Osman Kibar CEO of Samumed on CNBC

[Xaser94]

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000515432&play=1

Just saw it live like an hour ago. According to them every drug in their pipeline is a potential cure, not just treat symptoms.Thought it was interesting.

 

[hellouser]

Meh, I'm sure 30 years ago someone said minoxidil was a POTENTIAL cure.

 

[Xaser94]

It was weird he'd say that considering they shared the ten percent growth data on hair. I just thought maybe their last trial may have indicated something better with the biopsy lmao.

 

[hellouser]

It was weird he'd say that considering they shared the ten percent growth data on hair. I just thought maybe their last trial may have indicated something better with the biopsy lmao.

I'm satisfied with those results after just 3 months, but calling it a 'potential cure' is just an attempt to make headlines.

 

[resu]

Or maybe the results are better the more time passes or the higher the dose, if they got true regrowth even if not too amazing in density it's still fair to say it's a potential cure.

 

[hellouser]

Or maybe the results are better the more time passes or the higher the dose, if they got true regrowth even if not too amazing in density it's still fair to say it's a potential cure.

Well, then yeah I suppose so if they know something we don't.

 

[Xaser94]

Or maybe the results are better the more time passes or the higher the dose, if they got true regrowth even if not too amazing in density it's still fair to say it's a potential cure.

It doesnt get better with higher the dose. It was one of the criticisms of the medical community saying thats usually an indicator of a drug that wont make it to market. Samumed says theres a "goldilocks" zone where it works well. But theres isnt a curved dose response i think is what they called it. But maybe the time thing is true.

 

[abcdefg]

There is nothing to compare this against, but something like propecia hair counts went up quite a bit as time went on. The hair counts at 3 months I would think would increase quite a bit at 12 months or even farther out. male pattern baldness also has that unfortunate problem of taking forever to see actual results. No wonder trials take so long

 

[Pavi]

10% regrowth in 3 months. I don't know how we aren't excited about that. Does that regrowth double every 3 months? Triple? We have no idea, but that is a solid start. Does the drug maintain hair as well? Probably. This could be game changing.

 

[Mach]

I remember Follicept on cnbc.

 

[Norwood One]

And even if it isn't a cure, adding SM to a minoxidil regimen would make gainz better.

But like always, all this talk is just talk till you see it on the shelves of your local supermarket.

 

[I.D WALKER]

If it halts further recession/progression for me/us less than 5 years (real time) and doesn't impinge on my bedroom proclivities
or cause phallic atrophy/dystrophy, you can count me in.

Ten percent imrovement is one more than 9%.

 

[hiitsjam]

Any idea when are they releasing the data for longer duration of time (6 months+)??

 

[abcdefg]

Not sure, but I would like to see 6 or 12 month results. Propecia didnt even have 3 month results. The phase 3 was just 6 and 12 months with hair counts going up from like 70 to 90 or something. No reason to think at 12 months its not possibly a lot higher than at 3. Beggars cant be choosers we need anything at this point regardless what it is.

 

[RhinestoneHLT]

I'm satisfied with those results after just 3 months, but calling it a 'potential cure' is just an attempt to make headlines.

I agree a cure is absolutely far fetched.

As for their 3 month results I was impressed. Propecia did almost nothing for me in 3 months but by month 7 I had noticeable changes in my hair. Anyone who knows how hair cycles work knows you need a full year at the very least to rule on efficacy.

 

[hellouser]

I agree a cure is absolutely far fetched.

As for their 3 month results I was impressed. Propecia did almost nothing for me in 3 months but by month 7 I had noticeable changes in my hair. Anyone who knows how hair cycles work knows you need a full year at the very least to rule on efficacy.

Quoting this for truth.

 

[Norwood One]

Yeah a lot of people get on a treatment, see increased shedding (which means its working), assume it isnt and hop off. Or get disheartened they don't see hair in the first 2 months or 3 months. You really have to wait it out.

That's what makes SM and Histogen results exciting. If after 1 year they can double or triple the amount of terminal hair regrown compared to their 6mo study, we've got something substantial on our hands gentlemen.