I did more research. Some guys with normal testosterone took Clomid and had before and after blood tests and posted them on body building forums. The results were not the same as the old men with low testosterone levels.
They healthy young men increased testosterone levels by only 30%, and doubled estrogen, and got very high LH levels. Libido went up, as did workout results, but so did plenty of acne. So I don't think a Clomid is worth it.
From what I've read, all steroid users get ball shrinkage, and they just live with it for many weeks until they are ready to come off their cycle and do PCT.
Some say low dose testosterone is the safest, but even that has plenty of side effects.
Deca Durbolin is considered the safest steroid for the punch, since it is 50% as anabolic as test, and aromatizes 20% as much as test, and does not turn to DHT. It is very low in many side effects such as acne and hair loss. The downsides are still many:
1. You can test positive typically for a year, but upwards of 1.5 years.
2. It mimics progesterone, and can shut down your testes by negative feedback.
3. Even though it is not estrogenic, it can still cause gyno because progesterone is just as responsible for gyno as estrogen is, especially at this dose.
I wonder if there are any progesterone receptor blockers that can be taken with it.
Also, Deca Durbolin, like most steroids, increases your blood pressure and worsens your cholesterol numbers.
I talked to a big proponent of Deca Durbolin. But even he said if I use it I will gain 15 pounds of muscle in 2 months, lose at least 1/4 in the next month, and lose the rest within 6 months. He said you can't keep that much muscle on your own without the gear. He also said once you see that muscle and how good it looks, and you watch it fade, you will be addicted and want to do it more, not only to look good again, but to get even bigger.
If you stay on the gear, your lipids and blood pressure will be bad year around, and everything will go up and down up and down and hopefully not get ruined. Some even said when you stimulate your muscle androgen receptors that much, they get desensitized and reduce how much you can grow naturally afterward.
But a big issue is your muscles grow faster than your tendons do. You can get injured more easily, and your muscle is just show. If you really put to the test, your tendons can break.
I'm not as muscular as I'd like, but I bet my hormones are very good right now, probably about average or slightly above. I've been told that at my size and strength I still have plenty of potential even without using stuff. So I don't think it is worth it for me right now to get into any of this.
