Poor diet can accelerate hairloss (survey/report)

DammitLetMeIn

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Obesity and Low-Grade Inflammation among Young Finnish Men with Early-Onset Alopecia

Dermatology. 2007;214(2):125-9..Hirsso P, Rajala U, Hiltunen L, Jokelainen J, Keinanen-Kiukaanniemi S, Nayha S.
University of Oulu, Department of Public Health Science and General Practice, Oulu, Finland.

Background: Previous investigations have revealed an association of androgenetic alopecia (Androgenetic Alopecia), especially in younger subjects with severe early-onset Androgenetic Alopecia, with ischemic heart disease.

Objective: To examine the possible association between early-onset alopecia and low-grade inflammation measured by high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) that has been recommended for the assessment of the cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk.

Methods: The study population consisted of young men (n = 727, aged 25-34 years) participating in a national survey. The grade of alopecia was assessed by a trained nurse using the Norwood/Hamilton Classification Scale.

Results: Men with moderate to extensive alopecia (17%) had a higher body mass index and larger waist, upper arm, hip and waist circumference than those with little to no alopecia (p < 0.05), and statistically insignificant differences were seen in the waist-to-hip circumference ratio (WHR), diastolic blood pressure and hs-CRP. With increasing hs-CRP, the mean WHR increased, but only among men with moderate to extensive alopecia (p = 0.043).

Conclusion: Our findings show a relation between moderate to extensive alopecia and low-grade inflammation - a predictor of a future CVD - especially combined with central obesity, among men younger than 35 years.

Copyright (c) 2007 S. Karger AG, Basel.

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There is a growing body of evidence showing that obesity caused by a poor diet can affect many areas of your health. One area that does not get much attention because it’s not life threatening, is hair loss.

Now a recent survey in Finland has shown that young men with moderate to extensive hair loss were also more likely to be overweight. In addition to being overweight, they also had high levels of a certain protein that’s associated with a low-grade inflammation. The low grade inflammation is most likely due to the effects of eating a poor diet high in sugars and carbohydrates.

According to the survey, obese men were 17% more likely to have hair loss than their counterparts who had a normal BMI (body mass index).

Does this mean that your diet causes you to lose your hair? No, male pattern hair loss is a genetic condition. However your diet can definitely affect your hormone levels since insulin indirectly stimulates testosterone production, and insulin is released every time you ingest carbohydrates like sugar.

Logically the more your blood sugar increases, the more insulin is released, and the more hormones get produced. The result of that is your hair loss could start at a much earlier age than if you had been eating a healthy diet due to the high levels of androgens. Furthermore, it could advance a lot quicker and you could become bald in your 20’s when it may have only happened once you reached your 40’s.

Additionally, the inflammation resulting from the excess fat could also adversely affect your hair loss.

There are many good reasons to start eating a healthy diet and this is just another one.






I thought this might be interesting to some...
 

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Gout

Gout is probably one of the oldest recognised forms of arthritis it was described by Hippocrates who noted amongst other things that "eunuchs neither get gout nor grow bald".

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With effective treatment most sufferers can eat a normal diet.

However certain foods contain high levels of purine which contributes to high serum uric acid levels, these include liver, kidney, anchovies, sardines, mussels, herring, bacon, scallops, trout, haddock, veal, venison, and turkey.

Alcohol whilst not causing gout may precipitate an attack.



 

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DammitLetMeIn said:
Dammit wookster what are we supposed to eat? chicken?


p.s. good post btw

Cyclosporine sometimes regrows scalp hair on bald heads but it also increses symptoms of gout and increses uric acid levels. Can we eliminate the uric acid connection?

http://www.rheumatology.org/public/fact ... porine.asp


Because this medication affects the kidney, cyclosporine can cause gout in some individuals or worsen underlying gout in others.
 

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Wait...what are you guys talking about now?

Gout is caused by an enzyme deficiency that allows for the accumulation of purines and their eventual precipitation in joints in the body.

Diet and alcohol affect it, but the genetic cause is far removed from the cause of male pattern baldness.
 

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wookster said:
docj077 said:
Wait...what are you guys talking about now?


http://www.studenthealth.co.uk/advice/a ... viceID=111


Gout

Gout is probably one of the oldest recognised forms of arthritis it was described by Hippocrates who noted amongst other things that

"eunuchs neither get gout nor grow bald"


I'm trying to figure out why you'd even attempt to link them. I've never read of a hormonal link to gout...ever. A deficiency in the HGPRT enzyme is typically what causes gout as this allows for the build-up of purines and their eventual precipitation in tissue. Inhibition of xanthine oxidase with allopurinol prevents this process.
 

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docj077 said:
wookster said:
docj077 said:
Wait...what are you guys talking about now?


http://www.studenthealth.co.uk/advice/a ... viceID=111


Gout

Gout is probably one of the oldest recognised forms of arthritis it was described by Hippocrates who noted amongst other things that

"eunuchs neither get gout nor grow bald"


I'm trying to figure out why you'd even attempt to link them. I've never read of a hormonal link to gout...ever. A deficiency in the HGPRT enzyme is typically what causes gout as this allows for the build-up of purines and their eventual precipitation in tissue. Inhibition of xanthine oxidase with allopurinol prevents this process.

:salut: :study: :salut:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/byname/gout.htm


The prevalence for men is 13.6 cases per 1000 men, and the prevalence for women is 6.4 cases per 1000 women.

This difference is largely a manifestation of age of onset because estrogenic hormones have a mild uricosuric effect; therefore, gout is unusual in premenopausal women.
 

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wookster said:
docj077 said:
wookster said:
docj077 said:
Wait...what are you guys talking about now?


http://www.studenthealth.co.uk/advice/a ... viceID=111


Gout

Gout is probably one of the oldest recognised forms of arthritis it was described by Hippocrates who noted amongst other things that

"eunuchs neither get gout nor grow bald"


I'm trying to figure out why you'd even attempt to link them. I've never read of a hormonal link to gout...ever. A deficiency in the HGPRT enzyme is typically what causes gout as this allows for the build-up of purines and their eventual precipitation in tissue. Inhibition of xanthine oxidase with allopurinol prevents this process.

:salut: :study: :salut:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/byname/gout.htm

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The prevalence for men is 13.6 cases per 1000 men, and the prevalence for women is 6.4 cases per 1000 women.

This difference is largely a manifestation of age of onset because estrogenic hormones have a mild uricosuric effect; therefore, gout is unusual in premenopausal women.
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That still doesn't explain why eunuchs don't get gout.
 

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No matter how many times people try to prove diet is a major factor in male pattern baldness I will refuse to believe it. There are far to many real world counter examples that show thats not true. male pattern baldness happens to people as they get older when the person makes no dietary changes. There is no way diet causes that. Slightly influences it yes I might grant you diet guys that one, but it certainly is not altering your destiny of having hair.
 

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docj077 said:

That still doesn't explain why eunuchs don't get gout.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/12420070



A total of 107 patients with primary gout were examined. The pituitary-gonadal system is imbalanced in male patients with gout, which manifests by hyperproduction of progesterone and suppressed production of testosterone and estradiol. These changes are more pronounced in patients with chronic arthritis and proteinuric nephropathy. Similar dyshormonal changes are experimentally simulated in rats by induction of purine metabolism disorders. Exogenous injection of androgens in experimental hyperuricemia led to normalization of purine metabolism and hormonal homeostasis.
 

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wookster said:
docj077 said:

That still doesn't explain why eunuchs don't get gout.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/12420070



A total of 107 patients with primary gout were examined. The pituitary-gonadal system is imbalanced in male patients with gout, which manifests by hyperproduction of progesterone and suppressed production of testosterone and estradiol. These changes are more pronounced in patients with chronic arthritis and proteinuric nephropathy. Similar dyshormonal changes are experimentally simulated in rats by induction of purine metabolism disorders. Exogenous injection of androgens in experimental hyperuricemia led to normalization of purine metabolism and hormonal homeostasis.

In your previous post, estrogen prevents hyperuricemia,and therefore, gout...at least in women.

Here, a lack of estrogen and testosterone causes gout. I'm guessing that it's not the testosterone that is the important factor, but rather the estrogen derived from testosterone.

It would definitely make sense that men with gout would have less hair loss if what you've posted is true. They would have a hormone imbalance from the beginning.

Unfortunately, treating gout does not mean that you'll treat male pattern baldness. What you've posted is a natural process that seems to protect the body. I'd expect a male to have an attack of gout if you prevented androgen release and function all together. That would essentially remove estrogen from the system and potentiate hyperuricemia. Unfortunately, you can't do that to a male for a long period of time.


Interesting finding, but nothing that we can work with.
 

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noones gonna comment on the study dammit posted? seems to have been hijacked by gout discussions.
 

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abcdefg said:
No matter how many times people try to prove diet is a major factor in male pattern baldness I will refuse to believe it. There are far to many real world counter examples that show thats not true. male pattern baldness happens to people as they get older when the person makes no dietary changes. There is no way diet causes that. Slightly influences it yes I might grant you diet guys that one, but it certainly is not altering your destiny of having hair.

Did you even read the first study posted?

Its basically saying fat people have more extensive baldness.
 

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powersam said:
noones gonna comment on the study dammit posted?

lol exactly. Its a recent study (2007) which for the first time gives direct evidence that being fat/bigger accelerate baldness.

I'd like to hear Bryan's view...
 

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i was actually quite surprised to see it, because i specifically look for studies on the diet-hair loss topic, and had never found one quite so specific and on point before. good find.
 

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powersam said:
i was actually quite surprised to see it, because i specifically look for studies on the diet-hair loss topic, and had never found one quite so specific and on point before. good find.

There really should have been many more of these in the past throughout the 80s and 90s. It seems fairly simple to carry out. We could have had so much more information by now.

I applaud the scandanavians.
 

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I dont care about any study that does not list details. A half assed study does not mean or prove anything. This study means nothing except to ignorant people that do not pay attention to details and of course whoever funded it. This study and any number of studies will not convince me diet is a major factor in male pattern baldness. There are real world counter examples of real life people that are fat that have no hairloss at all that do have some genetic link. I know people that eat total crap, have a genetic propensity towards male pattern baldness, and are "overweight" according to whoever makes up that standard. These people totally disprove this and all crappy studies that try to establish a link between the 2. Show us a well done double blind study of atleast 1 year performed by some reputable source. Studies such as these are much harder to come by and are the ones that actually prove anything.
 

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abcdefg said:
I dont care about any study that does not list details. A half assed study does not mean or prove anything. This study means nothing except to ignorant people that do not pay attention to details and of course whoever funded it. This study and any number of studies will not convince me diet is a major factor in male pattern baldness. There are real world counter examples of real life people that are fat that have no hairloss at all that do have some genetic link. I know people that eat total crap, have a genetic propensity towards male pattern baldness, and are "overweight" according to whoever makes up that standard. These people totally disprove this and all crappy studies that try to establish a link between the 2. Show us a well done double blind study of atleast 1 year performed by some reputable source. Studies such as these are much harder to come by and are the ones that actually prove anything.

lol. Are you fat?

Actually read the study and look what they did. Its not perfect but it definitely proves something.
 

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abcdefg said:
I dont care about any study that does not list details. A half assed study does not mean or prove anything. This study means nothing except to ignorant people that do not pay attention to details and of course whoever funded it. This study and any number of studies will not convince me diet is a major factor in male pattern baldness. There are real world counter examples of real life people that are fat that have no hairloss at all that do have some genetic link. I know people that eat total crap, have a genetic propensity towards male pattern baldness, and are "overweight" according to whoever makes up that standard. These people totally disprove this and all crappy studies that try to establish a link between the 2. Show us a well done double blind study of atleast 1 year performed by some reputable source. Studies such as these are much harder to come by and are the ones that actually prove anything.

by your reluctance to even consider a proposition backed by science, AND real world examples such as the increased incidence of baldness in japan after assuming a more western diet, i must then assume that you realise it would be harder to change your lifestyle than take a pill everyday and therefore are unwilling to listen.
 
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