Most Easily Applicable Liquid Adhesive With The Shortest Drying Time And Just 1 Layer Needed?

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I am thinking of in case of´quick touchups in small areas only when time is really short, so I don't even care, whether it's too toxic or not (water or solvent based), because the amount used will be so small anyway.

I use Ghostbond Platinum otherwise, but it needs 4 layers and 4 mins, or Transdermal which needs 5 layers -- that takes a lot of time. Less layers just don't work in case of Transdermal unfortunately. I am dreaming of something that will make my touchups not much longer than a regular trip to the bathroom.

I am going to try Walker Great White. But I know absolutely nothing of solvent based liquids. Can anyone suggest me a list one of those please for testing?

Thank you!
 

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I am thinking of in case of´quick touchups in small areas only when time is really short, so I don't even care, whether it's too toxic or not (water or solvent based), because the amount used will be so small anyway.

I use Ghostbond Platinum otherwise, but it needs 4 layers and 4 mins, or Transdermal which needs 5 layers -- that takes a lot of time. Less layers just don't work in case of Transdermal unfortunately. I am dreaming of something that will make my touchups not much longer than a regular trip to the bathroom.

I am going to try Walker Great White. But I know absolutely nothing of solvent based liquids. Can anyone suggest me a list one of those please for testing?

Thank you!

ORWG - Oil resistant white glue instructs one coat on skin.
 

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Is it really possible that 4 layers of one glue can give the same hold time as just 1 layer of another?
 

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Damn, Hairdirect doesn't have it. What's its hold time though?
That question is going to vary based on the individual's body chemistry. No matter which adhesive. Its an extended wear time though.
 

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Is it really possible that 4 layers of one glue can give the same hold time as just 1 layer of another?
I think the multiple layers is not so much for better adhesion... It's so lace can sink down into it and disappear. For best adhesion you would apply one layer to the scalp and one on the base....but never apply directly to a lace base.
 

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That question is going to vary based on the individual's body chemistry. No matter which adhesive. Its an extended wear time though.
Still all products promise some period. Ghostbond promises 4 weeks. If ORWG doesn't even promise that much it's probably not as strong.
 

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Still all products promise some period. Ghostbond promises 4 weeks. If ORWG doesn't even promise that much it's probably not as strong.

That's not true. None of them promise anything. They say up to 4 weeks. That's a nice way of saying never to exceed four weeks.....

You had asked for a recommendation on adhesive/white bond that does not require 4 coats and this is the only one.

Again, longevity is going to vary from person to person... but oil resistant white glue has extremely high ratings.
 

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What about solvent based adhesives? I've completely ignored them because of toxicity, but in such a small amount and laying on top of old glue on my scalp anyway, that is not an issue anymore. So I know nothing of them -- maybe they would be better for this kind or touchup only work?
 

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Walker's Great White doesn't seem to work as good as Transdermal for this unfortunately. The next day it has lifted again. This sometimes also happens with Transdermal, but not 3 days straight.
 

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Maybe even small tape strips are good for this, if the lift is around the back perimeter? Although I've understood that tape is weaker than glue. Applying the tape in that position may be difficult though I guess.
 

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What about solvent based adhesives? I've completely ignored them because of toxicity, but in such a small amount and laying on top of old glue on my scalp anyway, that is not an issue anymore. So I know nothing of them -- maybe they would be better for this kind or touchup only work?

There hasn't been any breakthroughs in adhesives in the last two or three decades.

Most all white bonds are basically the same ingredients just in different quantities/ratios... the same applies to acrylic.

The highest rated acrylic is ultrahold. The highest rated white bonds are ghost Bond platinum and oil resistant white glue.
 

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Maybe even small tape strips are good for this, if the lift is around the back perimeter? Although I've understood that tape is weaker than glue. Applying the tape in that position may be difficult though I guess.

Everyone's body chemistry is different....but I get a tremendously longer hold with tape vs liquid adhesive.....Usually 3 fold.

I use ultrahold tape on the perimeter and ultra hold liquid on the hairline.
 

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There hasn't been any breakthroughs in adhesives in the last two or three decades.

Most all white bonds are basically the same ingredients just in different quantities/ratios... the same applies to acrylic.

The highest rated acrylic is ultrahold. The highest rated white bonds are ghost Bond platinum and oil resistant white glue.
Yes and water based adhesives are newer, but I've also understood that they're weaker a little bit, not as water-resistant.

Is it okay to apply solvent based adhesive with just fingertip?
 

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Yes and water based adhesives are newer, but I've also understood that they're weaker a little bit, not as water-resistant.

Is it okay to apply solvent based adhesive with just fingertip?
I would say substantially weaker, water based. No, I would not recommend applying acrylic with your finger. I would use the supplied brush.

Doing a small touch up of the hairline, you can use a toothpick or pin.
 

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I would say substantially weaker, water based. No, I would not recommend applying acrylic with your finger. I would use the supplied brush.

Doing a small touch up of the hairline, you can use a toothpick or pin.
Water based adhesives weaker than solvent based? I've understood you're not even using water based adhesives because of this.
 

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Water based adhesives weaker than solvent based? I've understood you're not even using water based adhesives because of this.
Correct on both counts. If you sweat with a water-based adhesive....or get it wet... it's going to bring it back to near liquid form and turn white again.....Until the water dissipates and it dries again.
 

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Correct on both counts. If you sweat with a water-based adhesive....or get it wet... it's going to bring it back to near liquid form and turn white again.....Until the water dissipates and it dries again.

Wow, does that sound annoying...
 

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Pro hair labs said ghost bond never reverts to a semi cured state?
 
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