Free stuff for Bryan, OB, Doctor, & MB

[CCS]

Free shipping (because I don't trust this stuff and would like to save you guys money instead of throw it out)

For Bryan: Prox-N (in shrink wrap)
For Old Baldy: lef.org Regrowth Shampoo (only used it 3x)
For Docjo77: 40 vials of Eucapil
For Micheal Berry: Aveda Pure Abundance Shampoo and two Loreal Shampoos (all three like new)

That's who gets first pick of what. Trade if you want. I'll mail them to you when you guys have agreed who wants what. If something is not claimed by Tuesday, the others get pic of it.

I also have Propylene Glycol, and technical grade oleic acid, DMSO, and Octyl Salicylate in large quantities and would be willing to send you guys 16oz of PG and 16oz of oleic acid and smaller amounts of DMSO and octyl salicylate. Let me know and I'll include the stuff in the box.

 

[CCS]

Blaze just offered to buy the http://www.drproctor.com Prox-N from me, but I'd rather give it to Bryan. I know he is on a budget since he spends his money on study articles, which can cost $25-40 each. But if none of these guys claim the stuff by Wednesday, I may take Blazes offer.
I also want anyone receiving this stuff to post in this thread that they got it, just so people don't think I'm BSing that I don't believe in the products.

 

[ShedMaster]

i want the aveida!

 

[CCS]

i want the aveida!

you can have it if they don't claim it by 8pm Tuesday. I'll also look for posts by them. They might not be logged on, so I may have to extend the deadline till I see some of their posts around here. If I send it to you, I want $5 shipping by paypal. Only those 4 get free shipping.

 

[ShedMaster]

no problemo

 

[ripple-effect]

Did none of those products work for you CCS?

 

[CCS]

who knows. I've been on finasteride this whole time. I saw results when I added minoxidil, but gave up for a while because I did not like the greasy look. Now I'm trying it again. I've not seen any difference with Regrowth Shampoo, Prox-N, or Eucapil, though I used them only 4 months each. I never did a test spot. I'm getting rid of them only because there is no research backing their effectiveness, and because there is evidence that Phenytoin, one of the ingredients Proctor promotes, may actually have androgenic activity.

 

[ShedMaster]

any takers CCS? if not, I can paypal you the $ immediately


I donated 8 bottles of liquid minoxidil to someone to a fellow HairLossTalk.com user in need several months ago, so what comes around goes around...ha


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=39305&p=359482&hilit=free#p359482

 

[CCS]

bump for Bryan et al

bumping once, bumping twice.... ....

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

hmm...ive been using the regrowth shampoo now for 6 months...i cant say for sure its regrown hair since ive also been on finasteride for the past 13 months but my hair has improved in the last month or so.

 

[Bryan]

bump for Bryan et al

bumping once, bumping twice.... ....

I'll certainly take it and put it to good use, but I'm astonished that you don't want to use it yourself!

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

bump for Bryan et al

bumping once, bumping twice.... ....

I'll certainly take it and put it to good use, but I'm astonished that you don't want to use it yourself!

he doesnt trust proctor.

 

[CCS]

bump for Bryan et al

bumping once, bumping twice.... ....

I'll certainly take it and put it to good use, but I'm astonished that you don't want to use it yourself!

would you pm me your address again? I don't want to dig through the mess in my room to find it.

I don't want to double the cost of my regimen (currently $30 per month) to add something as speculative as Prox-N. I also have a large area to cover, and lots of grafts on it, which make Prox-N impractical. I'd rather slather on a mixture of very cheap extracts which have many studies backing them up.

As for NANO shampoo, it is affordable, but it has no studies backing it. After seeing the topical Keto results, I'd much rather use Nizoral more often, instead of skipping any nizoral doses to use NANO. My brother feels the same way and declined my free NANO offer. I'm convinced Nizoral has thickened my hair, and it has been since I've been using it at least EOD.

HTGO, according to Felk, NANO shampoo also coats your hair to make it look thicker. I guess that is just as good as regrowing it. But I don't think Nizoral even does that.

The only think I think I might be missing out on is the panthenol in the NANO. I'm not sure how much my ginger shampoo has in it, but Nizoral does not have any. Does panthenol grow hair?

 

[CCS]

I just PMed the others. I'll give them more time.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

bump for Bryan et al

bumping once, bumping twice.... ....

I'll certainly take it and put it to good use, but I'm astonished that you don't want to use it yourself!

would you pm me your address again? I don't want to dig through the mess in my room to find it.

I don't want to double the cost of my regimen (currently $30 per month) to add something as speculative as Prox-N. I also have a large area to cover, and lots of grafts on it, which make Prox-N impractical. I'd rather slather on a mixture of very cheap extracts which have many studies backing them up.

As for NANO shampoo, it is affordable, but it has no studies backing it. After seeing the topical Keto results, I'd much rather use Nizoral more often, instead of skipping any nizoral doses to use NANO. My brother feels the same way and declined my free NANO offer. I'm convinced Nizoral has thickened my hair, and it has been since I've been using it at least EOD.

HTGO, according to Felk, NANO shampoo also coats your hair to make it look thicker. I guess that is just as good as regrowing it. But I don't think Nizoral even does that.

The only think I think I might be missing out on is the panthenol in the NANO. I'm not sure how much my ginger shampoo has in it, but Nizoral does not have any. Does panthenol grow hair?

the shampoo also has a copper peptide and Polysorbate 60 and Polysorbate 80 which are all beneficial to hair....whether it coats the hair or not...ive been using it for 6 months and just recently have i noticed the thickening...even my barber and a friend (who is also suffers from hair loss) commented on it....im gonna keep using it 3-4x a week...1 bottle has lasted me 6 months and its STILL not empty.

btw, you should know that more nizoral doesnt necessarily mean better results...its likely that just like with minoxidil your scalp reaches a "saturation" level. using it 7x a week will most likely not yield you any better results than using it 3-4x a week.

 

[CCS]

Well I'm definitely sending the Prox-N to Bryan. I see no point in keeping something I can't afford to use indefinitely, when most of it will end up on my hair shafts. For the same reason I'm sending the rest of my RU to my brother so he can test it out. No point in each of us testing it only 4 month, when he can do an 8 month test.

I definitely don't want the Eucapil. I think their study was stupid. I don't want to throw it away though. I wish MB would test it on his foot, but I know he probably only likes to test cheap natural stuff.

My main reason for not using Aveda is I don't want to replace even one Nizoral day with it. Also, it has to be used often for a while to gradually build up the shaft. I also wonder if thickening the shaft down to the root, without making the canal bigger, would reduce absorption of other topicals.

HTGT says Regrowth shampoo helps him. But he also has been using Propecia exactly 13 months. People commented on my denser hair a year into my finasteride use too. I just don't know of any NANO studies, and am worried because DrP also thinks Phenytoin is good. If he messed that up, I don't trust his NANO studies. It has SOD in it, but I have SOD pills I can dump in one of my shampoos. I just wish Nizoral had Panthenol in it, since maybe that is good. Maybe I'll add SOD and minoxidil and rosemary to a good panthenol shampoo and use that on the same day as Nizoral, 6 hours before, since it could increase absorption of topicals afterwards.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

you can pre wash with the aveda and then use nizoral.

 

[CCS]

I'm thinking about it. Amazing how I'll wait 3 months for minoxidil results, but won't wait 1 week for sunless tanner results or thickening shampoo results. I still am worried about it clogging the hair cannal and preventing topicals from getting absorbed.

Maybe I can try applying it to the hair shaft, and not get it on the scalp.

 

[CCS]

I'm just afraid to use NANO since I can find no studies on it even on Proctor's site, and I think if something grows body hair, Proctor will probably put it in his concoction.

Maybe Phenytoin is like minoxidil, and grows hair everywhere, but also stimulates the androgen receptor. Maybe the alopecia side effect takes years of use to see. I wish I had more info. But it does say the hair growth is permenant. Either that is very good, or it means it is androgenically caused, since androgens tend to have permenant results, at least in the abscence of increased estrogen levels.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I'm just afraid to use NANO since I can find no studies on it even on Proctor's site, and I think if something grows body hair, Proctor will probably put it in his concoction.

Maybe Phenytoin is like minoxidil, and grows hair everywhere, but also stimulates the androgen receptor. Maybe the alopecia side effect takes years of use to see. I wish I had more info. But it does say the hair growth is permenant. Either that is very good, or it means it is androgenically caused, since androgens tend to have permenant results, at least in the abscence of increased estrogen levels.

like i said...ive been using it since march...and i have nothing bad to say about it....my hair looks better now then before i started it thats for sure....there is nothing in nano shampoo the is a stimulant of the androgen receptor....nano is a compound very similar to minoxidil...they are both nitric oxides....other than that all it has is an SOD...i see nothing harmful in it.