Just turned 20 and want some feedback on how serious my hairline situation is

[Grushdeva]

Hey guys, I have kinda lurked on this forum for the last couple of months ever since I noticed my hairline starting to recede noticeably. I just turned 20 and no male on either my mom or dad's side of the family has any hair loss problems. My dad is almost 50 and has the same hairline since he was a kid. My mom's father is almost 70 and has a full head of hair. My other extended relatives don't have hair loss problems either from what I've seen. Because of this, and from the assurance of my parent's that "there is no way you could be losing your hair" I've kind of been in denial. I really want to attack this thing and be proactive about it so if you guys could give me some feedback that would be greatly appreciated.


Here is an imgur album with pictures of my Hair:

http://imgur.com/a/U2Sfq

Thanks

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

hey dear Grushdeva,

I am not an expert in norwood scale , but I would say that is around NW1-2.

just take into account how much hair you are loosing and if it is daily or punctually.

don't rush into any treatment before being fully conscious of your situation.

if it helped, you are welcome

if not , you are welcome all the same.

 

[stop dht]

Dude you are balding sorry and looks very aggressive for frontal area (cause I can see some recession and thinning too far for mature hairline) but time to fight dont waste more time or u will bald too young U gotta start finasteride immediately I m sure u got high chance to regain your hairline and frontal area

 

[zzzzz]

I have the same family history and am balding at 19. Inheritance is very complicated. There isn't so much as a nw2 in my family except for 1 person who is nw3 but I am diffuse nw6-7. That definitely looks like male pattern baldness I would start finasteride 1mg or 1.25mg daily

 

[Grushdeva]

Well I'm glad I'm trying to be proactive about it now! I feel like it's at a stage right now where I can totally keep it from being horribly bad. Thank you for the responses.

 

[stop dht]

btw your childhood photos are so sweet Good luck dude I m sure u will thicken your thin and miniaturized hairs all over your hairline and temples

 

[2bald2young]

male pattern baldness claims another victim

 

[Grushdeva]

So I was researching the Finestaride chemical and I see that there could potentially be some very serious consequences, especially looking at websites like propeciahelp.com. Is this stuff overblown and I really don't have too much to worry about as far as side effects are concerned? Don't really see the point in taking to propecia or a variation of it if it could permanently **** up my hormones.

 

[BrianP]

If u use it for long enough theres a good chance of permanent E D.. My father's friend's marrish got ruined cuz he jsut couldnt perform.. Took him 3 years of medical treatments to get his first erection after quitting finasteride :/

You have to ask urself what is more important: Your penis or your hair?? Cuz its one or the other, you cant have both.. Taking finasteride will make ur penis useless, except for peeing

 

[zzzzz]

it is overblown people on the internet are retarded. The actual FDA studies show no reports of permanent sides/ED, very low occurrence of sides, like 2% or something, all sides resolve after discontinuing treatment shortly. Brian P is a moron.

propecia/finasteride can push you off the cliff if you are already destined to get ED if you know what I mean in a extremely low number of people, but other than that nothing serious when it comes to sides

 

[BrianP]

it is overblown people on the internet are retarded. The actual FDA studies show no reports of permanent sides/ED, very low occurrence of sides, like 2% or something, all sides resolve after discontinuing treatment shortly. Brian P is a moron.

propecia/finasteride can push you off the cliff if you are already destined to get ED if you know what I mean in a extremely low number of people, but other than that nothing serious when it comes to sides

Wow what the ****? why are u insulting me?

Have u ever met the people who have taken fina and claim to not have any sides?

I have personally met my fathers friend who got gyno and ED problems on finasteride.. My own father took 1 month then quit cuz he said his libido was down and erection wasnt as hard.. My cousin was taking finasteride and he quit cuz of ED problems aswell..
A good friend of mine quit cuz he was feeling weird while on it along with not so hard erections as normally..

Its funny how on the internet there are so many people claiming **** all the time.. I have never personally met anyone who got permanent ED but my Endrocrinologist told me about a patient of his who was battling cuz he quit finasteride and his dick wasnt coming back but he was almsot getting better after 1 year of treatment with hormones n ****..

I dont buy that 2% bull****, even if u dont get permanent ED, bad side effects are VERY likely to happen..

But the thing is u dont have to insult me.. U sound like a ****ing ignorant retarded dude like the one i met in a steroids forum..

Some dude asked about X steroid and hairloss on it and i was posting that X steroid is very bad for ur hair because it is not only a DHT derivative but it is a strong one and i have a personal experience with it and lost hair... Then this Ignorant piece of **** like urself came in "Shut up dude u r a moron i had no hairloss on X steroid bla bla bla.." Well dude guess what u r not the only dude in the world, people's bodies work differently and i always think its best to exagerate side effects because many times people are so blind in wanting to keep their hair that they dont even listen to the side effects and regret later on..

I have never insulted u i dont see why u have to do so, u seem to be a very miserable person to come in here and instead of just disagreeing with me u call me a moron lol.. A moron is someone who is always "But this study says this bla bla, that study says that bla bla" Lol, everytime someone argues with u all u do is like "Let me go to google and search some study about this matter.. Oh ok here it is dude according to this study u r wrong because bla bla bla" lol U must be really nice to be around

 

[zzzzz]

I am not stating it doesn't have sides because of my own personal experience. Did the FDA fake their study? Under what incentive? They are as efficient and reputable an organization as any. That guy who said steroids don't cause hair loss is just as bad as you. He had anecdotal evidence that steroids didn't cause his hair loss and you have anecdotal evidence that propecia causes permanent ED in a significant number of people just from 2 guys. Bring up some actual scientific evidence otherwise your statements are worthless

 

[Grushdeva]

Well this little exchange between you guys is a perfect example of how the whole internet feels about this substance it seems. I'm going to think about it a little more but honestly I'm a decently good looking dude who is 6'2" and 210 pounds at 10 percent body fat. I think I might just closely shave my head and keep it that way from now on, I think I could pull it off. In the end it's just hair and I if I shave it I don't have to worry about it anymore haha.

 

[BrianP]

Well, i didnt mean that fina caused ED on everyone and thats why i mentioned only 1 person that i know who had it.. The last sentence where i posted something like "u have to choose ur penis or ur hair" was a joke lol.. But the thing is that a lot of people get some sides like low libido, some erection problems, soft erections, watery semen, gyno, brain fog, change of personality without even noticing while taking finasteride.. most of the times it is not permanent but the longer u take it, the longer it will take for the sides to go away..

We have different views about things, it is clear that u value ur hair more than that and that u see these sides that i mentioned as not so important as hair while me on the other hand see those NON permanent sides as really bad and not worth having hair for..

U were just rude to me for no reason dude :/

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Well this little exchange between you guys is a perfect example of how the whole internet feels about this substance it seems. I'm going to think about it a little more but honestly I'm a decently good looking dude who is 6'2" and 210 pounds at 10 percent body fat. I think I might just closely shave my head and keep it that way from now on, I think I could pull it off. In the end it's just hair and I if I shave it I don't have to worry about it anymore haha.

U should do some steroids, if u want shoot me a pm and we can talk about it bro, anyone who likes to work out have my respect and from ur bodyfat and weight it looks like u do.. im 204 pounds, 5"10 at 8.8% bodyfat.. Trust me there are very mild steroids for hairloss that can help with physique without compromising hair so much..

Although im kinda agaisnt finasteride im a stubborn son of a b**ch and im gonna give it a try in a few months from now and i think u should too, but be aware with any side effects, if u feel any u can just quit if u like..

 

[CursedMen]

Doesn't make sense you take an illegal substance but won't take a legal one. To bad they don't sell logic at Walmart...

 

[BrianP]

Doesn't make sense you take an illegal substance but won't take a legal one. To bad they don't sell logic at Walmart...

If u knew anything about steroids u would know that if you know how to take them with the proper precautions and the right meds to keep things under control then they are safer than finasteride when it comes to health and side effects..

Please dont try to argue with me on this i have years of experience i also consult with one of the top endocrinologists in brasil who has also been a bodybuilder and im in med school right now so please dont try and argue when u know nothing about the subject..

Also steroids are not illegal.. All the steroids i take i use a doctors prescription and get them straight from a legit drug store/pharmacy or a vet pharmacy when its a steroid used on animals with a prescription also.. Steroids are medications just as finasteride :/

Just a fun fact for you: ALL the TOP pro athletes that compete in the olympics, bodybuilding, boxing, mma, UFC, bicycle riders, swimmers, gymnasts, "natural" bodybuilders, soccer players, football players, baseball players etc take or have taken steroids at some point in their life to increase development and please dont try and say "they test their blood for steroids bro, u retard haha bla bla".. Cuz if u knew anything about this subject u would know that there are so many steroids that can be taken and will increase ur performance and get out of ur system with no trace within hours or days :/

More people use steroids than finasteride lol, steroids wont make u big, steroids wont make u ripped or strong unless u have good genetics.. if u have good genetics then u also must have great training and diet and it will depend on what u r focusing, if u r a fighter u wont gain mass, steroids will merely amplify whatever it is that u r training, without mentioning the different drugs and dosages used on each sport.. Im done talking about this cuz its so tireing to try and UNbrainwash people from all the bull**** fed to them their whole lifes

Too bad they dont sell intelligence, logic and knowledge that requires more than a google click to find out :/

 

[CursedMen]

God you are so ****ing ignorant I don't even know what to say. Name one steroid that leaves your body in hours. Steroids aren't illegal? The **** they aren't if you are using them to increase performance..

Anabolic steroids are synthetic derivatives of testosterone that were developed as adjunct therapy for a variety of medical conditions. Today they are most commonly used to enhance athletic performance and muscular development. Both illicit and medically indicated anabolic steroid use have been temporally associated with many subsequent defects within each of the body systems. Testosterone is the preferred ligand of the human androgen receptor in the myocardium and directly modulates transcription, translation, and enzyme function. Consequent alterations of cellular pathology and organ physiology are similar to those seen with heart failure and cardiomyopathy. Hypertension, ventricular remodeling, myocardial ischemia, and sudden cardiac death have each been temporally and causally associated with anabolic steroid use in humans. These effects persist long after use has been discontinued and have significant impact on subsequent morbidity and mortality. The mechanisms of cardiac disease as a result of anabolic steroid use are discussed in this review.
I don't know about you, but I haven't heard of anyone having cardiac issues with Finasteride. I also haven't heard of it having an impact on mortality. Maybe you can check at Costco they might sell logic...

 

[Grushdeva]

uh thanks bro but I'm happy with how my physique currently looks and what I can do naturally. If it aint broke don't fix it right?

 

[BrianP]

I feel sad that humans came to this point of ignorance. Good one bro, just live ur life believing all that is fed to you by google and television

Ignorant is Ignorant and cannot be convinced, i know i wont UNbrainwash u but i will try to show at least the other readers the truth.. Just watch the documentary: Bigger, faster and stronger..

Ok lets go step by step:
I bet u went to google and were like "Side effects of steroids" LOL and u just copied and pasted u dont know half of the meaning of whats written in that text.. I dont feel like argueing with google so i will make this short for u..

Not all anabolic steroids are derivatives of testosterone..
All the stuff u mentioned can be easily avoided like i mentioned in my previous post but ur ignorance *** was too lazy to read when i said that "if you know how to take them with the proper precautions and the right meds to keep things under control they are safer than finasteride"..

Just a little example for you ok? I wont go into all the side effects but 1 example: a lot of steroids cause water retention and that causes high blood pressure (have had it myself), i can easily say that more than 50% of people who take steroids have no clue of what they are doing so they dont take meds to avoid water retention and high blood pressure so they might have heart problems..

Another misconception is that steroids **** ur liver up when they dont.. especially injectable ones (most of them) that are harmless and even orals when taken in moderate dosages dont do harm to ur liver..

A little note for you: what differs medication from "poison"/"drug" is the dosage.. U cant compare the side effects of a bodybuilder who takes literally 20 times more steroids than an amauter bodybuilder like me... It is like comparing someone who takes 1 mg finasteride/day for 5 years with someone who takes 20 mg of finasteride/day for 30 years... just a little example cuz u dont seem to have a lot of logic in ur thinking so im trying to help u..

Ok if you really want to list possible side effects i will take a aspirine side effects:

• heartburn or indigestion
• mild-to-moderate abdominal or stomach cramps, pain, or discomfort

• bruising more easily
• confusion
• dizziness
• fainting
• nausea or vomiting
• pain, buzzing or ringing in ears
• severe or continuing abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning
• unusual tiredness or weakness

• any loss of hearing
• bleeding
• signs of stomach bleeding, such as bloody or black, tarry stools
• swelling of the mouth and throat
• symptoms of an allergic reaction, e.g.:
  • difficulty breathing
  • hives
  • itchy skin rash

wOW bro we better stop taking aspirines.. If u do some research u will find that more people die from taking multivitamins or from riding a bicycle than from taking steroids, steroids are DOWN DOWN that list... I have also NEVER seen or heard of anyone dying from steroids personally, and i have met literally hundreads of people who take them..

I wont be replying to this post anymore cuz u dont know anything about steroids lol, thats obvious.. If u were a lawyer i wouldnt be argueing with u about the law so please dont argue with me about steroids or their effects on humans.. Dont put google into this, knowledge isnt just 1 click away.. And its funny how i said in my previous post "Too bad they dont sell intelligence, logic and knowledge that requires more than a google click to find out :/"

And then u went to google and searched side effects of steroids LOL, u did exactly what i said ignorant people would do hahahah just proves my point.. Dude u have to stop being stubborn seriously, when i dont know **** about the subject i dont try to argue with experienced people and u should know better too bro.. Im giving u a friendly advice, stop trying to be a smartass about everything just cuz u have google 1 click away from you :/

I wish u the best man, if the knowledge u have about steroids makes u happy then so be it, forget what i said and go live ur life happily.. So many people believe in different things and sometimes none of it is true and they are happy and so can u..



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uh thanks bro but I'm happy with how my physique currently looks and what I can do naturally. If it aint broke don't fix it right?

If u r happy then u shouldnt take roids bro, only reason i do is cuz im not happy yet and i couldnt stand living throught life with the physique i have today :/

I honestly wish i was happy with my current physique lol

 

[CursedMen]

All steroids are, in one way or another, based on the T molecule and thus will elevate T levels. If steroids didn't increase T, YOU WOULDN'T GET AN INCREASE IN PERFORMANCE!!!!!!
Awesome take some Lasix you decrease the amount of fluid in the body which gets rid of hypertension easy yeahhh... Because you are very into taking a controlled substance the right way let us talk about how you deal with the increased risk of myocardial infarction and stroke because of blood clotting. Which of course as you know is caused by the increase in LDL and the lowered HDL as well as polycythemia. LDL is bad cholesterol and HDL is the good ****, but I assume you already know that. If that is the case, you are probably eating very health and maybe on some anti-cholesterol medications. What about the polycythemia which as you already know is an abnormal amount of RBC? Which leads to thickening of the blood. How do you deal with the risk of left ventricular hypertrophy, fibrosis and heart failure?

MY POINT IS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY USING A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE THAT HAS KILLED PEOPLE OVER A DRUG THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME ED. NO WHERE IN THIS UNIVERSE WILL THAT EVER MAKE ANY SENSE. I don't give a **** if you use steroids don't make it out to be something so little because it can get people killed.