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jumbo

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I've been on finasteride for about 4-5 yrs, how long is it safe before you start a family ? I've been off it now for 2weeks, is that long enough ? I went to the GP who had no idea, I e-mailed the place I get it from in the UK and he seemed to think that the new evidence shows that you can continue to take it and it will not cause any abnormalities in the child ? Check the link below - read down the bottom -

http://www.propecia.com/finasteride/pro ... .jsp#faq12

As you can imagine I want to be 110% sure that there will be no impact/damage to the baby, but if you read the side effect/warnings etc leaflet thats in with the finasteride it says don't start a family and don't let women touch/come into contact with the drug..Hope someone can shed some light on this for me ? Many thanks in advance for any help.advice...
 

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My pharmacist said to not give blood or make babies until you've been off the drug for at least two months. I think there was a blurb about this on the directions sheet i got with my proscar as well.
 
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You will be fine.

The only way finasteride can cause birth defects in a male baby's sex organs is if the mother manages to ingest finasteride.
 

jumbo

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Cheers for the replys, but as you can see from the 2 posts we have 2 different answers !, this is exactly the same sort of answers I get when I do searches on Google, One saying the complete opposite to the other ! I would love to think that what neiltom88 is saying is the correct information. I don't really want to come off Finasteride but do not want to harm the baby... Or I want to be off it for the least time possible... Does anyone know 110% what is the correct answer with any experience to back it up...
 

jumbo

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A big thanks for the link/info Drinkrum,
The more info. I can find like this the better, It makes me confident that there will not be a problem with the baby, but to be on the safe side I'm gona stay off it for another 2wekks before trying... Again MANY THANKS....
 

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Here is my take on it....

All the medical journals I have read say that the Propecia could cause defects is women come into contact or swalloy Propecia. The studies they did show that for the defects to happen the male had to injest 5000 times greater dosage then he is actually taking. Basically, you would have to consume about 5000 pills a day and you " may " have a birth defect. No one can tell you 100% but that is what I know. Here, don't know if this will all fit but I will paste what I have on the subject. I asked the same question to Dr. Lee..

FINASTERIDE AND BIRTH DEFECTS

There are very few more anxiety provoking times in anyone’s life than possibly causing a birth defect in one’s own unborn child. So, it’s quite understandable that the mention of a possible birth defect with the use of finasteride (Propecia 1mg and Proscar 5mg, Merck) would cause considerable anxiety and concern. The package insert for Proscar states under the section on Contraindications: “Because of the ability of Type II 5alpha reductase inhibitors to inhibit the conversion of testosterone to DHT, finasteride may cause abnormalities of the external genitalia of a male fetus of a pregnant woman who receives finasterideâ€. So, is the risk real? Theoretically, yes. Practically, no.

The specific birth defect that can be caused by the absence or inhibition of the Type II 5-alpha reductase enzyme in the male embryo is hypospadias. Hypospadias is a birth defect in which the urinary tract opening is on the ventral surface (under side) of the penis rather than at the tip of the penis. There have never been congenital abnormalities observed in female fetuses at any dosage of finasteride.

During the research and development phase of finasteride, studies were done on experimental animals. Rats, rabbits, and rhesus monkeys were given finasteride to determine its relationship to birth defects, i.e. hypospadias.

Hypospadias did occur in the male offspring, when pregnant rats were administered finasteride equivalent to 5-5000 times the amount of recommended for men in treating male pattern baldness (1mg/daily). The critical period during which these effects can be induced in male rats was determined to be during the 16th –17th days of gestation.

In rabbit fetuses exposed to finasteride in utero from days 6-18 of gestation at doses equivalent to 5000 times the recommended human dosage, no evidence of malformations was observed. This result would be expected, since there was no exposure during the critical period of genital system development in rabbits.

When pregnant rhesus monkeys were given intravenous finasteride at a level equivalent to at least 750 times the highest estimated exposure of pregnant women to finasteride from semen of men taking 1mg/day, there were no genital abnormalities observed.

In the human embryo, the sensitive period of external genitalia development is during the 7th - 9th weeks of gestation. Although the chromosomal and genetic sex of an embryo is determined at fertilization by the kind of sperm, either Y-bearing or X-bearing, that fertilizes the ovum, male and female morphological characteristics do not begin to develop until the seventh week. Prior to this time, the genital systems of the two sexes are similar, and the initial period of genital development is referred to as the ‘indifferent state of sexual development’. About six weeks after conception, if a Y chromosome is present in the embryo's cells (as it is in normal males), a gene on the chromosome directs the undifferentiated gonads to become testes. If the Y chromosome is not present (as in normal females), the undifferentiated gonads will become ovaries. If the gonads become testes, they begin to produce androgens, primarily testosterone, by about eight weeks after conception. These androgens stimulate development of the one set of the genital ducts into the epididymes, vas deferens, and ejaculatory duct. The presence of androgens also stimulates development of the penis and the scrotum. Hypospadias can result if there is inadequate production of androgens by the fetal testes.

Since the sensitive period of development of the external genitalia in the human embryo is the 7th to 9th weeks of gestation, there can be no danger to the child if the father is taking finasteride at the time of conception. Originally, Merck decided to err on the side of caution and warned against the possible problem of finasteride transfer in semen. This warning has since been removed from the package insert. Considering the medical/legal implications of a theoretically possible link of finasteride treatment to birth defects, it is reasonable to assume that Merck & Co. must be very confident in knowing that impregnating a woman while taking finasteride absolutely does not cause birth defects.

Nor is there any evidence of birth defects when the father taking finasteride has intercourse with the pregnant mother during the critical periods of sexual development. The in utero effects of finasteride exposure during the period of embryonic and fetal development (gestation days 20-100) were evaluated in the rhesus monkey, a species fairly predictive of human development. Intravenous administration of finasteride to pregnant monkeys at doses as high as 800ng/day (at least 60 to 120 times the highest estimated exposure of pregnant women to finasteride from semen of men taking 5mg/day) caused no abnormalities in male fetuses.

Still, Merck retains this admonition: “Women should not handle crushed or broken Propecia tablets when they are pregnant or may be potentially pregnant because of the possibility of absorption of finasteride and the subsequent potential risk to a male fetus. Propecia tablets are coated and will prevent contact with the active ingredient during normal handling, provided that the tablets have not been broken or crushed.â€

Considering that intravenous administration of finasteride to pregnant experimental animals during the critical periods of sexual development didn’t cause birth defects, there is no reason to believe that transdermal absorption of finasteride from handling broken tablets could cause birth defects in the male child. But, since Propecia has not been approved by the FDA for use by women, Merck has nothing to lose by retaining this warning. In fact, it has good p.r. value.

So, can finasteride cause birth defects? Yes, there is a theoretical possibility that it can, but the probability is close to nil, when finasteride is taken in the recommended dosages. Since Propecia was approved by the FDA on 22 December 1997 and Proscar on 28 August 1996, millions of doses of finasteride have been taken and there has not been a single case report of a birth defect. Now that’s reassuring information.
 
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