I just started to notice the front of my hair receding about a year ago and its at about a Norwood 2. i'm only 23 and don't want to start propecia. from what i read, it seems like i might get results from just 2% spironolactone in addition to nizoral every 3-4 days. is spironolactone worth trying alone or do i need to use minoxidil as well?
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George Costanza
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Get on something, anything before it's too late. I would use as much stuff as possible. The only downside is that if you do regrow hair you won't know which product caused it. That's my problem, I started almost everything in my regimen at the same time. But I don't care if it works, I'll stick too it all. The longer you wait to use something, the less good it is probably going to do you.
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Start the Nizoral, definitely.
I find your idea of using spironolactone 2% as a beginning treatment very intriguing. Not a bad call at all for a new NW2. Give it a shot, it's relatively cheap and since you aren't using minoxidil you won't have the smell issue that some have run into.
I find your idea of using spironolactone 2% as a beginning treatment very intriguing. Not a bad call at all for a new NW2. Give it a shot, it's relatively cheap and since you aren't using minoxidil you won't have the smell issue that some have run into.
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Another cheap and cost effective thing to add besides the 2% spironolactone is folligen. However i'm still confused why people down want to take finasteride other than the cost.
i decided not to start finasteride because from what i read it doesn't seem to be too effective on saving the hairline. plus i rather not deal with the potential sides.
here was my plan, let me know what everyone thinks.
either crinagen or 2% spironolactone once a day at night
folligen cream at night
nizoral 2x weekly
if this didn't work i would add minoxidil. the thing with my hairline is that no one seems to notice but me and i can def tell. i want to stop the receding but i also don't want too much shedding right now because i think i'm catching it at the initial stages and if i need to later i'll add minoxidil and deal with the shedding.
opinions and/or comments are appreciated. thanks!
here was my plan, let me know what everyone thinks.
either crinagen or 2% spironolactone once a day at night
folligen cream at night
nizoral 2x weekly
if this didn't work i would add minoxidil. the thing with my hairline is that no one seems to notice but me and i can def tell. i want to stop the receding but i also don't want too much shedding right now because i think i'm catching it at the initial stages and if i need to later i'll add minoxidil and deal with the shedding.
opinions and/or comments are appreciated. thanks!
The Gardener
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I would suggest spironolactone over Crinagen, personally speaking.
Crinagen's main active ingredients are Saw Palmetto and Azelaic Acid. Saw Palmetto, internally taken, inhibits DHT synthesis on paper but it's effects on hairloss as a result are far from proven at best and sketchy. And this is assuming that one takes it internally, as a topical, all bets are off. Skin is fairly waterproof and only molecules that can be dissolved into an effective carrier substance will significantly penetrate it. Assuming that topical Saw Palmetto will hold a candle to any supposed results that an internal will give you is tantamount to saying that pouring beer on your head as opposed to drinking it will get you drunk.
Azelaic Acid is clinically known to inhibit DHT synthesis, and is the key additive to minoxidil that Dr Lee markets as Xandrox. A past contributor here who visited Dr Lee asked him the question point blank, which topical DHT inhibitor is better, spironolactone or Azelaic Acid. His response was, "spironolactone, hands down." And this is coming from a person whose trademark product is differentiated from plain minoxidil by the addition of Azelaic Acid. This is NOT to say that Azelaic Acid is in any way a poor product or does not create excellent results for people who use it. The addition of Azelaic Acid to minoxidil to make Xandrox is an improvement to many Xandrox users. In other words, this is just to say that if you have to take ONE topical in isolation, I think that spironolactone would be a better and more cost effective choice than Crinagen.
Crinagen's main active ingredients are Saw Palmetto and Azelaic Acid. Saw Palmetto, internally taken, inhibits DHT synthesis on paper but it's effects on hairloss as a result are far from proven at best and sketchy. And this is assuming that one takes it internally, as a topical, all bets are off. Skin is fairly waterproof and only molecules that can be dissolved into an effective carrier substance will significantly penetrate it. Assuming that topical Saw Palmetto will hold a candle to any supposed results that an internal will give you is tantamount to saying that pouring beer on your head as opposed to drinking it will get you drunk.
Azelaic Acid is clinically known to inhibit DHT synthesis, and is the key additive to minoxidil that Dr Lee markets as Xandrox. A past contributor here who visited Dr Lee asked him the question point blank, which topical DHT inhibitor is better, spironolactone or Azelaic Acid. His response was, "spironolactone, hands down." And this is coming from a person whose trademark product is differentiated from plain minoxidil by the addition of Azelaic Acid. This is NOT to say that Azelaic Acid is in any way a poor product or does not create excellent results for people who use it. The addition of Azelaic Acid to minoxidil to make Xandrox is an improvement to many Xandrox users. In other words, this is just to say that if you have to take ONE topical in isolation, I think that spironolactone would be a better and more cost effective choice than Crinagen.