question about hairline

asdf13 · Jun 27, 2005

I've asked a lot about a potential Thyroid disorder, and I'm trying to learn as much as I can before visiting the doctor and taking any tests.

Are widow peaks generally a sign of male pattern baldness? I have diffuse thinning on top, receding hairline, thinning temples, and if i pull out a peice of hair, it has some white/lightish gunk on the bottom. I've also noticed area's up front where hair is no longer growing. They like are little seeds that are dying, I do have oily skin (one connection to a potential thyroid issue, and nizoral should help that, right).

What are your thoughts?

The Gardener · Jun 27, 2005

Your baldness is happening in a pattern which is highly indicative of male pattern baldness. High temples, thin top, that is classic male pattern baldness.

YES get on the Nizoral, ASAP. Cut down on that sebum, its not good. I'd toss in a good copper peptide spray while you are at it. A greasy scalp is an male pattern baldness person's worst nightmare.

I'd cycle in T/Gel too, if your scalp is truly that greasy. You really gotta keep that sh*t clean, or it will exacerbate the irritation. Try the shampoos and the copper peptides, and see if your scalp stabilizes. Is your scalp irritated? For me, irritation has always gone hand in hand with periods of recession. In time, hopefully any potential irritation will go away, and then you can re-assess further treatment at that point. That's my two cents.

asdf13 · Jun 28, 2005

The Gardener said:
Your baldness is happening in a pattern which is highly indicative of male pattern baldness. High temples, thin top, that is classic male pattern baldness.

YES get on the Nizoral, ASAP. Cut down on that sebum, its not good. I'd toss in a good copper peptide spray while you are at it. A greasy scalp is an male pattern baldness person's worst nightmare.

I'd cycle in T/Gel too, if your scalp is truly that greasy. You really gotta keep that sh*t clean, or it will exacerbate the irritation. Try the shampoos and the copper peptides, and see if your scalp stabilizes. Is your scalp irritated? For me, irritation has always gone hand in hand with periods of recession. In time, hopefully any potential irritation will go away, and then you can re-assess further treatment at that point. That's my two cents.

I ordered nizoral on the 20th. Still hasn't come in yet, hopefully it will soon. I'll probably try some T/gel. Would you also recommend the T/gel conditioner?

Also, another question... I have a poor diet. I generally eat sh*t that's not good for me (although I work out everyday, so it balances everything out in terms of weight). I'm eating better (salads, veggies, and fruits), and taking Centrum vitamins.

How much can vitamin deficiency play a role? Obviously the receding hairline makes it sound like male pattern baldness, but combined with a poor diet (and oily skin) how much of a factor can that play?

Also, I believe I read people use nizoral on their face. Is that OK, and will that do anything?

The Gardener · Jun 28, 2005

I'd stick with using the nizoral only on the scalp.

Poor nutrition can't help. Hormonal cues to trigger certain processes associated with ageing have been recently proven to be affected by stress. Poor nutrition can only accelerate this. No, I am not saying that poor nutrition causes hairloss. Hormones and follicle sensitivity cause the hairloss, but both these activites are triggered by the body's own 'ageing clock', which you do have some control over in terms of how soon these triggers happen.

Get serious about your health. Hairloss is a symptom that you are getting older, and the more you put off the importance of taking care of your body, the more serious the problems you might have to worry about. Hairloss might just be the tip of the iceberg. If you are serious about fighting your hairloss, get healthy. Now.