Nolvadex, how often?
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if you HAVE gyno nolvadex will not help you... NOTHING will help you, only 'the knife'... as soon as you feel a little burning or itching in your niples start nolvadex! 40 mg/day for a week and then 10 mg/day for the rest of the time... when you end it, the gyno will propably just return.. if not also stopping the 'reason' (propecia), or lower the dosage(which might not even is enough).....
Actually, gyno can be reduced with tamoxifen (Nolvadex) therapy as well as using aromatase inhibitors like anastrozole (Arimidex) or letrozole (Femara). But if these don't work and the gyno is solid, surgery is required.
Running Nolvadex or the other drugs as a PCT (post-cycle therapy) or concurrently with AAS (anabolic androgenic steroids) is normal protocol but not with finasteride. If you notice gyno with finasteride, stop the finasteride. According to medical research, ceasing finasteride treatment alleviates the gyno and its progression.
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Running Nolvadex or the other drugs as a PCT (post-cycle therapy) or concurrently with AAS (anabolic androgenic steroids) is normal protocol but not with finasteride. If you notice gyno with finasteride, stop the finasteride. According to medical research, ceasing finasteride treatment alleviates the gyno and its progression.
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the 40 mg for a week and 10 mg afterwars is not only a pct for roids...
and if the gyno first 'IS THERE' you can not make it disappear with tamoxifen or arimidex....
but yes, if it's only the BEGINNING of gyno, nolva can help..
and if the gyno first 'IS THERE' you can not make it disappear with tamoxifen or arimidex....
but yes, if it's only the BEGINNING of gyno, nolva can help..
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Sigh. Read up, buddy. Next time, don't make claims you can't support. There are more studies, but I think you get the picture with these, guldtanden. While I agree that these drugs are better used as a prophylactic measure, there appears to be therapeutic benefits too, as clearly outlined below.
"We report here our experience with two cases of gynecomastia in men undergoing TRT who were successfully treated with the aromatase inhibitor anastrozole."
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage. ... letype=pdf
"In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 80 boys, aged 11–18 yr, with pubertal gynecomastia that had not reduced over a 3-month interval, subjects received either anastrozole (1 mg) or placebo once daily for 6 months. A response was defined as a 50% or greater reduction in the calculated volume of both breasts combined using ultrasonography measurements."
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/conten ... ;89/9/4428
"In the present double-blind crossover study, one-month courses of a placebo or the antiestrogen tamoxifen (10 mg given orally bid) were compared in random order. Seven of ten patients experienced a decrease in the size of their gynecomastia due to tamoxifen (P less than 0.005)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Citation
"These preliminary results suggest that low-dose tamoxifen is useful in treating painful gynecomastia for those patients on flutamide/finasteride combination therapy for advanced prostate carcinoma."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Citation
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hmm... then I just DONT understand why several specialists in Denmark told me that the only way i could treat my gyno was by getting plastic surgery... and therefore i got it... my gyno was VERY mild, some of the specialists told me it nearly wasn't there, and was not happy to operate..
but hey, i really hope you're right, and the next time i get gyno, i will try youre way.... i just have my doubts...
but as i said, if the gyno is only only at its 'pre-stadiums', yes you CAN treat is as you say..! i think thats what you are also talking about!
but hey, i really hope you're right, and the next time i get gyno, i will try youre way.... i just have my doubts...
but as i said, if the gyno is only only at its 'pre-stadiums', yes you CAN treat is as you say..! i think thats what you are also talking about!
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i think you can lose some of the fat in the gyno by tamoxifen... but the solid tissue can only be redused very little... other way there would be no reason for the expensive surgery... it just doesnt make sense..!
guldtanden said:
Keep in mind that the specialists make more money by recommending surgery rather than trying other methods to treat gyno. For some stubborn gyno, surgery may be necessary, I agree, but tamoxifen and anastrozole can work for some people. So it might pay to try and treat the gyno via medicines rather than take the chance of a bad surgery and pay extra. If the meds don't work, the surgery is still always an option.
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i just KNEW you would say that thing with earning money... and therefore i was also very close to wright this before:
NO they didn't tell me surgery was the only option to earn money..
1) The first ones i spoke with, where NOT the same who was going to do the surgery...
2) the one who finally did it, was a friend of my father, so she didn't make even one penny on me..
Drinkrum I know you have a lot of knowledge, and therefore i respect you! But i think we can conclude that tamoxifen etc. will (might) work when gyno has not yet really developed...
when you first got a big tit, with hard sore tissue in it... theres nothing else but a knife that can help you... but hey this also takes some time! so if you catch it early, yes tamoxifen will often help!!
NO they didn't tell me surgery was the only option to earn money..
1) The first ones i spoke with, where NOT the same who was going to do the surgery...
2) the one who finally did it, was a friend of my father, so she didn't make even one penny on me..
Drinkrum I know you have a lot of knowledge, and therefore i respect you! But i think we can conclude that tamoxifen etc. will (might) work when gyno has not yet really developed...
when you first got a big tit, with hard sore tissue in it... theres nothing else but a knife that can help you... but hey this also takes some time! so if you catch it early, yes tamoxifen will often help!!
Well, as the medical evidence shows, even hard gyno can be treated with anastrozole and tamoxifen. The drugs will at least reduce the gyno to a point where less surgery is required or the patient is not too bothered.
Sorry if the comment regarding the doctors struck a nerve. I come from a family of docs and we're all ethical, but there are a lot of uneducated and greedy ones as well. Human nature, I guess.
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Sorry if the comment regarding the doctors struck a nerve. I come from a family of docs and we're all ethical, but there are a lot of uneducated and greedy ones as well. Human nature, I guess.
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DontWannaBeLikeMike
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So if i feel i have very light gyno...which one of drugs should i take or should i use them together. Also do i stop finasteride while taking them?
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Maybe there is in ... but this is denmark.. not your country... here most surgery is beeing done by the the 'state'.. so actually its more EXPENSIVE to do surgery than not.. so lets just forget your comment!
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yes... it can reduce it... but NOT totally remove it.. it's not possible... unless its onle at its prestadiums!
DontWannaBeLikeMike
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I have kaizer insurance...its garbage. Would they recommend any of these drugs or are they illegal? I dont know crap right now...sorry guys. Also, What do I exactly take?
