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I just went to my local drugstore to buy some saw palmetto, and they had Green Tea extract capsules. I keep reading on different posts that green tea is good for people with hairloss problems, but I cant stand the taste. Does anyone know if these capsules would help just the same?
 

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chaotic646 said:
I just went to my local drugstore to buy some saw palmetto, and they had Green Tea extract capsules. I keep reading on different posts that green tea is good for people with hairloss problems, but I cant stand the taste. Does anyone know if these capsules would help just the same?
They should, could be better. :)
 

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20sometingtoo said:
Dont expect to grow hair using green tea. Its merely assumed to be good for general health.


how does green tea effect your life ??

dramatically or just severe effects ?
 

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Wezz said:
20sometingtoo said:
Dont expect to grow hair using green tea. Its merely assumed to be good for general health.


how does green tea effect your life ??

dramatically or just severe effects ?

Its like drinking tea once a day, not gonna do much to you. Supposedly its a good anti-oxidant - thats about it though.
 

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Wezz said:
20sometingtoo said:
Dont expect to grow hair using green tea. Its merely assumed to be good for general health.


how does green tea effect your life ??

dramatically or just severe effects ?
Wezz, you'll end up looking like your avatar if you drink too much greet tea. That would be severe and dramatic........LOL!! :lol:
 

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i think its supposed to block something that produces 5-alpha reductase-which is responsible for producing dht--but i woulnt have much faith in it, just use it as a supplement to your regimen (which should include proven treatments)
 

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Shinyscalp23 said:
i think its supposed to block something that produces 5-alpha reductase-which is responsible for producing dht--but i woulnt have much faith in it, just use it as a supplement to your regimen (which should include proven treatments)
I believe I read somewhere that it inhibits 5 alpha reductase type 1, but that doesn't mean much since 5 alpha reductase type 2 is the most predominant in the dermal papillae. Might be useful for other things though. Its supposed to inhibit TNF-a. Thats good to know. :)
 

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Dice_Has_Hair said:
I believe I read somewhere that it inhibits 5 alpha reductase type 1, but that doesn't mean much since 5 alpha reductase type 2 is the most predominant in the dermal papillae.

Actually, EGCG (the main polyphenol in green tea) inhibits both type 1 and type 2; it's just more potent against type 1. However, drinking green tea almost certainly has no significant effect on DHT levels, probably because EGCG is very poorly absorbed from the GI tract. It may possibly work in a topical application, though. That's an issue for which there seems to be some conflicting information.

Bryan
 

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Bryan said:
Dice_Has_Hair said:
I believe I read somewhere that it inhibits 5 alpha reductase type 1, but that doesn't mean much since 5 alpha reductase type 2 is the most predominant in the dermal papillae.

Actually, EGCG (the main polyphenol in green tea) inhibits both type 1 and type 2; it's just more potent against type 1. However, drinking green tea almost certainly has no significant effect on DHT levels, probably because EGCG is very poorly absorbed from the GI tract. It may possibly work in a topical application, though. That's an issue for which there seems to be some conflicting information.

Bryan
Do you think that using it as a topical is worth a shot? :?
 

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Oh, I suppose it's worth a shot, since it's pretty cheap; even if it doesn't work at all for hairloss, you wouldn't be out very much money after experimenting with it.

There's a fairly recent study with the standard hamster flank organ model, showing a significant antiandrogenic type of effect from topical EGCG; and what's even more interesting is that they also found an ASTONISHING 97% inhibition (!) of the DHT-stimulated growth of their flank organs! EGCG must therefore also have some other activity besides merely inhibiting 5a-reductase, although what that activity might be remains to be elucidated.

There was also a small test of topical EGCG in a human subject as part of a separate patent application, done by those same researchers. They found a reduction in sebum production when a solution was applied to his forehead. It occurred only at the site of application, demonstrating a purely local effect.

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Arhhh I remember the days I used to dab lipoxidil's green tea concoction on my scalp, together with Waseda's mightily hyped and once much discussed DIY regimen, waiting for minor miracles.

I was promised the world! :-x

The good old days, hey? :wink:
 

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Red Rose said:
Arhhh I remember the days I used to dab lipoxidil's green tea concoction on my scalp, together with Waseda's mightily hyped and once much discussed DIY regimen, waiting for minor miracles.

I was promised the world! :-x

The good old days, hey? :wink:
How long did you do this and exactly what concoction of Waseda's did you apply? :?
 

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Zinc oxide, Red wine with GSE, morehairin, bayberry extract etc etc.

Its all well documented and probably on hairsite still from 2001.
 

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Red Rose said:
Zinc oxide, Red wine with GSE, morehairin, bayberry extract etc etc.

Its all well documented and probably on hairsite still from 2001.
Have you ever given his "Amashiso" a try? Where in the hell is one going to get Amacha at? Online somewhere? :?
 

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Dice_Has_Hair said:
Have you ever given his "Amashiso" a try? Where in the hell is one going to get Amacha at? Online somewhere? :?

I haven't used it in a while. Quite a few posters however who have used it recently admitted that it halted their hairloss and stopped shedding in its tracks:-

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... SGDBTABLE=

It could be a great (inexpensive) adjunct to a regimen actually.

Dice_Has_Hair said:
Where in the hell is one going to get Amacha at? Online somewhere? :?

http://www.ancientway.com/Pages/HairHerbs.html
 

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Red Rose said:
Dice_Has_Hair":f6265] Have you ever given his "Amashiso" a try? Where in the hell is one going to get Amacha at? Online somewhere? :?[/quote] I haven't used it in a while. Quite a few posters however who have used it recently admitted that it halted their hairloss and stopped shedding in its tracks:- [url="http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=43847&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE= said:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... SGDBTABLE=[/url]

It could be a great (inexpensive) adjunct to a regimen actually.

Dice_Has_Hair said:
Where in the hell is one going to get Amacha at? Online somewhere? :?

http://www.ancientway.com/Pages/HairHerbs.html[/quote:f6265]Well, if quite a few posters have said these things, why aren't more people using it? What.?........lack of study? Too much tunnel vision towards the BIG 3? :?
 

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Well treatments go in and out of fashion.

People are not willing to hedge their bets either on something that does not have FDA backing. A lot of posters are not surprisingly suspicious of a product that has only some anecdotal support, albeit generally positive support.

Furthermore, it is not going to grow hair per se. It has been discussed before that it might help reduce shedding.

Of course, not everyone can tolerate using finasteride/minoxidil so it may be worth considering as an adjunct to a natural regimen.
 

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Red Rose said:
Well treatments go in and out of fashion.

People are not willing to hedge their bets either on something that does not have FDA backing. A lot of posters are not surprisingly suspicious of a product that has only some anecdotal support, albeit generally positive support.

Furthermore, it is not going to grow hair per se. It has been discussed before that it might help reduce shedding.

Of course, not everyone can tolerate using finasteride/minoxidil so it may be worth considering as an adjunct to a natural regimen.
Well Red Rose, this is the way I see it. Lets say its a f*****g blizzard outside. And..........you decide to shovel the sidewalk(......... :roll: :p ......). Now, if it is still snowing like hell out there and you are doing this, are ya gonna get a lot accomplished? Hell no............nothing accomplished. Your idea in the first place was to shovel the side walk so maybe................it would be safer to walk on. But that ain't happening.
Same thing with hairloss. Stopping it from falling out is the most important thing. Then one can look into the direction of growing it. If your trying to grow something that is trying to shrink and fallout just as fast or faster......................its pretty damn temporary. Its a battle that can't be won..................like the example above.
I mean, thats the way I look at it. I think I'll add some of his concoctions to my regimen. Wouldn't hurt I wouldn't think. :)
 
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