Reactions when people attempt to cheer you up?

[Baldester]

i'd like to start first by pointing out some stuff so that the discussion will attain the intended goals :
-i would never(ever) say or point out anything that would offend someone in these forums no matter how dark, fu cked up in the mind, or hateful toward male pattern baldness and the whole hairloss situation and my life as whole i might be, NEVA, i WILL say crazy stuff, i WILL hate male pattern baldness, i WILL be dark and mad, that you shall be assured of, but i will never insult someone here, or any guy with our issue for that matter.ALTOUGH i'll probably insult anyone who isn't of and outside this circle
-i love discussions, it helps everyone mature and worth every second you spend reading, reacting, thinking, answering back, writing or researching, that is my resolve
- never in my life have i seen a place so dedicated to discussing a problem with no boundaries and so much mature people, especially young, seriously
and i will eventually stp to say similar words as soon as they come through my mind in next threads or in the future...i just feel inclined to do so, i just feel like saying it, it revives something within, these forums, you crazy n uts out there...i just appreciate every word you say and might say.

NOW BACK TO OUR USUAL TONE AND COMMENTS

you know , i just need this off my chest and i bet everyone here needs to discuss this as much as i do, and all we need si to discuss it with people we know* do understand the problem fully. so straight to the point ;

when the fu cks around you try to cheer you up (including your grandparents ,parents, wife or gf, friends or whatever, all beings attempting to do this to us fall into the same category of despicable ****s regardless of their "well intentions" , heck, i'd punch an angel for doing that, god help me i know i'm fu cked up).

so, speaking on behalf of all of you my brothers i would describe the situation, and i'm more than certain all of us can relate:

1--we all feel a LOT smarter than the person trying to cheer us up about hairloss, as if the problem is to deep and they're only scratching the surface, and we are too damn wise and we are ahead of them, say like 20 years or so of thinking, deduction and philosophy ....feels like they are stupid as fu ck.
my comment: WE ARE, we don't just feel that way because we are at the center of the problem, nor because we are depressed and that is a common side of depression , NO, NO, WE ARE FU CKING SMARTER, hairloss makes you mature 5 years per day (mentally) and gives you deeper insight into stuff and you tend to analyse a 100 percent than the shallow half wits around you, beacuse you are dealing with something serious and hard to understand or cope with at first glance or even at first decade

2-- i am not an optimistic person nor am i too bright at hoping, never been positive to begin with, not depressive , but just not positive and happy-go-lucky sh it BUT, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES, at the simple thought, that the treatement might work for me, that in the future there would improved remedies(i'm only 20 and it started back when i was 13), hopefully permanent , that i may afford hair transplant, or it turns out not to be male pattern baldness( i've seen 1 doctor and i'm thinning everywhere, probably diffuse, but who knows i'll need to ensure, might be nutrition, ****ed up life for as long as i remember , just got into the habbit of eating and living healthy for the past year only to find out that my hairloss just accelerated...fu ck it).
just at the thought of that one day i will regain my hair and have the previous look with hair and frame to my face and head, volume and possibilities to style, the solid confidence(everything else is just perfect, thank god, skin, face, shape, intellect, languages humor, manners, morals,...EVERYTHING) once i am myself again, once i am whole, once i regain the asset i lost for no reason I WILL BECOME THE MOST FU CKED UP JERK AND HATER TOWARD SHALLOW WOMEN AND WILL TAKE EVERY AND EACH CHANCE TO DISGRACE THEM AND HUMULIATE THEM WITH ALL MY WIT AND MIGHT(i can, trust me, bad-a ss strong personality backed up by all i need) AND REGARD SHALLOW PEOPLE AS INFERIOR BEINGS AND STEP ON THEM, BREAK THEIR HEARTS , NEVER GIVING A FU CK ENJOYING EVERY BIT OF IT, I will simply be the hell they deserve on this land, i will be their torturer on this earth then i'll hand them to lucifer for the rest of eternity.
3-- no kind of cheering and no amout of it can hit the bull's eye, i don't know, cheering at this kind of situation may as well be as misplaced as poking a dead man.(not that we are dead men

 

[aero1976]

I looked at your pictures. Its not for me to say you do not look like you have hair loss. But I sure don't see it in your pictures. I am surprised your family is laying pity on you though.

 

[Baldester]

You can't blame those who have never suffered from male pattern baldness to understand how it feels. Guys who have hair have no idea about hair loss, it's like a different dimension to them. Girls are girls and cannot possibly understand what it would be like to have male pattern baldness.

They don't deserve hell. You would also be a shallow ignoramus if male pattern baldness never happened to you. You say you are more mature...I don't think so. I'm one of the very few with real perspective on this issue because I went pretty damn bald before and now I have almost all my hair back (still going btw, all the way to Norwood 1) So I know what its like to be a person in all 3 situations.

1. a complete ignoramus
2. a guy with male pattern baldness
3 a guy with hair but knows first hand what it's like to have male pattern baldness

This brings true perspective and maturity. Grow up mate!

concerning the maturity comment, not quite friendly i might add, i would respond to you as follows :
1- ""you would also be a shallow ignoramus if male pattern baldness never happened to you"" if you needed male pattern baldness to NOT be an ignoramus, that means your problems go waaaaaay back from before you had male pattern baldness
2 -and once again on that quote, no sir, hell no sir, i proudly inform you that i have never been an ignoramus in my life, and certainly not toward male pattern baldness for that matter, and i never descriminated or looked differently to people suffering hairloss back at the days when i had a full head. don't assume what people are like
3- and pay close attention to the point you seem to have missed : ""Guys who have hair have no idea about hair loss"" ignorance and the lack of knowledge about such a common an issue and a health matter of this magnitude or simply a fact, if the fault of the ignorant , and his fault alone, the fact that they are not attained by male pattern baldness does not by any mean give justification to their NON understanding of how to treat people with. in medical studies,or even back at prep school,(svt branch) we ought to understand sickness and handicaps even though we may never experience them ourselves(male pattern baldness being a genetic curse and defect , it fairly falls into the category of mutilation) AND ""Girls are girls and cannot possibly understand what it would be like to have male pattern baldness"" if this inablity to understand you describe justifies the fact that we lose a major part of our attractiveness -by society standards- and as a result a part of self esteem and that we are shunned-to some extent, not fully- due to hairloss by shallow girls, then i'd like to say it once more, SHALLOW PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW BETTER CUZ they are not experiencing the issue themselves, and treat people who DO (who automatically, following your logic are not "ignoramus" as opposed to people unconcerned with the problem), SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW BETTER, there is no excuse for treating people poorly , and if your try to justify it by saying "" they don't understand"" i SAY , well then, THEY OUGHT TO UNDERSTAND , at least how to treat people proprely.
4- i am still convinced that SHALLOW PEOPLE OUGHT TO UNSHALLOW THEMSELVES OR DROP DEAD, yep, shallow people hater, they just got no excuse for their bull-sh-it
5-forget the above, all of it, but do consider it, it is merely thought, i'll probably never be a jerk even if i woke up tomorrow with a full head, never, i simply will not, it is NOT who i am, not to anyone i would ever be as such

having said all of that, i once more emphasize that this is merely thought, and has a major side of dark humor to it as well. and would leave you with the following comparaison:
WHY are YOU BALD ? le poor bald guy : "genetics, i just never had a say in it, inherited it,and suffered this baldness as a consequence", sounds legit, couldn't ask the dude anymore
WHY ARE YOU SHALLOW? le shallow fu cker:" i just don't know any better, i guess it's beacuse i'm not balding that i can't understand baldies" WRONG ANSWER SHALLOW BUDDY, WRONG ANSWER, he'd have to have got a better argument or stfu.

i hope you did not misunderstood me there, though i'm always a bit too dark and negative, i am by no mean offensive nor sarcastic, this i can assure you my friend
THEN AGAIN, it really is refreshing to hear that you could regain your hair, and looking forward to an nw1 is simply astounding after going all the way down the pipe with male pattern baldness, way to go buddy! congratz!

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aero1976 yea, i've been told i'm not in the most dire of conditions, however it's diffused and been going on for too long(7 years, ever since i was 13) and during the last year i went though times when i'd shed +400 strands per week, no kidding i counted them down to the last strand as i'm a highly skeptical person, and it simply has no volume to it even if it grows incredibly long (talking about 10-13 cm each stand)
though i appreciat the piece of advice, and it has been pointed out to me to consult multiple doctors, as i've only seen 1 doctor(now at 20) during the whole 7 year struggle, and just started medication. but nontheless, my condition is still horrible and i'm losing hair even in supposdly donor areas and my scalp is slightly sunburnt. sucks, but yeah i'm definetly with you on the further inspection idea, sure will( i just couldn't afford to see a doctor during the past 7 years, let alone medication XD).pretty thanks

 

[Baldester]

yea afraid that's how it is , sometimes i shower on the third day, and see +400 going down the pipes...sucks to say the least. although my only piece of solace is that my hairline is perfect and have not receded, is it the diffused thinning that haunts me, all around, including donor areas, my scalp is slightly burned and even short fuzz doesn't suit me anymore...well guys around here keep telling that my pics say i'm relatively not that late,good to know.

thanks man ,i sure do hope it gets better buddy, same to you, infact, same to us all here, same to us all