spent ALL DAY on dutch and german hair forums - observations

Gilgamesh

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http://www.alopezie.de

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http://www.haarweb.nl/forum


#1 - they pretty much all use Dutasteride (especially the Dutch) as opposed to propecia. even though they think it might be dangerous, they seem to not give a f*ck and are A LOT more concerned with going bald than we are

#2 - discussion of suicide / leaving their wives / etc. if they go bald is much more common. they dont whine about it though: it's like matter of fact. they seem to be more fatalistic about it all. you don't get any of the 'just shave your head and get a tan' responses. it's all or nothing with them (especially the Germans). probably why they don't care about the sides of dutasteride.

#3 - they pretty much have the exact same opinions about the top transplant doctors as we do. armani and hasson/wong and cole essentialy are big time. the futzyhead guy is seen as some kind of celebrity and they call him 'bon jovi'.


#4 - a sh*tload of them use something called 'rooscure' in their regimins (they list their regimins underneath their signature like us)

#5 - they use spironolactone and fluridil too pretty commonly


#6 - the germans call sheds 'OUTBURTS'. made me laugh for some reason

the most striking difference is i've yet to come across this foolish 'hit the gym and get tan with your moby head' suggestion. this meathead alphamale nonsense is mostly an American invention and I think you guys are fooling yourselves with it.


there's a whole bunch of other stuff too: it's very interesting : i'm gonna keep reading and update more

(by the way, I lived in Germany for 4 years growing up. I'm also using a Dutch translator program.
 

Lizzad

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Great post, it's always good to know other perspectives and routes of treatment when studying such a subject.

However, there is no manly way of saying i'm gonna kill myself because i'm losing my hair. It's weak. People have far greater problems in everyday life. And it boils down to vanity really. It's all relative and westerners just don't appreciate how easy they have it.

And hitting the gym and getting a tan isn't foolish for many, it's a look, a look that works, a look that women really go for and many men feel comfortable with. And the "alpha male" theory isn't an American invention it's a biological imperative.

But good post :!:
 

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Re: spent ALL DAY on dutch and german hair forums - observat

Gilgamesh said:
the most striking difference is i've yet to come across this foolish 'hit the gym and get tan with your moby head' suggestion.


Gilgamesh it is clear you have lost some perspective in your life.

You think the advice to improve your appearance, health and gain confidence through conditioning of the body is foolish, whilst chemical castration, invasive surgery, destuction of relationships and castration are to be considered better options?

You may have slipped further into the realm of the unwell than you suspect.
 

20sometingtoo

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Interesting to see how the rest of the world deals with hairloss.

Makes me glad that I'm an American. There must be some serious pressure from those German women if men are acting as fatalistic as you say.
True, we are all here because of vanity. If not, going bald would be a blessing. Kind of like never having to shave again.

But, damn, there are certainly bigger problems to deal with.


Perspective is a powerful word.
 

VWdude

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You speak and understand german? thats awesome! English and Italian for me... I just drive german cars.

Oh... and maybe you might want to consider spending less time on foreign hairloss forums.... LOL.
 

thin=depressed

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Lizzad said:
Great post, it's always good to know other perspectives and routes of treatment when studying such a subject.

However, there is no manly way of saying i'm gonna kill myself because i'm losing my hair. It's weak. People have far greater problems in everyday life. And it boils down to vanity really. It's all relative and westerners just don't appreciate how easy they have it.

And hitting the gym and getting a tan isn't foolish for many, it's a look, a look that works, a look that women really go for and many men feel comfortable with. And the "alpha male" theory isn't an American invention it's a biological imperative.

But good post :!:
great post
 

Gilgamesh

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i looked it up and it turned out roooscure is just 1% ketaconazole (basically nizoral with half the concentration)
 

j25

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You are correct.. I am Dutch, but i can also speak (and understand, for that matter) German.
'Roos' is the Dutch word for 'dandruff', in German it's 'Schuppen'..
It basically implies that you can buy Rooscure over the counter of a lot of pharmshops, with the intention of fighting excessive dandruff on the scalp.

'Fatalistic', ha, i like that one.. :lol: I suppose it must be one of the consequences of being part of the 'old' world. We're all sooo damn tired of this hairloss thing.. :sleepin:
 

Gilgamesh

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hey j25, do you have any opinion on galeatomie or oberbinding prodcedures commonly done in the Netherlands and Belgium?

do you know of anyone who's had any of these 2 prodedures and what their results were?
 

j25

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No i am sorry, i have vaguely heard of some people who've done it but i am too ignorant to have formed an opinion about it.. Just post the question on the Dutch forum, i am sure that some people there can help you!
 

Gilgamesh

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oh i did and got a lot of positive responses

i'm just trying to collect as many possible opinions as possible (although I've pretty much already made up my mind it's worth a try)
 
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onderbinding and galeatomie are both unproven methods that don't work at all. there's nobody on the dutch forums claiming to have results with that.

just a scam.
 
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