OK, I'm going to get to work now.

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I'm going to start working in the lab and get all the samples ready and also try to make the fatty acids. That means staying off this site for a while.

If anyone sees me logged on or posting anything between now and the time I post results, you need to b**ch slap me with a post and tell me to get back to work.

TTYL
 

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Thanks collegechemistrystudent! We appreciate your help! Goodluck!
 

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i second that - keep us updated on the dutas tests.
 

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folligen concentration

This morning I did some tests in the lab. I did not yet get to the dutasteride and finasteride. I prepared a copper sulfate solution (same cation used in folligen) and noticed it was almost a sky blue, and see through like a blue diamond, at the concentration of copper that a 2% tri-amino complex with copper would have. Folligen was a dark opeaq grean. I don't know what the other colors are coming from yet, but I hope if I dilute it enough to let light through, I can compare the absorbance of it to the copper sulfate at its peak and see how much copper is in folligen. I also found a web page that tells me the peak absorption frequency of the dye in tricomin. Since folligen is not the same color as Cu 2+, it will be easy to find the concentration. However, since it is not a tri-amino acid complex, this might not give away how much amino acid is in it.
 

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pH of folligen and Prox-N

I also tested the pH of my 40% folligen.

I have to report this from memory since I left my detailed notes at the lab.

The pH meter said 5.5, but it gave that same reading for tap water, so I knew it was busted or not calibrated.

The pH paper that is yellow at 6.5 and dark green at 8.3 read 6.6, though the folligen's slight green might have caused that. On another strip that went from yellow at 4.5 to dark blue at 7.0 read 6.1, a grass green color for the folligen.

So I think it is pH 6.1 when diluted to 40%.


Then I tested the pH of Prox-N, from http://www.drproctor.com. It made both strips a light yellow. The paper that went as low as 2.5 gave a deep red, 2.5. Then I used the pH 0 to 2.5 paper, which is red at 0 and and medium orange at 2, and bright yellow at 2.5. The Prox-N came up as pH 2.2. This really surprised me, since it does not burn at all. I suspect the pH paper is wrong. Coca-Cola is pH 3.
 

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I also prepared a sodium nitrate solution to test the nitrate tester for my fish tank. I had to prepare a 3 ppm solution of nitrate. The tester detected half the correct level with two drops of HCl, the tester fluid. With one drop it measured 0 ppm, when the concentration was 2 times the worst level on the color chart. I just diluted it down to one of the lower levels on the chart, and tried 3 drops, and it still says there is nothing in the water.
So as long as I use 2 drops, I'll catch it if the levels are very high, but not if they are at one of the lower 3 of the 5 readings. They are supposed to be zero all the time.
 

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I boiled the flax oil in 1 molar KOH. It boiled much sooner than the water and oil in the flask next to it, indicating a solution of liquids. I edit this to give more details later when I have my lab notes, but the final product seemed to be mixed with water. I filled the flask with water to bring the product into the neck so i could pipette it out. I decided to freeze it to separate it from the water. I weighed 3mL of flax oil to get the density, and will look this up online later. When I get the product, I will weight it too at room temperature to see if the density is different from the flax, and I will look the value up online for each of the fatty acids. I hope they are different enough that I can determine if that is oil in there or fatty acid in there. I'll tell you more later after I sleep.
 

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My hope of finding a cure to baldness rides with you now college. I don't want you to leave that lab until you find it. Or else...
 

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Apoc said:
My hope of finding a cure to baldness rides with you now college. I don't want you to leave that lab until you find it. Or else...


Mine too. I have faith in you though. Do it for the kids! for the kids!
 

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All i can do is take existing cures and prove the cheap ones are real, or make some cheaper. I can't make a cure.

I ran into problems with the fatty acids this morning, I think. They don't look the way i expected, and i think a lot of water is dissolved in them. This could mean I have soap still. I have to look up some densities and melting points and find some pictures and figure out what i have here, then maybe boil them in more acid for longer and see what that does. Maybe my professor will give me the answer to this. i know he knows how to do this. I just hope he does not get upset that I used lab KOH. I think it is cheap though, and I'd pay for it if he wants. I need a thermometer too.
 
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