spironolactone cream and systemic absorbtion??

jimmystanley

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What proof is there to show that i won't be getting this stuff in my blood stream? I know fluridil's claim is that water some how causes it to become useless (somehow). What is spironolactone's claim to fame? (talking about the cream here.
 

jimmystanley

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nobody knows? or nobody cares? or does it actually get into the blood stream and you are just making me panic and buy it anyway.?
 

Johnny24601

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I don't see how it can be effective unless it is absorbed and I don't see how it can be absorbed and not eventually get into the bloodstream. Get what I'm saying?
I don' buy it and think that finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral combo is best approach from a cost benefit point of view. It is accepted as a relatively safe, relatively effective and relatively cheap treatment option.
 

jimmystanley

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i see your point...i'm thinking it would probably get absorbed too...however, it is effective it it absorbed into the scalp since those are the androgen receptors that we want to block.
 

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Johnny24601 said:
I don't see how it can be effective unless it is absorbed and I don't see how it can be absorbed and not eventually get into the bloodstream. Get what I'm saying?
I don' buy it and think that finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral combo is best approach from a cost benefit point of view. It is accepted as a relatively safe, relatively effective and relatively cheap treatment option.

It's not absorbed. It's metabolized in the skin and doesn't enter the bloodstream. Do some research and you'll find the answer to your concern(s). It's a very safe treatment.

I think what you guys are failing to understand is that the skin can metabolize many substances placed upon it.
 

iamnaked

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Is the ponint not just that spironolactone has a low half life? I'm sure that it does penetrate the scalp and some reaches the bloodstream, but it gets broken down relatively quickly.
 

Johnny24601

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Certainly the skin cannot metabolize all of the spironolactone.
One of my personel concerns is in regards to simply over medicating. When does one say enough is enough when trying combat male pattern baldness. For me, I think I have reached my limit with finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral. I feel like I am already spending enough $ on that crap and risking side effects (both long and short term) so I do not want to add in the $ and risks associated with spironolactone.
As far as it's (spironolactone's) safety, it appears to be safe and realtively effective but I am a skeptic. This Dr. lee guy is becoming a millionaire and money pollutes so I am going to take his comments with a grain of salt.
This is all opinion but......our hair follicles and the cells along the area in which male pattern baldness effects are sustained through our blood flow (pretty much like everything in our body). spironolactone is an anti andro product and unless that andro is reduced in the blood flow to the follicles then how can spironolactone be helpful? Cells in the human body do not have a mind of their own so those cells are not just sitting there saying no to the blood flow which sustains them and contains andro. I just don't buy the fact that a cream that is metbolized in the skin can force a cell (or hair follicle) to reject andro. My other issue is in regards to the fact that if this treatment is effective and has no risk then why are we not seeing more people using it to fight male pattern baldness. Many men are desperate for anything that can help as we see finasteride and minoxidil sales skyrocket, why does it appear that spironolactone treatment is less common and less recommended then the big 3 (especially on websites like this in which many of the contributors appear to be very well informed)?
 

iamnaked

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Johnny24601 said:
Certainly the skin cannot metabolize all of the spironolactone.
One of my personel concerns is in regards to simply over medicating. When does one say enough is enough when trying combat male pattern baldness. For me, I think I have reached my limit with finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral. I feel like I am already spending enough $ on that crap and risking side effects (both long and short term) so I do not want to add in the $ and risks associated with spironolactone.
As far as it's (spironolactone's) safety, it appears to be safe and realtively effective but I am a skeptic. This Dr. lee guy is becoming a millionaire and money pollutes so I am going to take his comments with a grain of salt.
This is all opinion but......our hair follicles and the cells along the area in which male pattern baldness effects are sustained through our blood flow (pretty much like everything in our body). spironolactone is an anti andro product and unless that andro is reduced in the blood flow to the follicles then how can spironolactone be helpful? Cells in the human body do not have a mind of their own so those cells are not just sitting there saying no to the blood flow which sustains them and contains andro. I just don't buy the fact that a cream that is metbolized in the skin can force a cell (or hair follicle) to reject andro. My other issue is in regards to the fact that if this treatment is effective and has no risk then why are we not seeing more people using it to fight male pattern baldness. Many men are desperate for anything that can help as we see finasteride and minoxidil sales skyrocket, why does it appear that spironolactone treatment is less common and less recommended then the big 3 (especially on websites like this in which many of the contributors appear to be very well informed)?

There was an italian study which confirmed that it does work, and it certainly helps on DHT-caused acne. I agree with you though, that there is a point at which you should call it a day with all the creams and stuff. I use a fair amount of stuff, because I'm keen on keeping my hair until my face is weathered enough to fit a horseshoe. It is possible I may drop tricomin and spironolactone though.
 
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