"Stable" spironolactone 5% solution

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Hello my fellow balding friends, this is an update to all those interested in the spironolactone 5% solution that is being sold at http://www.cemproducts.com

After tons of talking and snooping around forum to forum, the spironolactone 5% solution is some good sh*t!!!
I talked to another guy yesterday whom uses this stuff and he says that is is stable and as a matter of fact he has a bottle of it at home that is 9 months old and it is still clear. The chemists at CEM know what they are doing and are very good at it.
He even gave me the ingredients which are the following : poly propylene glycol, ethyl alcohol, distilled water, and of course spironolactone.
By looking at the ingredients, most would think that it is not enough to have a stable solution, but according to the users, it is stable and the ingredients do not separate. Maybe perhaps the chemists have a secret or something that they use to give it this end result. Bryan........Dave 001........what do you think? :?

 

[global]

It would be interesting to know what Dr Lee thinks about the possibilty of a 5% liquid solution as opposed to a cream.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

It would be interesting to know what Dr Lee thinks about the possibilty of a 5% liquid solution as opposed to a cream.

Yeah if someone would email him about it and give him a link, I wonder what his reply would be

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Hell, he may not even reply.

 

[blaze]

Appreciate all the work dice, I am very keen on getting some off this Spiro5%, just want to make sure its legit.

I still dont see how it can be a 5% solution using only PPG and Alcohol. I was reading some stuff over at HLH the other day and both Bryan and Dave said it only dissloved to about 1.5% in straight alcohol and PPG would help get it to 2%.

So unless they have a 'secret method' to obtain a 5% solution, then I dont know.

As far as dr. Lee is concerned, it probably would be a waste of time asking him. He is a good man and all, but I hardly think he is going to respond favorably about a rival product that would potentialy steal a portion of his spironolactone sales revenue.

Maybe someone could ask anyway...lol Just dont mention the website name...just ask if it is possible to obtain a 5% solution because you dont like the cream! Actually I will do it now. I have been using the cream again just recntly and I now know why I stopped.

PS. Bryan and Dave please help us out with this as well. Are there any studies on making a 'possible' 5% sprio solution?

cheers

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Appreciate all the work dice, I am very keen on getting some off this Spiro5%, just want to make sure its legit.

I still dont see how it can be a 5% solution using only PPG and Alcohol. I was reading some stuff over at HLH the other day and both Bryan and Dave said it only dissloved to about 1.5% in straight alcohol and PPG would help get it to 2%.

So unless they have a 'secret method' to obtain a 5% solution, then I dont know.

As far as dr. Lee is concerned, it probably would be a waste of time asking him. He is a good man and all, but I hardly think he is going to respond favorably about a rival product that would potentialy steal a portion of his spironolactone sales revenue.

Maybe someone could ask anyway...lol Just dont mention the website name...just ask if it is possible to obtain a 5% solution because you dont like the cream! Actually I will do it now. I have been using the cream again just recntly and I now know why I stopped.

PS. Bryan and Dave please help us out with this as well. Are there any studies on making a 'possible' 5% sprio solution?

cheers

So you are going to email him? Cool, let us know what he says.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Hey Blaze, what about glycerin? Do you think glycerin would dissolve the spironolactone better than ethanol and ppg? Even though glycerin is a little thicker viscosity, it would still be thinner viscosity than the cream.

 

[ikaponthus]

Erm...it appears Dr. Lee is selling it at 5% ... Farked if I know what's going on. I just looked on his website and it said 5% spironolactone.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Erm...it appears Dr. Lee is selling it at 5% ... Farked if I know what's going on. I just looked on his website and it said 5% spironolactone.

He sells the cream not the solution.

 

[ikaponthus]

What's the diff?

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

What's the diff?

The cream is harder to apply than a solution, since a solution has a thinner viscosity and you can apply with a dropper or even spray it if you want to do that. I prefer a dropper or dabber. Thats the difference. The bad thing is, is that a solution is often unstable( the 5% usually is anyways), while a cream vehicle is stable. But the 5% spironolactone solution that CEM is selling might very well be a good solution, as to the info that was given to me anyways.

 

[blaze]

Dice, glycerine does not dissolve as well as PPG does.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Dice, glycerine does not dissolve as well as PPG does.

Yeah, thanks i just read something about that.

 

[Guest]

I was just about to order the 5% spironolactone liquid but 3 things worry me...

1.This spironolactone is the only thing CEM inc. sells for hairloss, why?

2.Don't you need a prescription to buy aldactone or topical spironolactone if the company is based in the United States? This company is based out of my home town in Minnesota right down the street.

3.Why wouldn't the company know what the ingredients are? Why wouldn't it have the ingredients listed on the bottle.

This actually sounds very sketchy to me now that I think about it and I'm much better off going through a reliable company that makes a reliable product.

Please respond

 

[Guest]

I was looking around on their website and they had LIQUID DUTASTERIDE FOR SALE!!!!!!

What the f*** man!!!

This company seems to be going in a direction that contradicts everything I've learned about topical formulas with hair loss medicines. Either CEM Inc. is a complete scam or they have some really cool products!

I for one will NOT be buying anything from this company!

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

I was just about to order the 5% spironolactone liquid but 3 things worry me...

1.This spironolactone is the only thing CEM inc. sells for hairloss, why?

2.Don't you need a prescription to buy aldactone or topical spironolactone if the company is based in the United States? This company is based out of my home town in Minnesota right down the street.

3.Why wouldn't the company know what the ingredients are? Why wouldn't it have the ingredients listed on the bottle.

This actually sounds very sketchy to me now that I think about it and I'm much better off going through a reliable company that makes a reliable product.

Please respond

The ingredients are on the bottle on the label. Go to the website and get a "close up" at the bottle and you'll see the ingredients. questions # 2 and 1...................I don't know how to answer. I guess they could sell it without requiring a script, since it is considered a research chemical and it says not to use for human consumption. Thats my guess..........................You should go over there and check the place out and see what kind of company you are dealing with. If they look sketchy.......they might be!! As far as I know the 5% spironolactone solution they are selling is relatively new, so that might explain why it is the only hairloss product they have.

 

[blaze]

Dice is right. The spironolactone is sold for "research" purposes, so they can get away with it.

Dice, are you going to order some?
Didnt you speak to a few guys that said they used it and found it to be a good product that helped their hairloss?

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Dice is right. The spironolactone is sold for "research" purposes, so they can get away with it.

Dice, are you going to order some?
Didnt you speak to a few guys that said they used it and found it to be a good product that helped their hairloss?

I might order some, I just can't afford it right now, I am in a bit of a financial jam. But yes, I am still pretty interested. Yes I spoke to a few and they said that it was good quality, stable and all that stuff. But one thing has to be understood though, alot of these people that use it are bodybuilders and use hairloss products for precautionary measures...................just incase they are predisposed to hairloss, they use it when on a cycle of roids, because steroids will excelerate male pattern baldness, they don't want to speed the process up. So as far as how effective this product is is questionable.......................just like any other hairloss product. I am still in the process of finding more about it before purchasing..................the more positive things about it I find, the better I feel. I'll keep ya updated

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

I got an email back from CEM this morning. The ingredients are ethanol, propylene glycol, distilled water, spironolactone, methylparaben, propylparaben. I didn't know that methylparaben and propylparaben were in it, those are preservatives. As far as the smell goes, yes there is an odor, but should not be much of a problem if using it correctly, according to them. I guess that means don't just drench your scalp with it, use it sparingly. They did not give me the ingredients percentages though, it must not be on the bottle. I asked about the stability and they said that it is quite stable.

 

[Guest]

Well that makes a little more sense anyway.

Dice, why are you only interested in this 5% spironolactone threads? Most of your previous posts are on this one topic. Do you work for CEMproducts as a salesman?

Are you trying to scam us hair loss sufferers? does CEM inc slang suger water with blue die or does it actually contain Spironolactone?

Just kidding! Thanks for your replies. I noticed this company offers a money back guarentee...