diffuse loss = less chance of recovery using finasteride?

[mark16v]

is this true? bit of a blow for me if it is :roll: as seems like the best hope. i'm not prepared to mess with minoxidil, or anything else really

from what i've read finasteride is better for recoving recession loss than defuse loss, is this the case??

 

[WithTheLidOff]

ive heard the exact opposite...that finasteride does not work for a receeding hairline. Its safe to say that whatever one person posts on here, another person will refute it. Quite often studies will back up both cases.
Look at your appearance and decide what youre willing to go through to change it and how important it is to you. In my case (diffuse) treatments have worked very well and i am considerably happier. The only way ot know if somethig nwill work ofr you is if you try it.

Good luck

 

[mark16v]

I know that if I don't treat it, well i'm worried - that the first signs of me thinning will turn into something else, I'm vain, it horrifies me to be honest.

I'm definately starting on finasteride in 2 weeks time, and will get some of that Nizoral stuff, and also take multivitamins with my finasteride as that is probably good for you if your diet isn't too hot.

Thanks for helping.

 

[WithTheLidOff]

?? if you notice that you START to thin??...damn...what if youre not even ggoing to go bald until your like 40? Maybe start propecia once you actually start thinning for SURE. Im pretty sure that it loses its efficacy..and you wouldnt want that to happen when your in a time in your life when your maintaining your hair anyways. Its a good treatment..but ..how old are you anyways??

 

[mark16v]

Yeah I have thought about this one too, I guess I am paranoid about it (would like ugly without the hair!)

I'm 26 in a couple of months, in the past maybe 3 years I have thinned about (this is an inaccurate wild guess!) 30%, from having a very thick head of hear.

I still have complete coverage, but my parting line has just stared to widen a little at the front and looks whiter, also on my parting there is a patch of hair that it only about an inch tall? the rest is very long. My hair has always been a bit diffuse at the very front, but cause this has happened it looks like i'm thinning over my parting unless I put a bit of cream on to hold it down in place better, give it some weight.

my overall scalp is a bit diffused. my parents have this at 50, worse than me but are not bald. My dad has quite a bit of thinning at the back now (he is mid 50's) both grandads we're bald as.

anyway, maybe I should wait some time before I start then, untill it gets worse.

some people say start it now! get it right where it starts cause it's harder to sort things out once you loose coverage, some people like this instance are saying start later and you'll have more years. I hear people saying that's how I started, by diffusing all over the scalp then bam.

some people say it looses it's efficiency, some people say there's no proof of that.

oh well, I don't know if I should start it or not. maybe I'll take some photo's for my reference now and wait a year, compare and decide then.

do some people diffuse and never go bald?

 

[WithTheLidOff]

it MUST lose its effectiveness otherwise....no one would be bald (if they DID benefit from it.) Also..it IOS possible to difuse and not go totally bald...look around at some of the older men you know..maybe your dads friends...havent they had the same kind of difused hair for YEARS?
Youre lucky..my dad was nw7 by the time he was 30.
best of luck!!

 

[mark16v]

thanks mate

ahh crap.

in the past year I've .. well i'm getting divorced, had my wife take out 1 year old out of the country and away from with promising she'd come back, she didn't come back so I have made a big move to canada, luckily I have a job sorted working from home and can see my daughter, but me and the wife are splitting.

anyway, this has left me really stressed and down at some points I was pacing around chain smoking with a lot on my mind, more stressed / upset than i've ever been.

maybe that's the cause of my slight hair loss even, I havn't lost much just a bit of diffusion but I don't need that on top of my situation

i'm feeling better now, not happy in canada (moved from uk) but am still alive and doing ok, making friends etc.

maybe this, maybe that, whatever. I think i'll give it another six months and analyze there. see what happens! maybe sometime they will produce amazing maintenance free hair systems so we don't have to worry about all this crap so much.

 

[silkeysmooth]

It doesn't necessarily lose its effectiveness. It still reduces the amount of DHT, but some DHT is still being produced, and thus can get to the follicles. It's ridiculous to say that it isn't effective after a set amount of time.

 

[Cornholio]

http://www.propecia.com/finasteride/pro ... veness.jsp

this propecia advertising clearly shows just how finasteride is working for most people at 5 years compared to where they would be without treatment... 2/3 (but not all) of people have higher hair count at 5 year in the area studied than they did at the start of the study. Its effects may be decreasing a little compared to its peak effectiveness at 2 years, but without it things would be worse for most people.

 

[Bryan]

Cornholio, you're absolutely correct!

I've said this many times before, and I'll keep on saying it until everybody groks it: the 5-year study of finasteride clearly shows that the DIFFERENCE in haircounts between Propecia users and non-Propecia users continues to INCREASE after the first two years, not DECREASE. Is everybody clear what that means?? It means that even though haircounts decline a little (on average) from their peak at the 1-year point in finasteride users, it doesn't "stop working" after that. After 5 years, the placebo group haircounts are MUCH WORSE than the ones who got the active drug during that period of time.

To put it very succinctly: finasteride at the very least GREATLY SLOWS DOWN hairloss.

Bryan

 

[Old Baldy]

Cornholio, you're absolutely correct!

I've said this many times before, and I'll keep on saying it until everybody groks it: the 5-year study of finasteride clearly shows that the DIFFERENCE in haircounts between Propecia users and non-Propecia users continues to INCREASE after the first two years, not DECREASE. Is everybody clear what that means?? It means that even though haircounts decline a little (on average) from their peak at the 1-year point in finasteride users, it doesn't "stop working" after that. After 5 years, the placebo group haircounts are MUCH WORSE than the ones who got the active drug during that period of time.

To put it very succinctly: finasteride at the very least GREATLY SLOWS DOWN hairloss.

Bryan

I understand Bryan! (I think) :lol:

 

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[stax]

Question: Why do haircounts decrease after 5 years from when peak haircounts were seen at 2 years on the drug. Shouldn't our haircounnt stay the same when they peak at 2 years instead of decreasing after 5? Doesnt this mean the drug loses it's effectivness? I mean does everybody's hair become more sensative to DHT after this time period. This cant be true for all cases can it? How the hell do we stop hairloss dead in its tracks? Screw this slowing down sh*t how do we kill it?