Is there any risk in using the american crew serum?

[Guest]

I just wondered if there was any risk as one of the ingredients contains Saw Palmetto and read some bad stuff about it...so is there any danger for it being contained in a topical solution??

 

[Cassin]

I just wondered if there was any risk as one of the ingredients contains Saw Palmetto and read some bad stuff about it...so is there any danger for it being contained in a topical solution??

SP isn't so much bad for you as it is a waste for hairloss.

Now considering the price of the serum, you might as well buy Tricomin because that is what it is with Green Tea and SP added into it. It's the Procyte formula.

Now the regular American Crew is a good product that is much cheaper, it's just a weaker version.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the prompt reply cassin. cheers

 

[jfrank]

can you guys cooment of the effectiveness of copper peptides (specifially folligen) If too much is applied, and it dries/sticks to the skin, can it block the hair from growing?

 

[viperfish]

I just wondered if there was any risk as one of the ingredients contains Saw Palmetto and read some bad stuff about it...so is there any danger for it being contained in a topical solution??

SP isn't so much bad for you as it is a waste for hairloss.

Now considering the price of the serum, you might as well buy Tricomin because that is what it is with Green Tea and SP added into it. It's the Procyte formula.

Now the regular American Crew is a good product that is much cheaper, it's just a weaker version.

The Procyte formula does not have green tea and sp. The american crew version does. American Crew is also cheaper than tricomin and there is no proof that tricomin is stronger than A.C. A.C. is essentially the same as Tricomin with a few added ingredients.

 

[Cassin]

The Procyte formula does not have green tea and sp. The american crew version does.

You misunderstood what I said. I didn't say Tricomin has green tea and SP. American Crew uses a licensed Procyte formula. Look at the bottle.

There is no proof that tricomin is stronger than A.C..

If you have used both than you know Tricomin is stronger. Now the serum is basically the same as Tricomin.

Remember American Crew spray and serum are different.

Besides, read this.

HairlossTalk: What exactly will be different about these new American Crew products in comparison to Tricomin®?

RCarmichael: Probably the concentrations are going to be different, and the various ingredients that they put in their formulations will be different. Ours is a fairly medical approach to the hair care arena. The Tricomin® products are really great hair care products products in addition to providing the benefits of Triamino Copper Complex™, but I think that American Crew will probably look more towards performance based styling ability and some of the other aspects that you see in salon products as they incorporate our technology into some of their products.

 

[viperfish]

Cassin,
I still don't think the concentrations are different based upon that statement. I have used both and really can't tell the difference (folligen of course is different). Besides, American Crew also offers a separate serum that has a greater concentration of cu peptides, than that found within the spray, and most likely more than what is found within Tricomin. However, I doubt that the formulas are that much different. American Crew wanted something that was pretty much the same as tricomin. They would not want the concentration of cu peptides to be that much less. That does not make sense.

 

[ShedMaster]

Cassin, some interesting information from Dr. Pickart about copper and tin peptides.... check it out from his email to me:


This whole area of copper peptides and tin peptides is so confusing and
we are slowly working through it. The tin always worked better on hair
stimulation in the animal models but Tricomin and Folligen were
accidents so it was not pursued until recently. Some women with hair
loss have reported very good results.

On the other hand, the tin peptides do not work very well on skin
healing but produce a very smooth incision line and might reduce
scarring after surgery.

 

[Cassin]

American Crew wanted something that was pretty much the same as tricomin. They would not want the concentration of cu peptides to be that much less. That does not make sense.

Viperfish

You need to look at it from a business model point of view.

In no way shape or form does having a license to make the Procyte formula give American Crew the right to make it to the exact same concentration. Yes it is pretty much the same, but diluted. Procyte is not going to spend the millions to go through two rounds of FDA trials, establish themselves, then sell the rights away to what amounts to a competitor and allow them to undercut their own product with a $20 difference in price for the exact same formula. I am quite sure there is stipulations in the agreement in regards to concentration and what they can sell it for. Procyte is not going to sell off the rights to their big gun and undercut themselves.

But hey I could be wrong, I wonder if Bryan or HairLossTalk.com know anything about this.

Shedmaster

Now that is interesting........wow.

 

[Petchsky]

TBH i'm pretty confused about the concentrations in CP's - So straight answer Cassin, to the best of your knowledge are you saying that the serum, which i use, has a lesser concentration that plain tricomin?

Thank you...

EDIT: That being the American crew serum with sp and gt.

 

[Cassin]

TBH i'm pretty confused about the concentrations in CP's - So straight answer Cassin, to the best of your knowledge are you saying that the serum, which i use, has a lesser concentration that plain tricomin?

Thank you...

EDIT: That being the American crew serum with sp and gt.

My best guess is this stuff and Tricomin are basically the same thing.

http://www.mankind.co.uk/ProductDetails ... ctID=21652

And by the way, I am not saying the regular American Crew spray is a rip off since it is weaker. It is good stuff that did a fantastic job and keeping my itch under control.

 

[Petchsky]

That's what i thought...Cheers Cassin