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VWdude

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do you think it would be possible that i could go back to looking like i did before i started losing hair with use of propecia?
 

The Rock

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depends how much u lost
 

MiddleAgedManiac

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I was thinking the same thing...before I started minoxidil, my hairloss wasn't noticable. Now, within 6 months of using it, it has accelerated my male pattern baldness.
It's either that, or some of the naturals I have been taking, e.g., Saw Palm, Beta-Sistosterol, etc.
 

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MiddleAgedManiac said:
I was thinking the same thing...before I started minoxidil, my hairloss wasn't noticable. Now, within 6 months of using it, it has accelerated my male pattern baldness.
It's either that, or some of the naturals I have been taking, e.g., Saw Palm, Beta-Sistosterol, etc.

Or it could be that your male pattern baldness was already starting to progess and now has progressed much further... male pattern baldness is progressive by nature...

hard to say
 

MiddleAgedManiac

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It sucks though cause I had such thick hair for so many years. I practically went bald "overnight" -- I'm hoping the minoxidil caused the acceleration adn in the coming months it will begin to grow back. Maybe I should get my *** on finasteride finally - I'm just freaked-out about sides.
 

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MiddleAgedManiac said:
Maybe I should get my *** on finasteride finally - I'm just freaked-out about sides.

Sides tend to resolve when you stop use, so if you get unacceptable sides, just go back off the drug.

P.S. I'd drop the Saw P. if you go on finasteride.
 

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ropcat said:
MiddleAgedManiac said:
Maybe I should get my *** on finasteride finally - I'm just freaked-out about sides.

Sides tend to resolve when you stop use, so if you get unacceptable sides, just go back off the drug.

P.S. I'd drop the Saw P. if you go on finasteride.

Plus some people seem to shed on Saw.
 

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Petchsky said:
Plus some people seem to shed on Saw.

Petchsky - Interesting point. I've seen that too in the past from users on this site. I wonder why it would cause shedding if it's not really that effective as a regrowth agent?
 

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Not to sure... I know it helps increase libido so maybe something to do with increasing testosterone.
 

MiddleAgedManiac

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I've heard so many things about Saw Palm - both positive and negative. When you say it could cause a shed, does that mean it shocks the system and causes a temporary hairloss, or does that mean it's gone for good? Ive been wondering if taking it has been accelerating my condition.
 

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MiddleAgedManiac said:
It sucks though cause I had such thick hair for so many years. I practically went bald "overnight" -- I'm hoping the minoxidil caused the acceleration adn in the coming months it will begin to grow back. Maybe I should get my *** on finasteride finally - I'm just freaked-out about sides.


With all due respect, you are nuts to take Saw Palmetto and are worried about finasteride. Seriously, Saw Palmetto is just as chemically active a DRUG as finasteride, in fact its more as its effects on the body appear to be much more wide spread.

Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it is safer then a man-made compound. Nature never intended you to take huge mg dosages of one of it's "grown" compounds. Once Saw is gathered and processed, its a DRUG...with real drug effects in your body.

I would probably say Finesteride is safer AT THIS POINT IN TIME then Saw Palmetto due to all the studies etc on Finesteride.
 

MiddleAgedManiac

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Well THAT sucks. I recently switched to Beta-Sistasterol which is supposedly hundreds of times more potent than Saw. :(
So you are suggesting I drop it and get on finasteride? (to be honest
with you, I have ben considering it. I have lost most my hair on
top since beginning Saw Palmetto.
 

juststarting

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MiddleAgedManiac said:
Well THAT sucks. I recently switched to Beta-Sistasterol which is supposedly hundreds of times more potent than Saw. :(
So you are suggesting I drop it and get on finasteride? (to be honest
with you, I have ben considering it. I have lost most my hair on
top since beginning Saw Palmetto.

Not surprising. I may not be correct, but I recall that Saw palmetto research studies were NOT particularly successful.

Get on finasteride. Drop the silly Saw Palmetto. It is not as good as finasteride.

And please, stop taking these "natural" compounds. They are just as risky, if not MORE, as man-made compounds. Remember, man-made compounds have to go through RIGOROUS studies and dosaging studies. Natural ones, manufacturer just makes up random quantities. Seriously, the FDA really needs to clamp down on these "natural" sumplement companies. It's just scary that people are taking these compounds at such high dosages and think it is "safe since its natural". It's laughable at best :(
 

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mate,

drop the saw P and get on the finasteride. i was on saw P for 6 months before starting *real* hairloss treatments. i lost the most hair i ever have in those 6 months. now im on finasteride. its been holding my hair and keeping my aggressive hairloss at bay for 1 year 2 months.

dont be afraid of the sides. i really believe that, like merck says, they occur in less than 2% of men significantly. most users on this forum dont experience sides. and, even those that do, well of course theyre the ones reporting it - people who come on this forum are, by and large, people who are having problems with their treatment.

i had tiny sides - decreased libido - for maybe one week? max two weeks. and im still not even sure if i did, its just a weak observation.

your minoxidil may be regrowing hair, but you could be losing at the same time because your not on finasteride. and if your loss was, like you say, "overnight", then you want to get on a *clinically proven*, tried and tested dht inhibitor to stop your loss. then minoxidil can do its work and you can see the benefits.

i strongly advise you to drop the saw P and get on finasteride.

just remember, if you make the switch, be patient. you have to be prepared to wait 9 months - 1 year once youve started this new treatment. then reevaluate. good luck.
 

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The problem is, on some forums people there say it works and doesn't have the sides, so guys like me who are new to the forums think.. cool! I can get the best of both worlds.

I am taking your advice and dropping the Saw and Beta-sis. Should I wait awhile and let my body clear these products out before I start on finasteride?
 

juststarting

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MiddleAgedManiac said:
The problem is, on some forums people there say it works and doesn't have the sides, so guys like me who are new to the forums think.. cool! I can get the best of both worlds.

I am taking your advice and dropping the Saw and Beta-sis. Should I wait awhile and let my body clear these products out before I start on finasteride?

The best source of information should be reading the research reports. Go to pubmed and search for Saw Palmetto. You can find the actual research studies that show results, then you can judge for yourself :) I doubt these people were really getting efficacy, I firmly believe it is psychosomatic based upon what i have read.

No idea what is the half-life of Saw Palmetto -- perhaps one of the research studies you can find on pubed will tell you? Go see a doctor and get a proper script, and tell him/her what you have been doing...
 
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