Hairclone... Not The Follicle But The Cells Anyway.

[H]

Since I've heard about the company startup it seems they have been progressing relatively quickly and I bet there will be an update from their trip to the Venice Congress soon. The fact that Paul Kemp is using himself for research is pretty admirable. I haven't seen that out of any of the other companies I've come across in my time losing hair. What are your thoughts?

 

[MrV88]

Since I've heard about the company startup it seems they have been progressing relatively quickly and I bet there will be an update from their trip to the Venice Congress soon. The fact that Paul Kemp is using himself for research is pretty admirable. I haven't seen that out of any of the other companies I've come across in my time losing hair. What are your thoughts?

Do you have more information? Are these the guys who want to clone in UK and do the rest in the USA?

 

[Royaume]

It's quite interesting because Clare Higgings is working as a scientifc advisor. She is one of the world's most famous hair loss researcher.
She is also listed as speaker for Shiseido at the World Hair Congress in Japan. I think they have a similar technology which means that the outcome is maybe comparable to shiseidos work which means that we can go to UK instead of Japan

There is a lot of research going on but I think that many companies do actually the same:

Shiseido/Replicel (speaker at world congress: Clare Higgins) , HairClone (Clare Higgins), Rapunzel (Dr.Christiano and Jahoda)...

The more, the better 2018 will be a wonderful year. SHiseido, Fidia, maybe Follica, TRIPLE POWER

 

[H]

Do you have more information? Are these the guys who want to clone in UK and do the rest in the USA?

I believe they want to do most of it in the UK so it moves along faster.

 

[nameless]

It's quite interesting because Clare Higgings is working as a scientifc advisor. She is one of the world's most famous hair loss researcher.
She is also listed as speaker for Shiseido at the World Hair Congress in Japan. I think they have a similar technology which means that the outcome is maybe comparable to shiseidos work which means that we can go to UK instead of Japan

There is a lot of research going on but I think that many companies do actually the same:

Shiseido/Replicel (speaker at world congress: Clare Higgins) , HairClone (Clare Higgins), Rapunzel (Dr.Christiano and Jahoda)...

The more, the better 2018 will be a wonderful year. SHiseido, Fidia, maybe Follica, TRIPLE POWER

You're doing a lot of assuming and that's a mistake because when you do assuming you make an *** of you and some guy named "ming".

Sheisieo and HairClone are not the same. It's common for scientists to serve as advisers to more than one company. You're reading too much into it that she's connected to both companies.

 

[nameless]

I believe they want to do most of it in the UK so it moves along faster.

HairClone is in the UK because the UK has a good system for allowing the use of experimental treatments to treat medical conditions when there isn't a cure available that works on the patient.

 

[thomps1523]

HairClone is in UK because UK has a good system for allowing experimental treatments to be used in cases of promising medical treatments where there isn't a known cure.

By comparison what are laws in the U.K. By comparison to what they would deal with in the US? Is it similar to Japan, and the new cures act the US adopted?

 

[nameless]

By comparison what are laws in the U.K. By comparison to what they would deal with in the US? Is it similar to Japan, and the new cures act the US adopted?

By comparison to Admin you're a mooch who tried to shame Admin into donating more money to the Hair Loss Congress trip even though he had already donated $150 and you donated ZERO.

 

[thomps1523]

By comparison to Admin you're a mooch/sponge who tried to shame Admin into donating more money to the Hair Loss Congress trip even though he had already donated $150 and you had donated ZERO.

Two questions... 1. What could you have possibly needed to edit in that post? 2. Why are you such a vaginal crevice? I'd say you and my little girl should hang out, but I'm afraid she'll hurt your feelings somehow man!

 

[Royaume]

I really don't know what this guy's problem is xD Normally I would attack him and teach him another lesson that he will not forget during the next weeks but this time I really feel that you have some serious mental problems...

 

[nameless]

Two questions... 1. What could you have possibly needed to edit in that post? 2. Why are you such a vaginal crevice? I'd say you and my little girl should hang out, but I'm afraid she'll hurt your feelings somehow man!

Two questions... 1. Is your daughter a mooch? 2. Does your daughter know that her father is a mooch?

 

[thomps1523]

Two questions... 1. Is your daughter a mooch? 2. Does your daughter know that her father is a mooch?

1.Yes! 2. Yes!

 

[nameless]

I really don't know what this guy's problem is xD Normally I would attack him and teach him another lesson that he will not forget during the next weeks but this time I really feel that you have some serious mental problems...

I just don't approve of sponges like thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy not contributing to the trip to the Hair Loss Congress. These mooches want to ride the backs of the contributors. Thomps1523 actually tried to publicly shame Admin for only donating $150 even though Thomps1523 hasn't chipped in one cent.

Anyone who chips in is a mule who let's sponges llike thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy ride his back.

It has been confirmed that the information will be posted for everyone even if people don't chip in so anyone who chips in is a fool. If you chip in then you're paying so mooches like thomps1523, notcoolanymore, and that_guy can ride your back.

 

[hanginginthewire]

so anyone who chips in is a fool.

Hmmmm.

I cannot believe how infantile you are being about this. While 200.00 or whatever you donated can be a significant amount of money for some of us, it isn't 10 grand man. Your petulance is embarrassing. If you insist on obsessing or this triviality can you keep it to like two or three threads instead of a dozen?

 

[H]

Here's what they've been up to.

• Our mailing list of people contacting us is now well over 200 and growing at one or 2 a day.
• We have a new “donation” web page that came from your suggestion and would link people to PayPal ready to go and will make it “live” in the next week or so
• We are continuing to implant micro dissected, non expanded follicle cells in a number of configurations and are learning a huge amount about implant technique and location which just confirms to us that this “medical innovation" route is the way to go. I am one of the volunteers for this and have several test spots now!
• We are about to sign the contract with an established and licensed cell bank who will partner with us in long term storage of the cryopreserved hair follicles
• The meeting in Venice went really well. Bessam presented and has been asked to write it up for the ISHRS journal. I also got chance to meet most of our clinical partners in person for the first time which was really good to see how enthusiastic they are to support us
• We are about to start “test runs” to confirm the logistics look at shipping follicles internationally and then cryopreserving them. This is to ensure that any delays due to airline security/customs etc are within our timelines
• We are creating a 5 min video that would be used as part of our equity crowdfunding campaign that we are still working on. All the clinical partners are up for helping us with this and we will be able to use it in a variety of ways to extend our “reach”
• We are doing the preliminary experiments that we need to do in order to do some very specific “transcriptomics” using RNA-seq (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcriptome). This is critical work that will bridge the cell expansion studies with the clinical trial work.

I think they are moving along quite profeciently...

 

[H]

By comparison to Admin you're a mooch who tried to shame Admin into donating more money to the Hair Loss Congress trip even though he had already donated $150 and you donated ZERO.

Since you did start this I'm going to ask if you could please, I said please you saw it right back there<, please hold out on the whole donation argument for this thread you guys already torched your own thread talking about it its over and done with. Sometimes life kicks you in the dick and hair follicle not everythings fair but we are past that onto Hairclone.

 

[nameless]

Hmmmm.

I cannot believe how infantile you are being about this. While 200.00 or whatever you donated can be a significant amount of money for some of us, it isn't 10 grand man. Your petulance is embarrassing. If you insist on obsessing or this triviality can you keep it to like two or three threads instead of a dozen?

thomps1523 posted something to me. By posting to me thomps1523 made it clear that he mistakenly thinks I can tolerate him and that I respect him. I wanted him to know where he stands with me. Now that I've made my point I'll let the issue go so long as he doesn't annoy me further.

 

[H]

and these guys aren't a joke

I can't tell if your being sarcastic with me?

 

[H]

No I was not being sarcastic. They have a respectable experienced team.

(..upon re-reading my comment I can see how it may be misinterpreted. especially given the general negativity that is always rampant on a mens hairloss forum.)

Lol ya I couldn't decipher. I like this team alot it seems like these guys have something new going on all the time like they are never just idle. How many companies are we just waiting for no updates for months just saying the same old stuff or nothing at all? Paul Kemp has been very active in reaching out to potential customers and donaters obviously, but in a more personal manner I would think then any of the other companies I've heard of not that I'm ragging on them just observing.

 

[That Guy]

i don't see how people can get excited for this company.
their cryopreservation is irrelevant for a cure and the fact that Kemp and Higgings are on board doesn't mean anything.

they are basically starting from scratch with many upcoming and still unsolved problems with all the culturing and assembly of neopapilla. they are faaar behind tsuji.

right now, this company doesn't make any sense to me. just the usual hype as always.

tsuji, follica and replicel are the only reasonable companies to follow. if these don't bring something to market within the next 3 to 5 years, it's over anyways. because this would mean there are still huge unsolveable roadblocks in the way, and the cure will take many more additional years.

HairClone is essentially Paul Kemp's kickstarter attempt at making the history books.

Instead of relying on investor funds after showing that you have something worth investing in, you rely on the desperation of the potential consumer base to fund the research with no guarantees or promises of anything in return.

If it's successful, he and his company go down in history as "revolutionizing" the approach in bringing biotech products to market; if it fails, it's no skin off his *** and he loses next to nothing out of pocket — they can drop everything and leave.

As it stands, they have nothing. Just months ago, Paul Kemp said that the team doesn't even know what culturing method they will use. So they don't even know what roadblocks they might face.

Yet, they are already banking people's follicles and plan to start a trial this year!

Sure.