Frontal Balding: A Realistic View of the Available Options

Bryan

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Gene_Fighter said:
It's like people who claim that certain products such as spironolactone or others are not FDA approved simply because their parent companies can't afford to have them clinically proven. That's a joke. If a company knows that their product works they will have it tested and proven because they know that their sales would sky-rocket if they had a product that was clinically proven to fight hairloss. Having it tested and proven would be a drop-in-the-bucket investment compared to the sales they would make.

I think you're very naive. The patent protection for spironolactone has long-since expired, so no company is going to spend enormous amounts of money to get that extra indication approved by the FDA, only to have other producers of the drug take advantage of it.
 

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I dont think there is anything out there atm for us front baldies, I guess even when reading these forums many years ago I just didnt bother with any meds and let it happen naturally but guess that was my biggest mistake since ive lost quite a bit but would never really know now !

I think taking the big 3 past 1.5 years and only seeing small hairs that arent even active of there isnt by any means a success. I think ill stick with the big 3 and if nothings happen in another years time ill stick with finasteride/

I think we will have to wait another 5-10 years for hair cloning or better.
 

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True theres always hope thats why I wont just quit my big 3 just yet maybe in another year or 2 time, and even then may just stick to what I think is helping ie the finasteride+nizoral shampoo but will see.

I may look at the alternatives but as most here have said us front loss baldies seem to be on an impossible mission from the start with very little hope.
 

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monty1978 said:
Not saying I disagree with the last post re efficacy of spironolactone but f*ck FDA approval. :whistle:

Alright, well then enjoy your snake oil :)

There are thousands of hair loss products out there today, and yet only 2 have been FDA approved. Why do you think that is?
 

Bryan

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Gene_Fighter said:
monty1978 said:
Not saying I disagree with the last post re efficacy of spironolactone but f*ck FDA approval. :whistle:

Alright, well then enjoy your snake oil :)

Are you aware that there are published medical journal studies showing the efficacy of topical spironolactone?

Gene_Fighter said:
There are thousands of hair loss products out there today, and yet only 2 have been FDA approved. Why do you think that is?

They don't have the enormous amounts of money available to get FDA approval.
 

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This is somewhat related, so I didn't want to start a new thread...
Anyways, has anyone with diffuse thinning all over the scalp (including the hairline area) had success with Propecia in the hairline?
And for those with diffuse thinning who didn't have success in the hairline, did it continue to diffuse there? Or did it recede?
 

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Bryan said:
Are you aware that there are published medical journal studies showing the efficacy of topical spironolactone?
Nope, never seen one that had any realy validity behind it. The only ones I've seen were published by company doctors. If you follow the paper trail, the doctors were hired by the sponsors of the hairloss product itself. Slight conflict of interest?

Bryan said:
They don't have the enormous amounts of money available to get FDA approval.

Like I've already explained, money really doesn't have anything to do with it. It's an investment. If they know that their product works, they will spend the money to have it FDA approved, because they know they will make a huge profit over that investment.

Anyway this thread is de-evolving into redundant bickering. I think I've had my say on the subject of frontal balding. If you all do your homework I think you'll agree with me, in the end. Not to say that you haven't looked around already, but I think perhaps you're searching selectively.

litcII said:
Anyways, has anyone with diffuse thinning all over the scalp (including the hairline area) had success with Propecia in the hairline?

Yes, diffuse thinners often experience some regrowth/thickening on the hairline. That's because they aren't receding to begin with; their hair is just filling in.
 

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Gene_Fighter said:
Bryan said:
Are you aware that there are published medical journal studies showing the efficacy of topical spironolactone?
Nope, never seen one that had any realy validity behind it. The only ones I've seen were published by company doctors. If you follow the paper trail, the doctors were hired by the sponsors of the hairloss product itself. Slight conflict of interest?

I don't care as much about something you may have seen that was sponsored by a company that was selling a product. Here's a scan of a topical spironolactone study that was published in a medical journal:

http://www.geocities.com/bryan50001/spiro2.htm

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Bryan said:
They don't have the enormous amounts of money available to get FDA approval.

Like I've already explained, money really doesn't have anything to do with it. It's an investment. If they know that their product works, they will spend the money to have it FDA approved, because they know they will make a huge profit over that investment.

You're astonishingly naive on this subject. You're unaware of the VAST amounts of money required to get FDA approval for something like that. We're talking about HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. No company in its right mind is going to unload that much money, when there's no possibility of patent protection afterwards. Any other company could start selling such a product, too, after the first company spent that huge amount of money. It would be sheer insanity for any company to waste that much money on FDA approval.
 
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