I promissed to not come back here but jesus i cant let u keep making a fool out of urself lol..
no steroids EXCEPT testosterone itself are derivate of testosterone lol, ONLY testosterone will increase ur T levels and that is why everytime u take steroids u MUST take testosterone + other drugs or u will get limp penis..
Glad u brought up LDL and HDL, anavar ****s ur LDL and HDL for example it can lower your HDL by like up to 50% and make ur LDL like 30% higher im not sure and that is why none takes it for longer than 4-6 weeks and if u keep a good diet theres not much to worry about..
I do blood tests before, during and after usage and keeping the right diet will keep ur numbers almost normal..
"How do you deal with the risk of left ventricular hypertrophy, fibrosis and heart failure"
Well different steroids will have different effects on ur body.. I have never heard or seen anyone with those problems from steroids.. That is bull****, there hasnt even been any studies on it.. What u just said are possible side effects that could happen but are as rare are getting permanent ED from finasteride, or even rarer..
Steroids kill less people yearly than alchool, less than cigarretws, less than car accidents, less than shark attacks, less than dog attacks.. Thats how dangerous steroids are.. I already said and i will say it again cuz u never read: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDICATION AND POISON IS THE DOSAGE.. YOU CANNOT COMPARE A BODYBUILDER THAT TAKES LITERALLY 20 TIMES MORE STEROIDS THAN A NORMAL/AMAUTER.. IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS COMPARING A NORMAL FINASTERIDE USER TO SOMEONE WHO TAKES 50 MG OF FINASTERIDE DAILY FOR YEARS...
Finasteride indeed doesnt have chances of killing people and is probably less life threatning long term if comparer to steroids but IMO the side effects from finasteride are far worse than steroids side effects and dont list side effects of steroids.. I have been using for many many years and havent had any sides except a bit of acne that went away fast..
I test my heart with many exams every year and in 5 years using steroids in a row there hasnt been any change, still healthy.. Funny right?
Steroids are not illegal as they are meds..
I am justifying its use because if instead of making the devil out of steroids the media:government should teach people the truth so we wouldnt have people like u, "google doctors" who know **** lol
Dude u clearly have no ****ing clue what u r talking about hahah its so ****in funny lol
And it u never read my posts or u just ignore most or u ignore it cuz u have nothing to say agaisnt it..
I dont know why u sttated this argument talking crap to me..
When i graduate med school i can tell u something.. I would rather prescribe a steroid cycle than fina to someone as it defenetly has less side effects..
Just a fun fact for u ok? Not even surr if u r gonna understand any of it but ok
A normal/amauter steroid user usually does around 2 cycles of steroids with around 500mg up to 1.5 grams of different steroids for about 2-4 months and stop.
Bodybuilders take around 15 grams of steroids + 30-40 UI of HGH + Insulin + T3 + IGF1 + other ****.. The least dangerous thing here are the steroids trust me

please dont try to argue with experienced people about subjedts u dont know broz.. Im trying to be a friend here cuz u just sound retarded..
Anywsys usually when some bodybuilder dies it isnt cus ot the dteroids but the other stuff they take but the media often blames on the steroids..
For example on the most famous show of brasil they showed localized oil application ( that is NOT a steroid, merely increases size cuz ur injecting oil) are steroids and is very dangerous..
See how the media will do anything to brainwash and fool ignorant people like u? Im not insultong u, its not ur fault that ur ignorant but there is still time for u to free urself bro,
Good luck man <3
****ing funny guy this CursedMan Hahaha, i just owned him in all my posts and now that he has realized how much crap he said he gave up and gave me a negative reputation comment :'((( ahahah.. Wow dude learn to lose sometimes.. Especially when u know nothing about the subject u cant expect to win a debate :/