Minoxidil applications,discussion.

[maximiliandreams]

There is a legend about minoxidil and his applications.So..if no one knows how exactly minoxidil is working,so how can he say that if you use it more often you will have no greater results...on my kirkland bottle there is a letter which says : "using more or more often will not improve results",OK.I will agree that there were a lot of studies about minoxidil,but there is something that we lose here...i will understand too,if someone of you say that i am not a doctor,and the people who developed this product,know more than me...ok if we must follow this,so no one should use minoxidil on top and on hairline..but it works there right?And what about,that it's told NOT FOR USE BY WOMEN,but as we know women use even the 5% potion,so what's the problem ...between 5% and 2% ..the ingredient is the same,i dont believe that some lady will start minoxidil if she has no problems with her hair,so what is this bullshit that 5% is not for use by women,what? they will regrow TOO Much and become ALF? well come one,all of this is discovered by "US the users of the stuff....for example i am a diffuse thinner and if i should believe the company,i should not use minoxidil because it wouldn't be effective for me,but it was! so the same applies to finasteride,where it's told that has best results only on vertex...but it also regrows hair on top and hairline..but this another disscussion.So,to continue their research and studies it costs a lot of money.So i think that this is bullshit "Using more or more often will not improve results".So if minoxidil is not time dependent,so why can't we maintain with only 1 application per day? I will tell you why.Because this minoxidil ingredient has it's own life,and i am sure as hell,that if i have to choose between :

1 application per day / every 24 hours
2 applications per day / every 12 hours
3 applications per day / every 8 hours

i will deffinitely try the third option,so what do you guys think about it,well come on,how can they say that "using more or more often will not improve results",when they dont know how exactly minoxidil is working,and every person is different..as finasteride,it's told on theory how does finasteride work,and if we must follow that,so every person who is suffering from male pattern baldness,should be ok with finasteride,but practically it's not that way... and they say that you have to apply it twice per day,so what does it tells you,it tells you that minoxidil has duration.And i will try to apply it 3 times per/day...at least i dont loose anything right?

 

[kc444]

I'm not sure if there's a question in there, but I too am a diffuse thinner and I was looking at the bottle the other day. It says that Rogaine is less effective for large areas of hair loss. Seeing that the dose is the same for everyone and minoxidil is only effective in the immediate area that you put it on, could it be that the reason it is less effective is because diffuse thinners are trying to spread one dose over a larger area, resulting in less minoxidil per square inch of scalp? I've been thinking about doubling my dose for this reason.

I blame the FDA.

 

[maximiliandreams]

lol,dude do you really think that you can cover your scalp with 1 ml minoxidil?i use between 2 - 2.5ml per application...

 

[Bryan]

There is a legend about minoxidil and his applications.So..if no one knows how exactly minoxidil is working,so how can he say that if you use it more often you will have no greater results...on my kirkland bottle there is a letter which says : "using more or more often will not improve results",OK.

They said the same thing about 2% Rogaine, too, and we know now that was just a lot of baloney. It's just something that the FDA requires them to say, regardless of whether or not it makes any sense.

 

[maximiliandreams]

yea,but it's bullshit !

 

[Bryan]

yea,but it's bullshit !

That's what I just got through saying! ("Baloney" is English slang for "bullshit".)

 

[maximiliandreams]

So guys what do you think... minoxidil 3 times per day.every 8 hours? :dunno:

 

[kc444]

According to a few sources on the internet, topical minoxidil has a half-life of 22 hours. If this is true, you probably won't see any benefit from using it more than twice a day.

 

[Bryan]

According to a few sources on the internet, topical minoxidil has a half-life of 22 hours.

Like I said in another thread, I avoid use of the term "half-life" with regard to a topical, because of the vagueness and uncertainty of what that's supposed to mean.

 

[Boomer01]

If the effects of minoxidil wear off after 1.5-2 years, why do you need to continue usage to prevent the "minoxidil hairs" from falling out? Apparently the minoxidil doesn't help grow hair after that period.

 

[Bryan]

If the effects of minoxidil wear off after 1.5-2 years, why do you need to continue usage to prevent the "minoxidil hairs" from falling out? Apparently the minoxidil doesn't help grow hair after that period.

I think it's obvious that minoxidil doesn't "wear off" after 1.5-2 years. It may stop growing more new hair after just a few months, but that doesn't mean that it has now become an inert substance like water. Without the minoxidil, that previously regrown hair will fall out quickly, even if it causes no additional new regrowth.

 

[All_The_Above]

Were you planning on applying the liquid minoxidil three times a day, use the foam or a combination of the two? I do not like how greasy and thin the liquid makes my hair look so I only apply it at night and apply the foam in the morning.

I tried the three times a day thing a few months back by applying the foam in the morning and evening, and then applying the liquid at around 10:30 before I went to bed. I stopped this after a month or so because I was going through the foam so quickly that it was becoming extremely expensive and I wasn't seeing huge results. Of course a month isn't long enough to give any definite conclusions about how effective it was, though.

There have been some reports of guys who applied minoxidil two times a day for years and had no success, but then started applying minoxidil three and four times a day and had huge gains. I might give it a try one more time as my hair loss is getting worse and worse every passing day. I am taking dutasteride and finasteride every night, using tons of foam in the morning and tons of liquid at night and nothing seems to be slowing down my hair loss.

I recently started looking into products that are supposed to temporarily give the illusion of thicker hair. Two products that got very positive reviews were Marc Anthony instantly thick hair thickening cream and Samy fat hair thickening spray. I ordered both from the internet and they should be arriving in the next week. After they arrive, I will write a post with pictures showing my hair dried naturally, my hair dried with a blow dryer and my hair after using these two products and being blow dried. I am really crossing my fingers that these products will work because my confidence is completely devastated at this point.

 

[kc444]

If I double my dosage or begin to use it three times a day, will I experience another full-on shed? I've been using minoxidil for about 6 weeks and was hoping to begin seeing results within the next couple months.. not sure if I should reset the timer so to speak.

 

[maximiliandreams]

Using MORE minoxidil will not bring the best results,i am talking about the dosage,just cover your problem areas good with minoxidil.I think it will have good results if you use it 3 times a day...i am considering to start this experiment. every 8 years minoxidil.

 

[rcom440]

If the effects of minoxidil wear off after 1.5-2 years, why do you need to continue usage to prevent the "minoxidil hairs" from falling out? Apparently the minoxidil doesn't help grow hair after that period.

That's not true. Minoxidil will work as long are you are using it.

 

[franky123]

Half life is exactly what it sounds like. A product with a half life of 22 hours means that after 22 hours, half of the product is still "available" in your system. You can try to use it 3x a day, but remember that you will have greater sides. Anything that irritates the scalp is not good for re-growth.

Good luck

 

[maximiliandreams]

Well,i have no side effects from minoxidil...may be sometime itching,but i think that's because of the nizoral 2% keto cream,not 100% sure... well,if minoxidil has 22 hours half-life,why should we use it twice a day !!! That's my questions guys..well come on,if 1 application is ok,and you can regrow your hair and even maintain,why they say to use it twice a day,where is the logic ? first we know that minoxidil has 22 hours half-life,but we all know that using minoxidil 1 time per day is not enough...so ultimately there is DOSE depending...

 

[Bryan]

Half life is exactly what it sounds like. A product with a half life of 22 hours means that after 22 hours, half of the product is still "available" in your system.

Sweet Mother of Mercy, stop talking about "half-life" in the context of a simple topical like minoxidil! That's so ridiculous!

 

[maximiliandreams]

Half life is exactly what it sounds like. A product with a half life of 22 hours means that after 22 hours, half of the product is still "available" in your system.

Sweet Mother of Mercy, stop talking about "half-life" in the context of a simple topical like minoxidil! That's so ridiculous!

:agree: