Is Proxiphen a better growth stimulator then standard minoxidil?

[stax]

I was just wondering if Proxiphen is a better hair growth stimulator than lets say Spectral DNC, Rogaine Foam, or a standard 5% Minoxidil?


Any opinions would be great.

Thanks!

 

[Petchsky]

I'd say that the majority of people use minoxidil because its more effective. Not an exact scientific model, but if proxiphen was better than minoxidil more people would use it...although it is more expensive which could put people off.

I've heard good things about proxiphen, just not enough times

 

[Guest]

I'd say that the majority of people use minoxidil because its more effective. Not an exact scientific model, but if proxiphen was better than minoxidil more people would use it...although it is more expensive which could put people off.

I've heard good things about proxiphen, just not enough times

you DO know that proxiphen contains minoxidil as one of its ingredients, don't you?

it's almost unquestionaly better than any of the stuff you listed because of all the extra stuff it contains in addition to the minoxidil. It is like minoxidil plus. The only downside is the expense.

 

[Petchsky]

No i didn't know that Jayman, or forgot it contained minoxidil, been away for a while, but that does invalidate my point somewhat...

So, would you say its better than minoxidil because it has more effective results, or is just better because the ingrediants are superior? And therefore the only reason its not used as much is because of price?

Do you concur MrMan?

 

[MPBWarrior]

it's more effective because the different combination of ingredients, which includes minoxidil, gives a more penetrable effect into the follicle. but like he said, it's expensive.

 

[Guest]

No i didn't know that Jayman, or forgot it contained minoxidil, been away for a while, but that does invalidate my point somewhat...

So, would you say its better than minoxidil because it has more effective results, or is just better because the ingrediants are superior? And therefore the only reason its not used as much is because of price?

Do you concur MrMan?

From dr proctor's website, creator of proxiphen:

"Proxiphen contains minoxidil, as well as the prescription agents phenytoin and spironolactone ( a potent topically-effective antiandrogen ) SODs, copper peptides, TEMPO, PBN, etc.. Over a dozen active ingredients in all. "

The fact that it contains minoxidil, topical spironolactone, as well as all those growth agents like SODs etc makes it far better than simple minoxidil in my opinion. It is like the all in one topical.

 

[The Gardener]

... provided the vehicle substance is equally effective of penetration, as compared to that of straight minoxidil.

 

[Petchsky]

Just been looking at Proxiphen's ingrediants and they are impressive but i've still to find someone who's shouting from the rooftops about the regrowth they have had from it.

There does seem to be posters saying they have just started it but then nothing, no 1 year reports etc... now that could be that they had great results and ran towards the light to rejoin the unbald...

Maybe i just need to search further afield...

Whats the score with minoxidil foam? it seems people prefer this new way of applying minoxidil but is it superior results wise? Habe you contemplated using it Gard?

 

[The Gardener]

The trials show the rogaine foam to be very effective, and apparently hasten the wait period before regrowth.

I have tried it... Cassin was kind enough to toss in a small sample of it with some old dropper-based minoxidil he sold to me, and it is quite easy to apply. I was scared to do so, you know, with that old fear of the minoxidil completely covering my hair in that white "minoxidil dust" leaving one looking like father christmas, but the foam leaves no dust at all!

I still prefer and use the dropper-based stuff, though... partially because I prefer my own styling aids and didn't want my hair covered in a mix of the two, and partially because I enjoy the self-effacing habit of having to drop minoxidil on my head each morning. I suppose it's somewhat of a daily self-flagellation routine that I find quite spiritually liberating.

 

[Petchsky]

The trials show the rogaine foam to be very effective, and apparently hasten the wait period before regrowth.

I suppose it's somewhat of a daily self-flagellation routine that I find quite spiritually liberating.

LOL :lol:

I get ya, as i only apply once a day i can't say i feel to bothered about changing, plus it will be more expensive.

I take it hair cloning/multiplication is still 5/10 years away?

 

[The Gardener]

I take it hair cloning/multiplication is still 5/10 years away?

:lol:

Yep, its about 5 to 10 years away, give or take five to ten years.

 

[Bryan]

So, would you say its better than minoxidil because it has more effective results, or is just better because the ingrediants are superior? And therefore the only reason its not used as much is because of price?

It's not used as much NOT ONLY because of the price, but also because it's simply a rather obscure product that few people know much about, probably because of quite limited advertising and/or promotion on the part of Dr. Proctor. A perfect example of that fact is that YOU YOURSELF don't even know much about it, despite having nearly 1,500 posts under your belt on a popular hairloss forum like this! :wink:

Bryan

 

[Petchsky]

Good point Bryan.

I had heard of it and if i remember rightly you used a similar product, proxphen n ? I did look into using a few years ago but was to poor.

Nevertheless, i stand corrected on my original post

 

[LookingGood!]

It only contains 1 % minoxidil and I dont see how a dose that low is going to be very effective. I know there is one or two studies out there on 1% minoxidil but that's is just it...1 or 2. If you are applying copper peptides, topical spironolactone, the foam or a Dr Lee high dose along with Propecia or avodart you are so covered. The problem with all these topicals is that they all appeal to our greed and everytime someone mentions one or a new one comes out we all rush to it with our antennas up and question our existing regimens which are most likely covering all the bases.
Bottom line we can only take and afford so many of them:!: