hair development pattern in babies

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has this been taken into consideration? does this phenomenon perhaps hold some crucial information and clues?

babies develop hair in a pattern that makes them look like bald dudes in their very early stages. it's like the area of the scalp later at potential to be subject to hairloss produces hair after the balding-proof area.

just a thought that came to mind
 

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has this been taken into consideration? does this phenomenon perhaps hold some crucial information and clues?

babies develop hair in a pattern that makes them look like bald dudes in their very early stages. it's like the area of the scalp later at potential to be subject to hairloss produces hair after the balding-proof area.

just a thought that came to mind

I've pointed this out as well in regards to replicel. They got some 'disappointing' results but nobody really took into consideration some factors. I posted this following question on Bald Truth Talk:

I've got a question about Replicel! This one is particularly an interesting one.

Since Replicel's initial results were disappointing for the forum members here, has anyone thought more about WHY there wasn't more hair beyond the regular gum flapping responses like 'it doesnt work! waah!'

Consider this; when a baby is born, hair on it is very thin. Its only had 9 months in the womb to develop and even in the coming months after birth the baby still does not show dense hair. I would say a human's head is most full with hair during the ages of 8-14 and then things go south, at least for men since women are lucky.

So!

Replicel took a bunch of DSC cells, multiplied them and injected them back into the scalp underneath the skin. After 6 months we saw 15% more terminal hair. But did anyone take into account that perhaps during that 6 month time frame the DSC cells may have needed time to form into a complete hair follicle?

Basically, the question is; are we really expecting those DSC cells to tranform into follicles overnight? Over weeks? Or months? And even then, can we not take into account anagen, catagen and telegen cycles before it reaches its FULL potential?

Consider this, that standard FUE/FUT and even HST transplants require a minimum of 6 months before results are seen and even then things can take longer to develop.

Are we not jumping the gun a little?

Shiseido did just dump millions of dollars on Replicel. A lot of people are saying '...replicel doesn't work unless Shiseido knows something we don't'. Obviously, they do know something we don't, but is it what we're hoping for? Perhaps the extra time was enough to make a convincing case for Shiseido and the results we're better than the 6 month mark we were shown?

Lets even assume that those results are the best they could achieve. We're still however leaving out the possibility of using Replicel in combination of Finasteride to inhibit DHT and Minoxidil as a growth stimulant. Perhaps wounding + minoxidil would cause a chain reaction of results given that when minoxidil was applied, PGE2 levels were raised which could turn those DSC cells into complete follicles and possibly from raised levels of FGF9? And this isn't even taking into consideration Histogen's own growth factors!

So... thoughts? I have a feeling Desmond could chime in on this.
 

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You raise a very valid point here, and tbh, you are completely right about that & I don't know why Androgenetic Alopecia happens in the same pattern, just in reverse.

I don't understand though why the thread was moved out of the "studies" subforum, as this topic really cries for some studies.
 

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P.S. Hellrouser, what is the specific reason you warn against going above 100 mg in your post on another site?
I know 100 is what most usually cap out around, however is there some specific reason you are adamant on that cut off?

I just have a feeling that it can go badly systemic. For example, just a little over a week ago after about a 3 month hiatus without RU, I made a 100mg dose in 1ml and applied it all over the scalp after exfoliting, showering and gently dermarolling. Days later I noticed increased morning erections (weird, huh?) but also noticed as if my testicles we're being gently squeezed. On one occasion at work they were even twitching rapidly for about 30 or so seconds.

I can't say with certainty that my testicle problem is 100% guaranteed to be at the hands of RU, but it is funny how the chain of events happened after the dose. My libido is still OK, erections are strong as well except I don't get spontaneous erections anymore (or very rarely). I'm very much against Finasteride, although since I respond well to drugs of any kind, I have a feeling Finasteride may work well for me... I at least hope it'd give me regrowth like Zeroheat.
 
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