Hairclone... Not The Follicle But The Cells Anyway.

[H]

i don't see how people can get excited for this company.
their cryopreservation is irrelevant for a cure and the fact that Kemp and Higgings are on board doesn't mean anything.

they are basically starting from scratch with many upcoming and still unsolved problems with all the culturing and assembly of neopapilla. they are faaar behind tsuji.

right now, this company doesn't make any sense to me. just the usual hype as always.

tsuji, follica and replicel are the only reasonable companies to follow. if these don't bring something to market within the next 3 to 5 years, it's over anyways. because this would mean there are still huge unsolveable roadblocks in the way, and the cure will take many more additional years.

I'm excited for them because another company is making it their problem to fix our problem or should we tell every new startup "hey you guys should just pack up maybe start on a different disease we got our company's. We only buy follica, replicel, and Riken round here." NONE of these company's are immune to failure. Tsuji might not solve the culturing issues he might not by 2019 there's no guarantee I like Riken and all but they are not infallible there could be problems even they cannot solve in that time frame. Replicel may be the best maintenance therapy we have coming but we have no idea when they'll bring that out and so far it's not going to reverse your nw7 if you have one. Follica we have a pretty website and pictures of boxes that's all maybe a couple diagrams showing what they think it'll do but replicel had a man completely regrow his nw7 in their video and now...well sh*t changes. It amazes me how people can b**ch about company's coming into this field and how "they won't make it in the timeframe I feel the other company's will so I dont want them." Do you really want to waste all your hopes on 3 company's if they don't solve them somebody got to even if it takes longer even if they have more problems to get through at first somebody's got to do it or we are screwed. I cant believe so many people are sour about Hairclone and Tissuse and we have Brotzu still circulating this site.

 

[That Guy]

I'm excited for them because another company is making it their problem to fix our problem or should we tell every new startup "hey you guys should just pack up maybe start on a different disease we got our company's. We only buy follica, replicel, and Riken round here." NONE of these company's are immune to failure. Tsuji might not solve the culturing issues he might not by 2019 there's no guarantee I like Riken and all but they are not infallible there could be problems even they cannot solve in that time frame. Replicel may be the best maintenance therapy we have coming but we have no idea when they'll bring that out and so far it's not going to reverse your nw7 if you have one. Follica we have a pretty website and pictures of boxes that's all maybe a couple diagrams showing what they think it'll do but replicel had a man completely regrow his nw7 in their video and now...well sh*t changes. It amazes me how people can b**ch about company's coming into this field and how "they won't make it in the timeframe I feel the other company's will so I dont want them." Do you really want to waste all your hopes on 3 company's if they don't solve them somebody got to even if it takes longer even if they have more problems to get through at first somebody's got to do it or we are screwed. I cant believe so many people are sour about Hairclone and Tissuse and we have Brotzu still circulating this site.

I'd flip that around, personally.

Do you really want to waste your hopes on new players in the game when those new players have nothing to show but promises?

The 3 you mention have easily the best science and funding in the business and 2/3 are on track for a market release. Most stuff fails in Phase II but they're putting Follica through for FDA approval and you of course know about Shiseido. There is simply nothing else in the pipeline that is more likely to succeed, judging by the current status of things.

I'm less involved with it in recent years, but I used to do a lot of contract work in the video game/software industries since I was a teenager. Over the years, I've lost count of how many new start ups, individual developers etc. I've met who told me of all their grand plans: How their game was going to be released on every major platform, have voice acting...the works. 9/10 of these guys failed; I'd see them at industry trade shows and they had either an abysmal demo of their product or (far more often) nothing at all.

The same is true of all startups — the ones talking a big game, but without the funds and proven track record to back it up, are almost always the ones who go nowhere.

 

[H]

I'd flip that around, personally.

Do you really want to waste your hopes on new players in the game when those new players have nothing to show but promises?

The 3 you mention have easily the best science and funding in the business and 2/3 are on track for a market release. Most stuff fails in Phase II but they're putting Follica through for FDA approval and you of course know about Shiseido. There is simply nothing else in the pipeline that is more likely to succeed, judging by the current status of things.

I'm less involved with it in recent years, but I used to do a lot of contract work in the video game/software industries since I was a teenager. Over the years, I've lost count of how many new start ups, individual developers etc. I've met who told me of all their grand plans: How their game was going to be released on every major platform, have voice acting...the works. 9/10 of these guys failed; I'd see them at industry trade shows and they had either an abysmal demo of their product or (far more often) nothing at all.

The same is true of all startups — the ones talking a big game, but without the funds and proven track record to back it up, are almost always the ones who go nowhere.

Whether I hope for any company or not isn't going to help them commercialize a therapy its going to happen how it happens. Hairclone may indeed fail like I said none of these company's are infallible but I see a lot of people bitching about how society doesn't care enough about hair loss and not enough scientist even are trying to figure this out but then when a company just starts getting into it they call it sh*t just because it doesn't meet their standards. If Tsuji and follica fail to succeed in giving us enough new hair for a full head are we going to call it quits shut down this site nothing to see here its over for us diffuse and advanced stage male pattern baldness patients? If these companys do succed dont we want some competitition to at least be possible? I'm just glad to see these small company's startups giving hair loss some attention even if most are doomed to fail at least they are trying.

 

[That Guy]

Whether I hope for any company or not isn't going to help them commercialize a therapy its going to happen how it happens.

and that is exactly my point, so I'm just saying: Isn't it still better to put faith in whomever is "happening" rather than those who are just in the planning stages or might have some good ideas?

I don't disagree with your point that more players in the game is a good thing.

 

[H]

and that is exactly my point, so I'm just saying: Isn't it still better to put faith in whomever is "happening" rather than those who are just in the planning stages or might have some good ideas?

I don't disagree with your point that more players in the game is a good thing.

Oh okay that's all I wanted lol I mean I definitely hope Follica and Tsuji succeed for sure I just hate when some of these people act like it's stupid of these other companies to get involved because of timelines and resources that at least are giving hair loss more attention.

 

[thomps1523]

I just don't approve of sponges like thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy not contributing to the trip to the Hair Loss Congress. These mooches want to ride the backs of the contributors. Thomps1523 actually tried to publicly shame Admin for only donating $150 even though Thomps1523 hasn't chipped in one cent.

Anyone who chips in is a mule who let's sponges llike thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy ride his back.

It has been confirmed that the information will be posted for everyone even if people don't chip in so anyone who chips in is a fool. If you chip in then you're paying so mooches like thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy can ride your back.

Did we just become best friends?