NANO Experts/PLS Help.....

truetobe

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I have been using Nano Shampoo for a few years now. I use it pretty well daily and leave it on for 3-5min. I only have lost a bit of hair on the templates (receding) and am 34 years old.
I believe that Nano has certainly helped in slowing down my hair loss. I have very good/thick hair all around my head. Its just the templates where it is slightly receding.
I have some questions, I am putting them to the ppl who have a good knowledge of NANO products. Would love to get them off the proctors website but the information is limited (zero). Also by emailing proctor himself would be like waiting for Saddam to come back and rule Iraq again.
So, here it goes......
I bought NANO Shampoo, NANO Conditioner and Prox-N.

1) Can I use the shampoo daily?

2) Where should I put the prox-N drops? all over scalp even non affected areas or where it is receding?

3) I hear it is no good to leave hair wet after shower and to blow dry, should I put prox-n on before blow drying or after?

4) After swimming in the pool should I just rinse my hair or use NANO or a regular shampoo (I would be using NANO in the morning before swimming)

5) Is it best to leave NANO Shampoo/Conditioner on for 5 minutes or only 1-2 minutes?

Thanks for any help you can give.....and Happy New Year.
 
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truetobe said:
1) Can I use the shampoo daily?

2) Where should I put the prox-N drops? all over scalp even non affected areas or where it is receding?

3) I hear it is no good to leave hair wet after shower and to blow dry, should I put prox-n on before blow drying or after?

4) After swimming in the pool should I just rinse my hair or use NANO or a regular shampoo (I would be using NANO in the morning before swimming)

5) Is it best to leave NANO Shampoo/Conditioner on for 5 minutes or only 1-2 minutes?

Thanks for any help you can give.....and Happy New Year.

1) Yes, but you should consider using it 5 days a week and using Nizoral shampoo twice a week. That might be better for you because you'd be hitting the hair loss from two different angles, and I don't think that 7 days a week is particularly more effective than 5.

2) Put the prox-n drops on the affected areas. No real point putting it in areas where you don't have any loss.

3) Not good for what? leaving the hair wet and letting it air dry won't affect your hair loss at all. i'm not sure whether it's easier to apply the prox-n to wet or dry hair since i've never used it.

4) i'd honestly just rinse your hair. there's no real point to shampooing your hair more than once a day and it would just be a waste of the Nano anyway.

5) i think if you could leave it on for 5 minutes that you might see better results than only leaving it on for 1 or 2, but dr proctor says that 1 or 2 is sufficient, so i dunno.


i'd also consider using something that actually stops hair loss. all the things you are using are regrowth agents but you don't have something in there, even just another topical like spironolactone, that could possibly stop your hair loss. obviously the #1 thing i would recommend is propecia and talking to your doctor about it.
 

47thin

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Has Prox-N been helpful to many? I've been using Nano Shampoo, Tricomin and Nizoal, and I wonder if that is enough. I can't use minoxidil because of the rapid heartbeat. Ny hair is just starting to thin, but I know, if you wit to long, most stuff wont help. Any suggestions??
 

47thin

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Has Prox-N been helpful to many? I've been using Nano Shampoo, Tricomin and Nizoal, and I wonder if that is enough. I can't use minoxidil because of the rapid heartbeat. Ny hair is just starting to thin, but I know, if you wit to long, most stuff wont help. Any suggestions??
 

truetobe

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Thanks JMan.

I did try propecia...but only for 2 weeks. After getting it from my Doctor I did some research and didnt like what I found. Also it may be in my head or it would be propecia but I felt damn lethargic and kind of weird. I also go swimming and to the gym daily and am in the process of getting a new biz up and running so dont think it a good idea. Also as I said I read some stuff and I just dont want to screw with my hormones. Not saying its not good for other ppl.
 

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I get the tiredness side from taking finasteride.. I take it in the evening now and that seems better...you can always reduce the dose to 0.5mg which reduces the sides but still has good effect on reducing DHT.
 

truetobe

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Nick4441 said:
I get the tiredness side from taking finasteride.. I take it in the evening now and that seems better...you can always reduce the dose to 0.5mg which reduces the sides but still has good effect on reducing DHT.

just not worth it IMO. feeling tired and low sex drive and who knows what the sides are in the long run. I think if it came to that I would rather just shave my head. But that is for me. Not saying that that is what everyone else should do.
 

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47thin said:
Has Prox-N been helpful to many?

It's been helpful to me. You can see my before-and-after pictures on this site, along with the analysis of my experience with Prox-N.

Bryan
 

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Nick4441 said:
I get the tiredness side from taking finasteride.. I take it in the evening now and that seems better...you can always reduce the dose to 0.5mg which reduces the sides but still has good effect on reducing DHT.

Even though that claim is made all over hairloss sites, I can't think of the slightest bit of scientific justification for it. If cutting your finasteride dose in half only slightly impairs its ability to reduce DHT, then what makes you think that side-effects would be reduced more than only slightly? Have you ever thought about that little logical conundrum?

Bryan
 

truetobe

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Hey Bryan,

Seen your name a bit around the forum and on topics such as NANO.
You seem to know your stuff.
Could you give me your opinion on my questions.

Thanks.
 

Bryan

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I agree with what JayMan said. However, I'll add one more comment regarding #3: DO NOT BLOW-DRY YOUR HAIR AFTER APPLYING HAIRLOSS TOPICALS!

There was actually a topical minoxidil study several years ago in which the researchers caught one of their test-subjects blow-drying his hair after using Rogaine, and they found that the hot air currents apparently blew most of the minoxidil right off his scalp. It GREATLY reduced the absorption into his scalp.

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Bryan

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The following is a copy-paste of something I posted several years ago on another hairloss site about the issue of using a blow-drier:


Do NOT blow dry your hair after applying minoxidil!! Check out: "Percutaneous Absorption of Minoxidil in Man", Thomas J. Franz, MD, Arch Dermatol 1985;121:203-206.

He had his subjects use radioactive minoxidil, and then attempted to recover ALL of it afterwards by detecting and measuring the amounts found in their urine and feces, the unabsorbed amounts still sitting on their scalps, and even the traces left on their pillowcases. They tried to account for EVERY BIT of the original minoxidil. Unfortunately, most of it went unaccounted for. Here is a particularly relevant paragraph from the study, and you'll see why I'm pointing it out to you:

"The low recovery, 43% to 47% of the dose, is not totally unexpected considering that the applied radioactive medication was left on the unprotected skin for 24 hours. It is presumed that the missing 53% to 57% was simply lost from the surface of the skin via one of several possible mechanisms including exfoliation; inadvertent contact with hands, clothing, or other objects; volatilization; or physical displacement by air currents. Evidence for the latter was unexpectedly obtained from subject 3. The Table shows that the total recovery of surface radioactivity for this subject following the application on day 9 was only 2.4%, the lowest for either application for any subject and clearly outside the range to be expected on the basis of the observed variability. This subject admitted that he had used a hair dryer several hours following the second application of the radioactive dose in an attempt to dry the nonvolatile propylene glycol that was still present on his scalp. It is presumed that this procedure blew a sizable portion of the radioactive minoxidil off the surface of the scalp".
 

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Thanks Bryan for that info.

I have seen a bit of the "Nizoral" stuff also. So this stuff actually prevents hair loss whilst NANO is for rejuvinating? Thought NANO was for preventing and creating new hair?
If Nizoral is good for preventing hair loss then why dont they advertise it on the Nizoral site?

I shall apply Prox-N after blow drying my hair in future. Thanks!
 

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NANO probably helps hair growth by a similar mechanism as minoxidil (whatever that actually is), since the two molecules are rather similar.

The makers of Nizoral can't advertise it for treating hairloss, since that would require them to get FDA approval for that additional claim. That would cost huge amounts of money.

There have only been a couple of rather smallish studies suggesting a beneficial effect of Nizoral for male pattern baldness. Exactly how it supposedly works has been a matter of controversy for a long time.

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Are there any downsides to using nano shampoo? I thought at one point I read something about it might cause shedding, but I may be thinking of something else.


Nick4441 said:
I get the tiredness side from taking finasteride.. I take it in the evening now and that seems better...you can always reduce the dose to 0.5mg which reduces the sides but still has good effect on reducing DHT.
Now it causes TIREDNESS too? I've never heard of that. Goddamn, these drugs....
 

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Yes, Nano shampoo would be much better than revivogen shampoo. IMO I think that Nano shampoo, tricomin shampoo, and nizoral are the best treatment shampoos going.
 

truetobe

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viperfish said:
Yes, Nano shampoo would be much better than revivogen shampoo. IMO I think that Nano shampoo, tricomin shampoo, and nizoral are the best treatment shampoos going.

Thanks for that viperfish.

Where can I get all the Q` and A`s regarding NANO? im talking about a website that gives info on Proctor himself and his products. His site is pretty average
If proctor went into biz with someone who knew "biz" he could certainly be far more wealthy!
also why doesnt this site sell NANO but other shampoos?
 

47thin

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Bryan, I think I will give Prox-n a shot. Are there any sides- rapid heartbeat, etc, that come with it? If not, I think it sounds like a plan- nizoral/Nano followed by Tricomin in the mornings and Prox-n in the evening before bed.
 

truetobe

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actually come to think of it is there any sides with NANO Shampoo or Prox-N?
decrease testosterone or anything?
 
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