Now I'm thinning too.

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That seals it, Dammitletmein was wrong. Cooked fats don't make you go bald. It appears to be the opposite, not eating cooked fats makes you go bald!

Ok, in all seriousness though, were you applying the revivogen to that whole frontal region of your head? Or maybe you are shedding due to the revivogen having a local affect. Or it could reallly just be the male pattern baldness rearing its ugly head. Back when I first started my battle I noticed my temple area thinning out, so simply some recession. A few months later, bam, diffusion of the top of my head started. Thats when I freaked out and got onto treatment.
 

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Your hairloss looks somewhat similar to mine HOWEVER mine has not gotten to that stage yet. Ill tell you whats worked for me so far

finasteride
nizoral e.o.d
 

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Marcules said:
It very well could be telogen effluvium from not getting enough protein.

why are you not eating protein?

Eat chicken or fish and plenty of it.

And if you decide not to eat those make sure you get enough protein from other sources.
 

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Marcules said:
DammitLetMeIn said:
Marcules said:
It very well could be telogen effluvium from not getting enough protein.

why are you not eating protein?

Eat chicken or fish and plenty of it.

And if you decide not to eat those make sure you get enough protein from other sources.

What if the chicken is cooked, is it still ok?

No, cooked is dangerous. You should eat your chicken raw, straight out of the package to ensure greatest hair regrowth.
 
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Eat it cold off the bone. Cooked fats cause increase DHT and increased DHT causes thinning.
 
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Raw eggs are good too.

You should have raw eggs, and eat the chicken raw and cold off the bone for dinner tonight. Your hair will grow back. Its true! Dammitletmein told me so!
 

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badasshairday said:
Raw eggs are good too. !

raw eggs are actually good

badasshairday said:
You should have raw eggs, and eat the chicken raw and cold off the bone for dinner tonight. Your hair will grow back. Its true! Dammitletmein told me so!

I never said eat the chicken raw. When I was doin the hairloss diet thing I stopped eating animal protein as this is associated with increased levels of DHT and ate loads of soy protein. iTs impt. you eat enough protein.
 

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Marcules said:
Any association with me is bad for your cred. Sry about that.

Anyhow, So that I don't f*** up again, can you please give me a diet to follow? I plan on ordering that book you told me about, but I don't have the money right now for it.

I can give you the relevant info from the book regarding diet when I get a chance. Don't worry about buying it.

The key to a good diet imho is to keep it low glycemic and free of bad fats.
 

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DammitLetMeIn said:
Marcules said:
Any association with me is bad for your cred. Sry about that.

Anyhow, So that I don't f*** up again, can you please give me a diet to follow? I plan on ordering that book you told me about, but I don't have the money right now for it.

I can give you the relevant info from the book regarding diet when I get a chance. Don't worry about buying it.

The key to a good diet imho is to keep it low glycemic and free of bad fats.
why dont you tell him about the raw chicken? :shock: do you want Marcules to lose his hair?!
 

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hmm alot of soy protein... been having any CCS side effects...
Bisexual fantasys ... ?
 

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OK, Marcules, I've put in bold the dietary info.:

Quotes from Dr. Michael Colgan's book 1:

(1.) 'If you feed mice a typical Western diet, they develop prostate disease'

'The crucial difference between these diets was the higher saturated fat content of the Western food'

(I can provide more info. if anyone wants)

(2.) 'Meats, especially red meats, are not only high in saturated fats, but also contain high levels of arachidonic acid. This preformed Omega-6 fat is the precursor of a highly inflammatory compound in your body called Prostglandin E2'

'Men who eat large amounts of red meats are likely to create a pro-inflammatory condition in all their tissues'

'We have demonstrated the anti-inflammatory benefits of giving up red meat with many hundreds of athletes over the last 25 years. The levels of arachidonic acid in their bodies decline dramatically within weeks. Rates of connective tissue injury and other inflammatory conditions also decline by up to 70%'.

(3.) Quoting Dr. William Fair of Sloan-Kettering Cancer Hospital in New York: 'We can take a man with a high PSA, put him on a diet containing only 15% fat calories and watch his PSA drop by 20% in three months'.

'Remember saturated fats are not only in meats and dairy products by also include all hydrogenated vegetable fats in margerine, cooking oils and baked goods'

Quotes from Michael Colgan's book 2:

(1) 'About age 30, males start converting more of their testosterone into another form called dihydrotestosterone'

'In combination with some other compounds, increased dihydrotestosterone causes male pattern baldness'

(2) 'First, cut down on animal protein which may be pushing your dihydrotestosterone too high'

'Second, cut all animal fat'

Third, cut polyunsaturated fats (on the premise that they're just as bad as animal fats.

Some supporting material I found:

Red meat, which contains more than 50 percent fat, has also been associated with an increased incidence of prostate cancer.32

A high-fat diet increases the level of insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1).33 High levels of IGF-1 increase the risk of prostate cancer.34,35

(As we know, IGF-1 is raised in vertex baldness - 'In addition, for each 59 ng/mL increase in IGF-1, the odds of having vertex baldness doubled (95% CI [1.0 to 4.6] ).' - http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1689341 )

http://healthy-aging.advanceweb.com/com ... 07-01-2006

Volume 7 Number 10, Obesity & Prostate Cancer, II: The key to longer life may well be eating less: 1500 calories for women, 1800 for men elevated IGF1 levels, as well as the proteins that appear to be involved in prostate cancer progression, ûare involved in aging, and can be altered by diet. One of the disadvantages of an Atkins-like high protein diet (particularly one rich in animal protein) ûis that it stimulates IGF1 production

http://www.prostateforum.com/backissues.htm
 

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Personally, I don't feel animal protein is the problem.

I believe that animal fat associated with animal protein and high-glycemic carbohydrates are the problem.
 

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Marcules said:
Ok, so eat fish, ham, turkey, and chicken. You got it!

Ham is high in salt. Plus, many health gurus say theres something in pork which just doesn't react well with humans. I'm sure you can find something about it on the web.

The chicken/turkey is good as long as its skinless because skin contains the fat.

I would eat high-fat fish sparingly too - based on personal experience.

Fat from good sources include cold pressed oilive oil, avocadoes etc.
 
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