tanaka
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Hello,
while searching on the boards I came across a post that struck me as very interesting. It is from way back, 2005. I was looking for an answer why so many people including myself experience damage to the hairline while on dutasteride.
What Mattam the author argues sounds quite logical to me and it offers an explaination to the question why different people react differently to finasteride and dutasteride. It also explains why sometimes people experience no improvement at all but more damage while on meds. What do you think of it, makes sense, huh? If this theory is true, why doesnt anybody know about it now?
this is it...
Hi,
Is it possible that Testosterone (or its other derivatives) causes male pattern baldness, instead of just the DHT (and genetic) that is commonly believed?
Would be good if anyone has seen scientific study backing this up?
Below are my observations/hypotheses:
1) If DHT and genetic alone causes male pattern baldness, then Dutasteride should completely (of say 99%) stop male pattern baldness in its track. From scanning various forums, I have come across a number or people not getting any benefits from being on dutasteride for 1+ year
2) However, we know castrated men or transgendered people have completely stopped hairloss (though not necessary regrowth). In their cases, both DHT, Testosterone, and other derivatives are completely eliminated.
3) Taking 1) and 2) together, it points to the fact that total elimination or close to it a la dutasteride cannot stop male pattern baldness. Only when Testosterone itself is also eliminated that male pattern baldness can be stop.
4) If this hypothesis holds true, it would explains a couple of other things:
4.1 Explains why hairline and temple hairloss is not halted by finasteride/dutasteride. It just means that follicles in those areas shrank as a result of T instead of DHT.
4.2 Explains why certain men don't respond to finasteride -- in some men, they are genetically predisposed lose hair because of T rather than DHT
4.3 Explains why some men report shedding when they initially start finasteride/dutasteride -- this is b/c when T jumped up avg. of some 20% when u start the treatment and it gradually decreases
4.4 It may even explains why finasteride gradually loses it effectiveness after years of use. Essentially receptors on follicles start binding to T causing hairloss despite the fact that DHT is continually suppressed....
Any thoughts....??
If this is true...it's quite a dooms-day scenario...as the only way to stop your hairloss (for some men) is to cut-off the balls!!!!
...not good for me since finasteride stopped working for me and no results whatsoever being dutasteride for 1 month...
while searching on the boards I came across a post that struck me as very interesting. It is from way back, 2005. I was looking for an answer why so many people including myself experience damage to the hairline while on dutasteride.
What Mattam the author argues sounds quite logical to me and it offers an explaination to the question why different people react differently to finasteride and dutasteride. It also explains why sometimes people experience no improvement at all but more damage while on meds. What do you think of it, makes sense, huh? If this theory is true, why doesnt anybody know about it now?
this is it...
Hi,
Is it possible that Testosterone (or its other derivatives) causes male pattern baldness, instead of just the DHT (and genetic) that is commonly believed?
Would be good if anyone has seen scientific study backing this up?
Below are my observations/hypotheses:
1) If DHT and genetic alone causes male pattern baldness, then Dutasteride should completely (of say 99%) stop male pattern baldness in its track. From scanning various forums, I have come across a number or people not getting any benefits from being on dutasteride for 1+ year
2) However, we know castrated men or transgendered people have completely stopped hairloss (though not necessary regrowth). In their cases, both DHT, Testosterone, and other derivatives are completely eliminated.
3) Taking 1) and 2) together, it points to the fact that total elimination or close to it a la dutasteride cannot stop male pattern baldness. Only when Testosterone itself is also eliminated that male pattern baldness can be stop.
4) If this hypothesis holds true, it would explains a couple of other things:
4.1 Explains why hairline and temple hairloss is not halted by finasteride/dutasteride. It just means that follicles in those areas shrank as a result of T instead of DHT.
4.2 Explains why certain men don't respond to finasteride -- in some men, they are genetically predisposed lose hair because of T rather than DHT
4.3 Explains why some men report shedding when they initially start finasteride/dutasteride -- this is b/c when T jumped up avg. of some 20% when u start the treatment and it gradually decreases
4.4 It may even explains why finasteride gradually loses it effectiveness after years of use. Essentially receptors on follicles start binding to T causing hairloss despite the fact that DHT is continually suppressed....
Any thoughts....??
If this is true...it's quite a dooms-day scenario...as the only way to stop your hairloss (for some men) is to cut-off the balls!!!!
...not good for me since finasteride stopped working for me and no results whatsoever being dutasteride for 1 month...