Got side effects from finasteride., My blood testing, please help.

[rsmith]

Quiting finasteride one week and got the testing, hospital just test blood in six items only, do they denote someting? any comments are welcome, thanks a lot!

LH 3.64 mIU/ml (ref:1.14 - 8.75)
FSH 2.68 mIU/ml(ref:1.37-13.58)
E2 36.00 pg/ml (ref:11 - 44)
PRL 8.64 ng/ml (ref: 2.58 - 18.12)
PRGE 0.22 ng/ml (ref: <0.1-0.2)
Total T 8.11 ng/ml (ref: 1.66 - 8.11)

Side effects:
Muscle wasting & weight loss (10kg)
Persistent chronic fatigue
Loss of Libido.

Thank you for your help in advanced.

Sorry for my English.

 

[Ende]

Your total testosterone level is high. You should check the bioavailable testosterone level as well. What did the doctor say? Muscle loss and chronic fatigue may be caused by something else. I would check adrenal hormones and thyroid hormones.

Do you still have morning erections? Have you noticed any changes in erection strength? Increased refraction period? Your estrogen level is within range, but it's high. The sexual side effects from Propecia are caused by increased estrogen level, and if this is the case, you need to use an aromatase inhibitor to correct the hormone ratios, if it doesn't solve itself within 2 - 3 weeks - or else you risk developing secondary hypogonadism.

 

[Timi]

Persistent chronic fatigue

can be minoxidil

 

[Rawtashk]

I find it hard to believe that you'd have noticeable muscle wasting in merely a week. If you did, then I have my doubts that it had anything to do with finasteride.

 

[rsmith]

Thank All for your great comments, I start the finasteride at July/2010 and quiting at 18th of June/2011 because I got a crash(loss libido and fell very tired) that day. The 10kg weigh loss is by about three monthes(Apr, May and June). I am very scared after read the PropeciaHelp. I got the blood testing at 2011/6/25.

Your total testosterone level is high. You should check the bioavailable level as well. What did the doctor say? Muscle loss and chronic fatigue may be caused by something else. I would check adrenal hormones and thyroid hormones.

It's gloomy that doctor said the hospital only do the six items testing, they cannot do the bioavailable testosterone level testing...

Do you still have morning erections? Have you noticed any changes in erection strength? Increased refraction period?

After quit the finasteride, sometimes I have morning erections, but the strength is very weak. Also the the refraction period is increased. It seem I even can not get my dick erectie without the sexy Japanese movie.

Your estrogen level is within range, but it's high. The sexual side effects from Propecia are caused by increased estrogen level, and if this is the case, you need to use an aromatase inhibitor to correct the hormone ratios, if it doesn't solve itself within 2 - 3 weeks - or else you risk developing secondary hypogonadism.

Currently I have quit finasteride about three weeks, i daily take MACA(500mg) and l-arginine(3000mg), but it seems the sides effects do not wear off, am I need add ZINC also? When i need add ARIMIDEX?

Thanks a lot!

 

[rsmith]

I find it hard to believe that you'd have noticeable muscle wasting in merely a week. If you did, then I have my doubts that it had anything to do with finasteride.

I notice the weight loss (not sure if it is muscle wasting) from March. At June it weigh myself and found I have loss 10kg weight compared Feb.

 

[Ende]

Your total testosterone level is high. You should check the bioavailable level as well. What did the doctor say? Muscle loss and chronic fatigue may be caused by something else. I would check adrenal hormones and thyroid hormones.

It's gloomy that doctor said the hospital only do the six items testing, they cannot do the bioavailable testosterone level testing...

Yes they can, it's calculated from total testosterone, SHBG and albumin.

Do you still have morning erections? Have you noticed any changes in erection strength? Increased refraction period?

After quit the finasteride, sometimes I have morning erections, but the strength is very weak. Also the the refraction period is increased. It seem I even can not get my dick erectie without the sexy Japanese movie.

Your estrogen level has increased if your morning erections are weaker. Increased refraction period means that your prolactin level has increased as well. This affects your libido negatively too, and it will be harder to get an erection, and sustain it. Your prolactin looks alright on paper, but you may use 0.25 cabergoline twice a week for a week to take care of it. Get on zinc picolinate as soon as possible, if you took the last Propecia pill 3 weeks ago. Use 50 mg once a day before bed. It works as an aromatase inhibitor. Quit treatment immediately when you get a solid morning erection. Don't use Arimidex.

 

[rsmith]

Thank you. Today I ordered the zinc picolinate will get it soon.

It seems my semen is very little and difficult to create after get side effects, I ever tried to ejaculate one time some day ago and then I am very tired in the following days. Do you know which hormone is unbalance cause the semen to difficult to compose?

Besides, After get side effects, my stool became very dry and hard and the style like sheep's stool, I drinked alot of water, also ate many banana, but there is no improve. does it indicate something?

 

[Ende]

It seems my semen is very little and difficult to create after get side effects, I ever tried to ejaculate one time some day ago and then I am very tired in the following days. Do you know which hormone is unbalance cause the semen to difficult to compose?

DHT deficiency.

Besides, After get side effects, my stool became very dry and hard and the style like sheep's stool, I drinked alot of water, also ate many banana, but there is no improve. does it indicate something?

I have no idea. You should talk to a doctor.

 

[rsmith]

Thank you for your prompt reply.

Any ideas for the chronic fatigue, may cause by low cortisol levels OR thyroid levels?

 

[Ende]

Yes... it may be caused by adrenal- or thyroid hormones... you need to consult a doctor and do another blood test...

 

[Timi]

Your total testosterone level is high. You should check the bioavailable level as well. What did the doctor say? Muscle loss and chronic fatigue may be caused by something else. I would check adrenal hormones and thyroid hormones.

It's gloomy that doctor said the hospital only do the six items testing, they cannot do the bioavailable testosterone level testing...

Yes they can, it's calculated from total testosterone, SHBG and albumin.

Do you still have morning erections? Have you noticed any changes in erection strength? Increased refraction period?

After quit the finasteride, sometimes I have morning erections, but the strength is very weak. Also the the refraction period is increased. It seem I even can not get my dick erectie without the sexy Japanese movie.

Your estrogen level has increased if your morning erections are weaker. Increased refraction period means that your prolactin level has increased as well. This affects your libido negatively too, and it will be harder to get an erection, and sustain it. Your prolactin looks alright on paper, but you may use 0.25 cabergoline twice a week for a week to take care of it. Get on zinc picolinate as soon as possible, if you took the last Propecia pill 3 weeks ago. Use 50 mg once a day before bed. It works as an aromatase inhibitor. Quit treatment immediately when you get a solid morning erection. Don't use Arimidex.

Enden

and why not Arimidex?

 

[Ende]

Because the drug is very potent. Too low estrogen level causes a lot of problems as well, like loss of morning erections and libido, and it'll give you ED, or make you impotent.

 

[Timi]

better 50mg Zink?

 

[Ende]

Hm? 100 mcg Arimidex (1/10 of a tablet) is more potent than 50 mg zinc, according to my experience.

 

[Timi]

i have Femara 2,5mg Tabletts
0,5 2x in the week??

why take you not minoxidil?
and why not Finasterid?

Timi

 

[Ende]

No, I won't recommend Femara. It's a potent prescription AI too.

Why do you want to use an AI anyway? Your dick works, doesn't it? Messing around with a potent AI, could easily lead to loss of libido and ED/impotence.

Rogaine is sh*t, and Propecia fucked me up really bad.

 

[Timi]

i had all the Years no Problem with finasteride
than minoxidil and Betablocker and my Libido is Zero

i think finasteride is no the Problem!
more the Betablocker!
i have take other Bloodpressure Drugs
but the same sh*t

Timi

 

[Ende]

If that's the case, there is no point in using an AI... It would probably make it hell of a lot worse.

 

[Ende]

You should do a blood test, and post the numbers in a new thread. Check LH, FSH, testosterone (total and free), estrogen, prolactin and SHBG.