Dutasteride After Finasteride: Does It Work Better?

razzmatazz91

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I've been on finasteride for over 20 months. No improvement, but it seems to have slowed down the hair loss.

Is getting on dutasteride going to make things better as far is regrowth/thickening of vellus hair is concerned?
Anyone here with experience on this?
 

real kombo

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I've been on finasteride for over 20 months. No improvement, but it seems to have slowed down the hair loss.

Is getting on dutasteride going to make things better as far is regrowth/thickening of vellus hair is concerned?
Anyone here with experience on this?


In theory, and on paper, dutasteride SHOULD be more effective than finasteride because it blocks more DHT.


However, the anecdotal documentation on dutasteride has been horrible. Many people complain about massive sheds that destroy their hairline.


The thing is, people are stupid so if they see a shed from a new treatment they convince themselves that somehow the treatment is making their hair WORSE and they stop early.

Still, there have been some success stories on here with dutasteride.


There are a few theories that I have on dutasteride.


1. Despite being used by many people on here, a final verdict on it's effectivenss CAN NOT be made, because it is unclear whether or not the massive sheds people experience is because the drug is actually WORKING ( sheds happen on finasteride too, it's normal ) because people quit too early.


One theory that's been popular is that excess testosterone can be harmful to hair, and since dutasteride raises testosterone, it accelerates hairloss.



I consider this idea to be nonsense because finasteride also raises testosterone, and the overwhelming majority of individuals who use it see success with it.



Here's a 2nd theory I have that I believe is far more realistic:


Many of the people who do try dutasteride tend to switch over from finasteride. They foolishly believe that at the point of transition that there is no point in taking the finasteride any longer, since dutasteride should do everything finasteride can and more. So they stop the finasteride immediately.


So now this person has lost the built up benifets on finasteride which now dht will attack his follicles PLUS a dutasteride shed as the pill takes months to work. The end result is follicular suicide. Any comeback they could have made from this goes down the drain when they stop taking the dutasteride prematurely.


Again, this is not fact, just my own take on it.



So should you take dutasteride? It's all about how much you have to gain and how much you have to lose. If you have lost the bulk of your hair and have little more to lose, I say go for it ***BUT*** do not stop finasteride right away, I'd reccomend a careful and lengthy transition and wait 10 months to a year before judging results. Also, make sure you're using genuine avodart, not the crap these guys buy online from 3rd world countries where they have no idea what they'r actually taking.


If you decide to do it, keep me up to date with your progress please.
 

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That's exactly what I'm doing right now, a transition. Ten days of a loading dose of duta. After one month of taking both drugs, I'll stop finasteride.
 

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That's exactly what I'm doing right now, a transition. Ten days of a loading dose of duta. After one month of taking both drugs, I'll stop finasteride.


Personally, if you can afford it I'd wait a MINIMUM of 6 months, 10-12 being ideal.
 

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That's exactly what I'm doing right now, a transition. Ten days of a loading dose of duta. After one month of taking both drugs, I'll stop finasteride.

There is not need to take both, especially if you make a loading dose. 1 pill every day inihbit 80/90% dht, it is written in the leaflet.

There is a study of better results adding only 1 pill of duta a week to finasteride daily..you can imagine taking it everyday..

However, duta have more side effects and a very long half life (5weeks, finas is only 6/8hours), so if you will have a problem like an allergic reaction, gyno, loss libido ecc this will persist several months after discontinued the drug
 

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There is not need to take both, especially if you make a loading dose. 1 pill every day inihbit 80/90% dht, it is written in the leaflet.

There is a study of better results adding only 1 pill of duta a week to finasteride daily..you can imagine taking it everyday..

However, duta have more side effects and a very long half life (5weeks, finas is only 6/8hours), so if you will have a problem like an allergic reaction, gyno, loss libido ecc this will persist several months after discontinued the drug

But I have seen a study showing that dutasteride takes one month to reach its full potential of inhibiting the DHT. That's why I decided to wait one month to stop finasteride.
 

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No, to reach full potential inihbition of dht ( steady state ) takes 5 half life (6 months) if you take 1 pill everyday.
If you do the loading dose it will take a lot of less time, i dont remember how much
 

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In theory, and on paper, dutasteride SHOULD be more effective than finasteride because it blocks more DHT.


However, the anecdotal documentation on dutasteride has been horrible. Many people complain about massive sheds that destroy their hairline.


The thing is, people are stupid so if they see a shed from a new treatment they convince themselves that somehow the treatment is making their hair WORSE and they stop early.

Still, there have been some success stories on here with dutasteride.


There are a few theories that I have on dutasteride.


1. Despite being used by many people on here, a final verdict on it's effectivenss CAN NOT be made, because it is unclear whether or not the massive sheds people experience is because the drug is actually WORKING ( sheds happen on finasteride too, it's normal ) because people quit too early.


One theory that's been popular is that excess testosterone can be harmful to hair, and since dutasteride raises testosterone, it accelerates hairloss.



I consider this idea to be nonsense because finasteride also raises testosterone, and the overwhelming majority of individuals who use it see success with it.



Here's a 2nd theory I have that I believe is far more realistic:


Many of the people who do try dutasteride tend to switch over from finasteride. They foolishly believe that at the point of transition that there is no point in taking the finasteride any longer, since dutasteride should do everything finasteride can and more. So they stop the finasteride immediately.


So now this person has lost the built up benifets on finasteride which now dht will attack his follicles PLUS a dutasteride shed as the pill takes months to work. The end result is follicular suicide. Any comeback they could have made from this goes down the drain when they stop taking the dutasteride prematurely.


Again, this is not fact, just my own take on it.



So should you take dutasteride? It's all about how much you have to gain and how much you have to lose. If you have lost the bulk of your hair and have little more to lose, I say go for it ***BUT*** do not stop finasteride right away, I'd reccomend a careful and lengthy transition and wait 10 months to a year before judging results. Also, make sure you're using genuine avodart, not the crap these guys buy online from 3rd world countries where they have no idea what they'r actually taking.


If you decide to do it, keep me up to date with your progress please.
It's a bit disingenuous to suggest that these drugs "raise" testosterone, yes they raise it marginally, however, DHT is essentially a much more potent version of testosterone, and so if you lose 70% of your DHT, that has a similar effect to losing most of your T.

Approximately 5% of your testosterone is converted into DHT, so because finasteride blocks that process, that's why it "raises" testosterone, only indirectly.
 

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Thanks for the inputs. Anyone with experience with both drugs here?

If finasteride maintains, can dutasteride regrow?

Also.... Does anyone in India prescribe this stuff?
 

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Also.... Does anyone in India prescribe this stuff?[/QUOTE]


Really? India has over a billion people xD
 

razzmatazz91

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Also.... Does anyone in India prescribe this stuff?


Really? India has over a billion people xD[/QUOTE]
Yeah...
Guess how many are doctors? And how many are even half-decent.

The first doctor I met around three years ago told me finasteride would kill my dick and grow boobies. And this guy was one of the best in the city.
If it wasn't for that f****r, i'd have had hair today.
 
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