Unless you want to tape your blood work to your forehead). Hair, on the other hand, is attractive. On top of that, DHT is responsible for secondary sex characteristics such as body hair. We all know that won't help either.

 

[skallagrimur]

The real reason is not DHT, but DHT sensitive follicles.

That means that it is actually the opposite of it. That is, the head of a bald man can't handle DHT. Making him less manly, and thus less appealing.

What a sad state of affairs

 

[bigentries]

There's nothing physically attractive about high levels of testosterone (Unless you want to tape your blood work to your forehead). Hair, on the other hand, is attractive. On top of that, DHT is responsible for secondary sex characteristics such as body hair. We all know that won't help either.

It still amazes me how people can come with this theories.

Humans have never been peacocks or something like that. We are more closer to apes.

Before the sexual revolution (just 50 years ago) if a woman didn't found a man attractive it was the least of concerns to him.

Human history has been based on male domination on women, the only thing men needed during human history to get women has been physical force and later social power.
It has never mattered if you were "cute" or "bald", this are just very recent trends.
Before the creation of civilization, the only thing you needed to get women was high amounts of testosterone in order to grow big enough to subjugate other men.
That's why secondary sex characteristics evolved (some theorize, baldness too). You knew a hairy bald caveman was someone to not mess around, and even if you produced less testosterone, if you were lucky enough to have DHT sensitive follicles, that meant other caveman (and cavewomen) would be fooled by your appearance.

Also, why always apply a Western/White mentality?
Complete Baldness in Black men is seen as the epitome of masculinity
And believe it or not, there are cultures were beardless and hairless men are something to joke about

 

[timbo]

It still amazes me how people can come with this theories.

Here's a thought, before accusing me of ignorance and rudely correcting my point of view, try learning the correct pronoun to put in front of the word "theories."

Humans have never been peacocks or something like that. We are more closer to apes.

Before the sexual revolution (just 50 years ago) if a woman didn't found a man attractive it was the least of concerns to him.

Human history has been based on male domination on women, the only thing men needed during human history to get women has been physical force and later social power.
It has never mattered if you were "cute" or "bald", this are just very recent trends.
Before the creation of civilization, the only thing you needed to get women was high amounts of testosterone in order to grow big enough to subjugate other men.
That's why secondary sex characteristics evolved (some theorize, baldness too). You knew a hairy bald caveman was someone to not mess around, and even if you produced less testosterone, if you were lucky enough to have DHT sensitive follicles, that meant other caveman (and cavewomen) would be fooled by your appearance.

Also, why always apply a Western/White mentality?
Complete Baldness in Black men is seen as the epitome of masculinity
And believe it or not, there are cultures were beardless and hairless men are something to joke about

I don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you really trying to argue that women think it's more attractive to be bald with lots of body and facial hair. :shock: I don't think I'll bother wasting my time...

 

[bigentries]

Here's a thought, before accusing me of ignorance and rudely correcting my point of view, try learning the correct pronoun to put in front of the word "theories."

Oops, sorry, being a non-native English speaker makes you a target to grammer nazis.

I don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you really trying to argue that women think it's more attractive to be bald with lots of body and facial hair. :shock: I don't think I'll bother wasting my time...

Did you even read what I wrote or you just got offended?
Of course being bald and hairy is ugly. TO WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA IN 2010
For the majority of human history, it has never mattered if you were ugly or not. The only thing that mattered was that you could control people in order to get the women, and testosterone used to play a huge role on that. There is a reason why men evolved to be hairy and bald. It was an advantage, NOT TODAY, but several years ago

And another question to you.
Why are so many bald Black men by choice if being bald is ugly?
Have you seen that men grow huge beards and don't shave their body in the Middle East? Why they do it if it's ugly?

 

[timbo]

Oops, sorry, being a non-native English speaker makes you a target to grammer nazis.

If you're going to harshly contradict me on a forum in English, you better at least write it correctly, otherwise you just look like a douche. The funny thing is, my original post is something everyone will agree with. Being bald will not help the lady situation. That's why we're here.

Did you even read what I wrote or you just got offended?
Of course being bald and hairy is ugly. TO WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA IN 2010
For the majority of human history, it has never mattered if you were ugly or not. The only thing that mattered was that you could control people in order to get the women, and testosterone used to play a huge role on that. There is a reason why men evolved to be hairy and bald. It was an advantage, NOT TODAY, but several years ago

Not that this even deserves a response, but baldness isn't only unattractive in the U.S. There are people on these forums from all over the world, even non-western countries. Why would those people be on hair-loss forums if baldness was accepted or even welcomed in their corresponding countries?

And another question to you.
Why are so many bald Black men by choice if being bald is ugly?
Have you seen that men grow huge beards and don't shave their body in the Middle East? Why they do it if it's ugly?

Most black people aren't bald, they have buzz cuts. I don't know why and I don't really care. I suppose their natural, coarse, frizzy hair only leaves them with a few different styles to work with...

Have you seen that men grow huge beards and don't shave their body in the Middle East? Why they do it if it's ugly?

Beards are part of Islam, but that is beside the point. Nobody from the middle-east posts on the HairLossTalk.com forums.

 

[bigentries]

If you're going to harshly contradict me on a forum in English, you better at least write it correctly, otherwise you just look like a douche. The funny thing is, my original post is something everyone will agree with. Being bald will not help the lady situation. That's why we're here.

And the only grammar problem you found in my reply was a word?
Of course it doesn't help in the lady situation. You still don't get my point. I'm not contradicting you.
I'm just showing the harsh reality that is affecting us and it's not related to your post, but sakallgrimur's post.
We are affected by testosterone today, because many years ago, being bald was a sign of good testosterone production.
"The ladies" opinion on a man look's didn't mattered, this is a very new phenomenon

Not that this even deserves a response, but baldness isn't only unattractive in the U.S. There are people on these forums from all over the world, even non-western countries. Why would those people be on hair-loss forums if baldness was accepted or even welcomed in their corresponding countries?

Again, you still don't understand my point. You are just getting offended. My next response addresses this

Most black people aren't bald, they have buzz cuts. I don't know why and I don't really care. I suppose their natural, coarse, frizzy hair only leaves them with a few different styles to work with...

But again, why is such a problem to white people? A lot of black men shave their head with no issues.
It's a cultural issue. White people have made being bald a sign of ugliness, while black people, even by choice have embraced it.
Of course you and I can't fix it, it will take generations for a bald white man to be as indifferent as a black bald man is, but things are changing, older posters will agree that there is a growing acceptance of sly bald heads

Beards are part of Islam, but that is beside the point. Nobody from the middle-east posts on the HairLossTalk.com forums.

Are you ignorant or just plainly racist?
The middle east is not exclusive to Islam. And I've seen at least 2 members from the Middle East around here.

 

[skallagrimur]

Guys, take a chillpill

This threat was a joke. I was hoping for some funny comments. Now let's all cool it. All the animals in the forest are friends..specially the bald ones. They are bold..

 

[cuebald]

Girls my age (mid twenties) mostly dislike the "high testosterone" look - that is, bald, hairy body, etc.
They even dislike the "built/bodybuilder" look, preferring the slimmer toned guys.
You should see the comments they make regarding people with body hair ("eww, disgusting, neanterthal") etc...

go on any bodybuilding forum and you'll hear them complaining that girls only like skinny guys...

I know at age 30+ this all changes, ain't gonna help me for another 6 years though...

 

[bigentries]

go on any bodybuilding forum and you'll hear them complaining that girls only like skinny guys...

I have lurked bodybuilding forums since I was 16 and I think this is the contrary.
Most people on bodybuilding forums can't grasp the concept that big muscles might seem hideous to some women.
They are like sly bald guys. To them, everyone looks great the bigger they are and every women drools at big muscles

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Women want "big" guys but not to the extent of enormous. Find the perfect weight for your height. I'm 6'2, my natural weight is 140...I'm very skinny. But, I started going to the gym and eating a lot and I am up to 160, I can already tell I'm getting a few more glances than I was. I'll look a lot better once I'm around 180-185 and getting a lot more looks from girls. I could probably keep this up to about 200 pounds, after that, it's diminishing returns.

Basically, women don't really know what they want, so don't listen to what they say. You guys should read this guy's site:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/