I am Nw2-nw2.5, 25years old and completely stable during the last 3.5 years with regaine. The doctor offered me to be conservative and lower the hairline about 1cm (which will bring me to nw1.5 I guess). He showed me some excellent results from other guys with the same problem. The surgery will be STRIP, about 900 FU. My density is about 350 hair/cm2 and he will put in the temples 40-50FU. The cost will be 4000 Euros. What do you think guys?
Here's what the surgeon told me... ***PICS***
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LookingGood!
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I totally agree with the previous 2 posters on this. A strip for 900 grafts is ridiculous! It's way too small a number to have such an invasive procedure. You are very young too. What if your male pattern baldness advances past the grafts? You have to look at the big picture.
MOst reputable docs wouldnt do a strip on a 25 y/o for 900 grafts/FUs
Do more research. hair transplant are not reversible.
Good luck!
MOst reputable docs wouldnt do a strip on a 25 y/o for 900 grafts/FUs
Do more research. hair transplant are not reversible.
Good luck!
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Thats why he will not lower down the hairline, just in case I lose more hair. He said he opposes Alvi's aggressive point of view. He also said that with strip it will easier to gain a "natural looking" hairline. What I didnt like is that it's about 4000E/900FU=4.5 E/FU or about 6$/FU which is quite expensive. I will meet him again in Monday. What do you suggest me to tell him?
PS: He told me that I do not need more hair and when I asked him for a major procedure he replied negatively and he said that " If I wanted more money, I would have told you but I think that with this procedure you will be ok and we shall not go further".
What do you think I should ask him in Monday guys? Dont forget that regaine has completely halted my hair loss for 3.5 years. This is a FACT. I will post some pics of famous Greek guys who had a similar procedure with this doctor and you will tell me your comments right below. PLEASE PARTICIPATE
Thats why he will not lower down the hairline, just in case I lose more hair. He said he opposes Alvi's aggressive point of view. He also said that with strip it will easier to gain a "natural looking" hairline. What I didnt like is that it's about 4000E/900FU=4.5 E/FU or about 6$/FU which is quite expensive. I will meet him again in Monday. What do you suggest me to tell him?
PS: He told me that I do not need more hair and when I asked him for a major procedure he replied negatively and he said that " If I wanted more money, I would have told you but I think that with this procedure you will be ok and we shall not go further".
What do you think I should ask him in Monday guys? Dont forget that regaine has completely halted my hair loss for 3.5 years. This is a FACT. I will post some pics of famous Greek guys who had a similar procedure with this doctor and you will tell me your comments right below. PLEASE PARTICIPATE
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If he's just going to stay on minoxidil a hair transplant would be very risky.
But if he goes on finasteride and later dutasteride and cracks out an anti-androgen if need be, he will probably keep his hair, in my opinion. Since no one really knows, no reason not to go for it. Although 900 follicular units sounds like a really small amount of grafts, especially for a strip. To me it sounds like your surgeon isn't skilled enough to do anything which will require some artistry and instead will do that.
But if he goes on finasteride and later dutasteride and cracks out an anti-androgen if need be, he will probably keep his hair, in my opinion. Since no one really knows, no reason not to go for it. Although 900 follicular units sounds like a really small amount of grafts, especially for a strip. To me it sounds like your surgeon isn't skilled enough to do anything which will require some artistry and instead will do that.
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Pic 4 the guy's hairline still looks thin.
A couple there the hair looks really good, even if it is combed forward (making it harder to tell the quality of the work.)
Is that all he has for before/after pics? Does he have a website? I'd like to see some pics without all the glitz and glamour look and just a simple head on before and after pic showing the hairline.
A couple there the hair looks really good, even if it is combed forward (making it harder to tell the quality of the work.)
Is that all he has for before/after pics? Does he have a website? I'd like to see some pics without all the glitz and glamour look and just a simple head on before and after pic showing the hairline.
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Oh come on now! I think he looks great (and he was worse than I am now).
I am telling you guys, the dude is not f*****g around. He showed me pics of people I never thought they had done hair transplant before. I left his office very happy and ready to make an appointment, but you discourage me... He said that if I was 50 he would make me nw1, but at this age (25) he prefers the "slighlty bald" look just in case it gets worse.
When he understood that I was really frustrated with hair loss, he said that I shouldn't because there are people having diseases etc. I found him really sensible guys and down-to-earth, but I am confused with your opinions...
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Well I checked out the before/after pics. Honestly I can't say I'm too impressed, but a lot of the work was done on patients who had lost a lot of hair, in which case the doctor is limited in what he can do.
If you have a good feeling about the doctor and think his work is good by all means go for it man. Personally I think a FUE would be the way to go for 900 grafts, but if cost is a factor do the FUSS, it's not like it's a big deal if you get a FUSS done, just riskier. But people are getting them done all the time, on much longer/wider strips, so it'll probably be the safest kind of FUSS strip that's done.
Finally, I say if you want a nw1, do it. Just make sure you be serious about keeping the hair you have, which has to include an internal 5ar inhibitor. I would recommend including dutasteride in any regimen.
Good luck!
If you have a good feeling about the doctor and think his work is good by all means go for it man. Personally I think a FUE would be the way to go for 900 grafts, but if cost is a factor do the FUSS, it's not like it's a big deal if you get a FUSS done, just riskier. But people are getting them done all the time, on much longer/wider strips, so it'll probably be the safest kind of FUSS strip that's done.
Finally, I say if you want a nw1, do it. Just make sure you be serious about keeping the hair you have, which has to include an internal 5ar inhibitor. I would recommend including dutasteride in any regimen.
Good luck!
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Topical SOD or an SOD mimetic is a good idea. I don't know much about this whole hair loss thing, so I don't like giving a lot of advice. An androgen blocker is another good idea, unfortunately they are all a pain in the butt in my opinion, except for ketoconazole shampoo. (ie./ nizoral). Unfortunately using it every day makes mine (and a lot of others) hair go dry but 2 or 3 times a week should be no problem for you, and it's better than nothing.
But if I was you, and you decided to go for a nw1, then being thorough in preventing hair loss is something I would do, and that would include an androgen blocker. eg./ spironolactone, RU, fluridil. Topicals are a pain but it's better than losing your hair.
But if I was you, and you decided to go for a nw1, then being thorough in preventing hair loss is something I would do, and that would include an androgen blocker. eg./ spironolactone, RU, fluridil. Topicals are a pain but it's better than losing your hair.
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Follically Challenged said:
So you would advocate a strip for such a small procedure? That's alot of scarring for a few amount of grafts. Since he is young and his male pattern baldness might/will progress, he will need more procedure...hence more strips? I would wait for a strip procedure. I might consider the 900 as FUE which is so minimally invasive.
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thylax said:Look at him also:
case3,after:
case3, before:
Case 3 is pretty impressive but he was nw3 and so he put more grafts.
What do you think?
dONT GET SOLD ON PICTURES ON A WEBSITE! Go see patients in person and look at the hair transplant. Pictures are not the same in person!!!
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LookingGood, it wouldn't be my first choice, but I don't see why another strip couldn't be done. My strip scar is about 1 mm in height, and will be barely noticable when the redness of the scarring goes away. If I ever needed another strip I don't see why the doctor couldn't just do another one from there, like CCS has had done twice. Or take a strip from higher up.
hair density is so hard to judge. I keep looking at my friends hair. Maybe his hair is not thinning, but at 3 inches I can see 6 square inches of scalp in his crown, but the sides are just as thin when the wind blows. So when I look at graft spacing, it is hard to say if they are too far apart or not.